Re: What can we do at Running Back?
posted at 3/20/2012 1:24 PM EDT
In Response to Re: What can we do at Running Back?
In Response to Re: What can we do at Running Back? : Here's what I would do: If Welker doesn't take a 7.5 mil per 3 year deal or a 2 year deal on the table at 9 per in guaranteed money, let him sign the tag and trade him to an NFC team that is willing give him what he wants. We'll take a 2013 1st rd pick, thanks very much. Love the guy, a classic Patriot player, but I don't want an unreasonable agent and player, like the Mankins situation, to handcuff the team moving forward. Next, go give Carolina their 2nd rd pick for Jonathan Stewart. Third, the money cleared by Welker's non-9.5 million and Matt Light's possible retirement, allows you to make one nice splash in FA. That would clear an additional 18 million dollars. People keep talking about Wimbley, so maybe that's something you look to do on defense. Don't overpay, but this further gives you some leverage in spending. Maybe you work out a deal with your buddy, Jim Schwartz and Mayhew in Detroit They could use Welker and maybe need to clear some space by parting with Cliff Avril, who wants a long term extension. Hmm. Last, target OLB (3-4) in the draft, FS and WR. Upshaw, Dennard and Sanu seem like very nice fits to me in the need spots. Maybe Joe Adams at WR in Round 3. Trade Hoyer for a 3rd or 4th rd pick as well. You increase camp competition and handle your weaker spots both in the draft and in FA/via trades.
Posted by BassFishing
Here is what I do:
With Wes, go as high as 4/32, he is worth it. If not then it is probably best to just keep him franchised. If you do trade him I agree it must be to the NFC. I doubt he gets a 1st rd pick if some team is also going to be paying him big bucks, like 5/45 or something like that. The only way he signs with us for 3 years is if we make almost 20 million of it guaranteed b/c thats what 2 years franchised would be.
Considering the franchise tag for him in 2013 is 11.4 million, some team can pick him up knowing he'd be there on a 1 year 9.6 deal or 2 years 20 deal. What is that worth? Probably a 3rd rd pick this year and a conditional '13 pick. I'd say that '13 pick is a 2nd if he is extended, a 3rd if he is tagged again (Brandon Marshall money/years/trade example) and a 4th if he reaches free agency.
Is that worth what we lose in him not being here for 1-2 years with Brady's super bowl window closing and the chemistry they have? Not to me, although it would depend on Edelman/Gonzalez and maybe a draft pick being able to make-up his 105 catches and whatever we brought in with the $ savings.
Should that be Avril? I don't see how paying a 4-3 DE 3x what Mark Anderson will make, or a few mil more than Wimbley will for slightly better production makes sense to me. If Bill's plan was to be a mostly 4-3 team then maybe... but he always wants to play a 3-4 and have multiple options. If this was Tamba Hali or LaMarr Woodley then sure.... not Avril.
I would trade pick #63 for Jonathan Stewart in a heartbeat, he'd be perfect here, even if it was only for 1 year. He's like 5 years younger than Corey Dillon when we made that move. He doens't have to be a 20 carry 1,500 yard back... just be better than BJGE and be given 16-18 rushes a game with the backs as a whole getting hand-offs in the mid 20's. Like 55% pass 45% rush is the way to go.
Stewart makes all of 1.3 million next year. You don't have to trade Welker to bring him in. Get a 3rd rd pick for Hoyer (as you said) and then you can have the room to trade for Stewart w/ 600k left over.
restructure Light (asap, or tell him to make up his mind on retirement in the next week) and you can get Wimbley or keep Anderson.
All that while keeping WW for 1-2 deep playoff runs or maybe more years depending on what type of paycut he is willing to take.
Dennard at 48 would be a good CB to safety convert... not a starting NFL CB.
Upshaw if he slips to us at 27 would be a solid pick b/c he is so strong, a winner and sound football guy overall, but the combine proved he is not an OLB, so it would be like getting Carter in his prime and force us into a 4-3 offense even more.
With Stallworth, Llloyd and (for now) Ocho here there is NO WAY I go Sanu at 31, and even if he slips to 48 the defense needs so much help WR would be a waste there. I can see Joe Adams, a kick return guy who played with Mallett at Arkansas being a 3rd rd pick, or Broyles in the 4th, putting him on the 6 wk PUP, letting him learn from Branch before taking over for him.
But please, unless its Konz or a BPA that slipped badly, I don't want to see ANY offensive players in the 1st 2 rounds.