What cost Pats the game

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    Re: What cost Pats the game

    Let's call it a TEAM loss, with help from the weather gods on behalf of Cincy, and move on.  The L in the books does not come with an explanation. 

    AGCSBill, just a fan havin' fun!!

     
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    I wonder how much the Patriots would have paid Welker and others that are gone if they could have predicted this catastrophe of a team issues... I just have felt over the years that it’s seems to always be on a discount that they want the majority of players… Foot in Mouth

     
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    In response to EastTraveler's comment:

    I wonder how much the Patriots would have paid Welker and others that are gone if they could have predicted this catastrophe of a team issues... I just have felt over the years that it’s seems to always be on a discount that they want the majority of players… Foot in Mouth




    We're 4-1 and this is catastrophic? Okay, I would hate to read what we would be called if we were 3-2.

     
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    Re: What cost Pats the game

    The Bengals cost Pats the game.

     
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    In response to ghostofjri37's comment:

    Giving up a 3rd and 15 at the Cincy 2 at the end of the 3rd Qtr. the momentum of the game changed on that play.




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    Re: What cost Pats the game

    The Offense played really bad but they always give you 1-3 frustrating, head scratching losses. Games they inexplicably lose when the win is there for the taking, seemingly.  They did it at Zona last year and Cleveland before that so let's hope this is just one of those "film room" games that BB will be able to load and up drill down into the young guys (and some of the coaches) how to win ugly.  This should help later in the season, provided they can all get on the same page and stay out of the trainers room.

    The offense was awful and the play calling was predictable and innefective.  They also didn't execute at all because there isn't anyone reliable for Brady to get the ball to when he is getting his @ss handed to him the minute he turns around or his WRs are head faking him into incompletions.  I think they really felt they would get all the good execution they needed from their twin TE executioners, Gronk and Hernandez and if they thought one of them would go rogue and the other go lame they would have shelled out the money for WES.  They're paying Collie and Amendola to try to create one working WES (WES has 7 TDs so gets his name in caps).  

    Miss WES (not near as much as TFB) and I miss seeing Hernandez running down the seam and just abusing DBs and I really miss seeing Gronk smashing through LBs to get first downs and TDs but I am still excited for what the Kung guys can bring in December, which is a vertical element that this team needs to best the top teams.  Of course it really only works when the running game is going because TFB throws his best long balls off play action passing.  You know who I really miss is Charlie. Man Charlie could call a game.  I think Mcdaniels needs to watch some of those game tapes.  He's a smart guy but he could learn a thing or two about game flow and adjustments  and setting up plays with other plays.

     
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     I think "play calling" is overrated.  Not that it's completely unimportant, but I think when plays don't work (for whatever reasons) fans think the wrong play was called.  Really, a lot of times plays don't work simply because the execution on offense isn't there or the execution on defense is.  All of the plays they ran on the goal line were good plays for that situation.  I don't see any issue with the up the gut run on first down--it just didn't work.  The fade route to the TE is a fine play . . . you can question whether Solder was the right guy for it, but they aren't exactly loaded with TEs and there was a deception element there that easily could have resulted in Solder being uncovered if the defense didn't execute.  Edelman is their most reliable receiver right now, so the throw to him in the left corner made sense too - - - but the fact that Edelmen is their most reliable receiver (and he's 4'8") is a problem in the red zone. 

     

    Trying to pound it in three straight times might have worked, but might not have.  The Cincy defense is pretty stout up the middle and our o line wasn't getting a lot of push.  Wendell is a pretty small center.  And they've had problems with snaps and fumbles too.  It's not like running is a guaranteed touchdown. 

     

     
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    I wonder how much the Patriots would have paid Welker and others that are gone if they could have predicted this catastrophe of a team issues... I just have felt over the years that it’s seems to always be on a discount that they want the majority of players… Foot in Mouth

     




    We're 4-1 and this is catastrophic? Okay, I would hate to read what we would be called if we were 3-2.

     



    Just making a statement and if Brady wasn't behind the ball the team would be 0-5... It's my opinion that this team has been held together by band-aids and simply put Tom Brady deserves better than what this team management has given him. How many years left does he have? Can they rebuild this team in time for a shot at the ultimate prize? If they are $10 million below the cap why have they not pulled in more veterans in the fold? (Same old same old) We are lucky to be 4-1 but once the playoffs are here I'm just not that optimistic...

     

     
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    I wonder how much the Patriots would have paid Welker and others that are gone if they could have predicted this catastrophe of a team issues... I just have felt over the years that it’s seems to always be on a discount that they want the majority of players… Foot in Mouth

     

     




    We're 4-1 and this is catastrophic? Okay, I would hate to read what we would be called if we were 3-2.

     

     



    Just making a statement and if Brady wasn't behind the ball the team would be 0-5... It's my opinion that this team has been held together by band-aids and simply put Tom Brady deserves better than what this team management has given him. How many years left does he have? Can they rebuild this team in time for a shot at the ultimate prize? If they are $10 million below the cap why have they not pulled in more veterans in the fold? (Same old same old) We are lucky to be 4-1 but once the playoffs are here I'm just not that optimistic...

     

     



    We've got 11 games to go before we need to start concerning ourselves about playoffs.  During those 11 games, our newest team members will gain a lot more experience and, hopefully, we will get some very important offensive pieces back on the team.  I have no reason to be pessimistic, at this point.

     
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    Re: What cost Pats the game

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    Very simple --the OFFENSIVE Line--they played their worst game in a while--I don't think they made the trip--these SPEED rushing D lines seem to always give the Pats problems--Giants and Baltimore in the playoffs?  Pats will be alright though -- Cinci coming off a horrendous game last week and Pats coming in on Back to back road games -- I think the Pats will regroup and Beat the Saints in their backyard next week  JMO

     




    Yeah it was ALL the o-line. Nothing to do with the bad play calling. The loss of the 1&2 RBs and Brady's inconsistancey at QB.

     




    Maybe you watched a different game than me but it's almost impossible to win a game when your O Line plays this poorly--Brady had guys either on him or right next to him on most plays--this O line stunk in this game--period!

     
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    Giving up a 3rd and 15 at the Cincy 2 at the end of the 3rd Qtr. the momentum of the game changed on that play.

     




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    Did you mean to say it was Aringtons fault--LOL

     
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    "Plenty of blame to go around, it seems, but the final conclusion is that everyone has to step their game up -- Brady with more accurate throws, receivers by hanging onto the ball and running the correct routes, and the offensive line with better blocking up front."

    Many sane/rational fans were saying this immediately after the game..

     
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    Re: What cost Pats the game

    I am going to conclude it was just a flat game with back to back road games for the Pats -- every team has one or two a year this was it for the Pats. JMO

     
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