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    What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 9:26 PM EDT

    I don't know why this guys bugs me so much...but he is STILL on the PUP list.

    He has yet to get on the field. To quote the Tuna: "You can't make the club from the tub."

    Will someone light a fire under his a s s?
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 9:29 PM EDT

    in my mind it would be 75/25 ,75% he stays 25% he goes

     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 9:45 PM EDT

    He's not the only one, Pryor has been hurt most of his career, Edelman. He played pretty good when he was in there last year, he's too cheap to cut at this point, if he had Warren's contract he'd be gone.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 9:52 PM EDT


    Interesting thread from the perspective that the Pats org is always secret about injury.  Currently we have a number of players that have "promise" but have been less than healthy more often than not.   Brace obviously being one.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 9:55 PM EDT

    In Response to What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    I don't know why this guys bugs me so much...but he is STILL on the PUP list. He has yet to get on the field. To quote the Tuna: "You can't make the club from the tub." Will someone light a fire under his a s s?
    Posted by pats-fan-2007


    Couldnt agree more about this guy. Iv never seen someone that big get pushed around so much. Him always seems out of shape , maybe because hes always hurt. If he cant see whats going on with this club , then he shouldnt be here. Nobody is going to hold his hand while we have so much depth and talent everywhere on this team. Everyone from the players/coaching staff to the fan-base is absolutely hungry to kick some a s s and get back on top. He'll get on the train or get left behind. I tend to think they'll keep him around just because of where we drafted him.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 10:39 PM EDT

    I'd say zero chance he gets cut. He's recovering from elbow surgery but played well last year prior to his injury.

    Anything is possible but i can't see it at this point.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 10:49 PM EDT

    Don't think he gets cut this year, but he better contribute or he's likely not back next.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 10:55 PM EDT

    Brace was starting to play some really good football before he was injured last year. The team may just be wanting to take it easy with him, so let's give the guy some slack.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 11:29 PM EDT

    He probably bugs you so much because he is a 2nd round pick, 40th taken overall, and he sucks, when he can actually get on the field that is.


    Probably won't be cut. It looks bad to $hitcan a 2nd rounder this soon.

    A move like that could shake the confidence of the kool-aide drinkers. Better to let him hang around a while more and have the faithful exaggerate his contributions so Hoodie doesn't look so bad.

    What was his name again, Marquise Brace, or was it Ron Hill?
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/2/2011 11:44 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    Brace was starting to play some really good football before he was injured last year. The team may just be wanting to take it easy with him, so let's give the guy some slack.
    Posted by NY-PATS-FAN4


    Have to agree with this.  He was really coming along nicely and while I'm sure it's frustrating for BB, I'm also pretty sure he will get another chance.  If he gets a major injury this year or doesn't keep moving forward, I would think this will be his last chance though.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 12:59 AM EDT

    ZERO chance he gets cut....ZERO
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 8:26 AM EDT

    He'll amount to Squat, cut him.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 8:30 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    He probably bugs you so much because he is a 2nd round pick, 40th taken overall, and he sucks, when he can actually get on the field that is. Probably won't be cut. It looks bad to $hitcan a 2nd rounder this soon. A move like that could shake the confidence of the kool-aide drinkers. Better to let him hang around a while more and have the faithful exaggerate his contributions so Hoodie doesn't look so bad. What was his name again, Marquise Brace, or was it Ron Hill?
    Posted by BabeParilli



    Brutal honesty and fully appreciated.  He doesnt find a way on the field, he'll end up cut.  Plain and simple. 
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 9:33 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut? : Brutal honesty and fully appreciated.  He doesnt find a way on the field, he'll end up cut.  Plain and simple. 
    Posted by TuckItOnce


    Brutal honesty yet not really factual. Like BB has never walked away from a high draft pick?  Chad Jackson and Kevin O'Connell ring a bell?  How about Terrence Wheatly?  Derrick Burgess, who was picked up for two draft picks, was cut free.  BB has never been afraid to move on from mistakes.  Granted, Brace needs to pick it up but when he has played he looked pretty good as a run stuffer.  Funny how some people have opinions based on misinformation.     
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 10:15 AM EDT

    Wild guess, 10% chance.

    Potential:  before the draft he was described as a human avalanche by one scout.  For what he does, 3rd and 1 stands, goal line stands, you can't buy this kind of push.

    I accept that he was playing well before his latest injury.

    Problems:  If it's his elbow, that will heal and he can still push.  It would be more serious if it was his a@s.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 11:08 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut? : Brutal honesty yet not really factual. Like BB has never walked away from a high draft pick?  Chad Jackson and Kevin O'Connell ring a bell?  How about Terrence Wheatly?  Derrick Burgess, who was picked up for two draft picks, was cut free.  BB has never been afraid to move on from mistakes.  Granted, Brace needs to pick it up but when he has played he looked pretty good as a run stuffer.  Funny how some people have opinions based on misinformation.     
    Posted by CablesWyndBairn


    I am in complete agreement.  BB does what's in the best interest of the Pats, not his public image. 
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 11:18 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut? : Brutal honesty yet not really factual. Like BB has never walked away from a high draft pick?  Chad Jackson and Kevin O'Connell ring a bell?  How about Terrence Wheatly?  Derrick Burgess, who was picked up for two draft picks, was cut free.  BB has never been afraid to move on from mistakes.  Granted, Brace needs to pick it up but when he has played he looked pretty good as a run stuffer.  Funny how some people have opinions based on misinformation.     
    Posted by CablesWyndBairn


    Hey, I said right there pretty clearly in my response, if the guy doesnt find a way onto the field, he'll GET CUT.  I may have agreed with the previous poster in that Brace has basically sucked so far.  Sorry, Im setting my standards pretty high for 2nd rounders, and in 2 years, he has ZERO sacks, and very few impact plays.  But essentially, I said what YOU said.  The guy either gets his fat butt on the field and plays or gets cut.  What's the problem? 
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 11:33 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut? : Brutal honesty yet not really factual. Like BB has never walked away from a high draft pick?  Chad Jackson and Kevin O'Connell ring a bell?  How about Terrence Wheatly?  Derrick Burgess, who was picked up for two draft picks, was cut free.  BB has never been afraid to move on from mistakes.  Granted, Brace needs to pick it up but when he has played he looked pretty good as a run stuffer.  Funny how some people have opinions based on misinformation.     
    Posted by CablesWyndBairn


    Funny how Burgess cut himself free with his failure to report antic.

    Jackson sucked soooo badly keeping him would have been worse PR than ditching him.

    Wheatly was another embarassment to even put on the football field.

    It is common practice for most coaches to hang in with a high draft pick guy who absolutely sucks for at least a while because the fallout for releasing them too soon looks bad.

    Hoodie is no better than anybody else in that regard.


    And O'Connel was a 3rd rounder. Not so much a high profile gaff as a 1st or 2nd.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 11:39 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    He probably bugs you so much because he is a 2nd round pick, 40th taken overall, and he sucks, when he can actually get on the field that is. Probably won't be cut. It looks bad to $hitcan a 2nd rounder this soon. A move like that could shake the confidence of the kool-aide drinkers. Better to let him hang around a while more and have the faithful exaggerate his contributions so Hoodie doesn't look so bad. What was his name again, Marquise Brace, or was it Ron Hill?
    Posted by BabeParilli


    but wait your the guy who says BB is a great coach....and contradictingly also stated he is a great talent evaluator in being able to recognize moss, dillion hanesworth, bring them on the team and get the most out of them...


    haha.....  he will stay on pup ...which will allow pats to carry more players into the season
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 11:40 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut? : Hey, I said right there pretty clearly in my response, if the guy doesnt find a way onto the field, he'll GET CUT.  I may have agreed with the previous poster in that Brace has basically sucked so far.  Sorry, Im setting my standards pretty high for 2nd rounders, and in 2 years, he has ZERO sacks, and very few impact plays.  But essentially, I said what YOU said.  The guy either gets his fat butt on the field and plays or gets cut.  What's the problem? 
    Posted by TuckItOnce


    The point is the brutal honesty of the other guy's post is based on a false premise -- that BB is not one to indirectly own up to mistakes by cutting guys who can't fit in the system.  Jackson, Wheatley, O'Connell and Burgess are examples off the top of my head who were sent packing because they weren't preforming.  Add Adalius Thomas to the list, and maybe Darius Butler this year.  The other guy he referred to, Marquise Hill, died in an accident so we never know what he'd have become.   

    Not disagreeing with you on Brace, just pointing out that the other guy's "brutal honesty" is based on the fallacy that BB will string guys along because he's afraid of being wrong in the eyes the media and that "koolaid drinking fans" need a reason to defend him, which is 100% inaccurate.  His track record suggests that if you don't perform, whether due to injury or lack of skill, you're a goner.      
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 11:40 AM EDT

    Oh I don't know.  Bethel Johnson was another 2nd rounder BB cut.  Gotta give 'em a chance but he's not afraid to cut 'em loose if they don't work out.  As I understand it if they're not cutting the mustard by year 3 chances are they're going to be turned loose.

    And for the record, I don't think Brace has set the world on fire but to suggest that he sux is taking it a bit far.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 11:44 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    Oh I don't know.  Bethel Johnson was another 2nd rounder BB cut.  Gotta give 'em a chance but he's not afraid to cut 'em loose if they don't work out.  As I understand it if they're not cutting the mustard by year 3 chances are they're going to be turned loose. And for the record, I don't think Brace has set the world on fire but to suggest that he sux is taking it a bit far.
    Posted by ATJ


    Good point on Bethel.  And when is the last time a team cut a 3rd round QB before year two, like BB did with O'Connell?  That's owning up to a mistake despite his being "only" a 3rd rounder.  Agreed, year 3 seems to be do or die. 
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 11:50 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut? : The point is the brutal honesty of the other guy's post is based on a false premise -- that BB is not one to indirectly own up to mistakes by cutting guys who can't fit in the system.  Jackson, Wheatley, O'Connell and Burgess are examples off the top of my head who were sent packing because they weren't preforming.  Add Adalius Thomas to the list, and maybe Darius Butler this year.  The other guy he referred to, Marquise Hill, died in an accident so we never know what he'd have become.    Not disagreeing with you on Brace, just pointing out that the other guy's "brutal honesty" is based on the fallacy that BB will string guys along because he's afraid of being wrong in the eyes the media and that "koolaid drinking fans" need a reason to defend him, which is 100% inaccurate.  His track record suggests that if you don't perform, whether due to injury or lack of skill, you're a goner.      
    Posted by CablesWyndBairn



    The brutal honesty I was referencing and identifying with was the 2nd rounder sucking part.  That's it.  Its all about production.  In 2 years, he's basically done nothing.  I know he's flashed some talent in moments.  We dont draft players in the 2nd round to have 2 years worth of moments.   Im certainly hopeful whatever the latest problem in with him gets solved quick.  We need this kid to step up. 
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 12:03 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?:
    He probably bugs you so much because he is a 2nd round pick, 40th taken overall, and he sucks, when he can actually get on the field that is. Probably won't be cut. It looks bad to $hitcan a 2nd rounder this soon. A move like that could shake the confidence of the kool-aide drinkers. Better to let him hang around a while more and have the faithful exaggerate his contributions so Hoodie doesn't look so bad. What was his name again, Marquise Brace, or was it Ron Hill?
    Posted by BabeParilli


    I swear that you are related to Rex Ryan the way you fire your mouth off. You sir are nothing more than a donkey.
     

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    Re: What are the chances Ron Brace gets cut?

    posted at 8/3/2011 12:04 PM EDT

    Not an easy decision. He's still a young, developing player at a position where it typically takes time to develop and be productive. I actually think he's one of these guys who may be better on Sundays than he is in practice from Tuesday-Saturday. Thought he did some good things and remember, he was placed in I.R. very late in the season. It's an elbow injury and it might take some time.

    PUP-list him if necessary but stick with him.