What did you think of Belichick's explanation?

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    given the situation with no timeouts left, i would not have made the decision to go for it because IMO it is too risky if it is a close play (which it was). but i understand the logic and i understand that sometimes you need to take the chance to win the game NOW when it presents itself..... if Matt Cassell was QB, he would punt. It was Brady.... arguably a Top 5 QB of all time.
     
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    How come we did not hear all this stuff when Bill did the same thing in the Atlanta game? Oh ,thats right he made it, and jump started the offence. Friends do not forget the 4th and 3 in 2003 playoff game agaist TENN at mid field. It was huge in us winning that game,  and eventually winning us a Championship. Stay thirsty Bill, I loved the call. 
     
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     Were were this press people after the atlanta game? 
     
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    I personally love BB's explanations to everything he does. He never changes. He doesn't succomb to media or fan pressures. He is consistent each week. I don't think you can ask for anything more.

    BB gets chastised every week for not being media friendly, not disclosing injuries, etc. You know what, and I might be in the minority on these boards, but I would want him to be anything different.

    Quite frankly, BB could give the media his game plan each Friday and people would still say he is an jackal. I don't think he owes anyone, other than the organization, anything. He gives the forums plenty to speculate on.

    Lets move on from the how we think BB should or should not be in the media. I would play for BB over any coach in the league and wouldn't want any other coach for the Pats.

    Otis, I couldn't agree more about the timeout issue. Almost everytime you burn timeouts early in the half, it comes back to haunt you. It did again last night.
     
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    [QUOTE]I personally love BB's explanations to everything he does. He never changes. He doesn't succomb to media or fan pressures. He is consistent each week. I don't think you can ask for anything more. BB gets chastised every week for not being media friendly, not disclosing injuries, etc. You know what, and I might be in the minority on these boards, but I would want him to be anything different. Quite frankly, BB could give the media his game plan each Friday and people would still say he is an jackal. I don't think he owes anyone, other than the organization, anything. He gives the forums plenty to speculate on. Lets move on from the how we think BB should or should not be in the media. I would play for BB over any coach in the league and wouldn't want any other coach for the Pats. Otis, I couldn't agree more about the timeout issue. Almost everytime you burn timeouts early in the half, it comes back to haunt you. It did again last night.
    Posted by 4Adam13[/QUOTE]

    agreed. as angry as people are, who else would you want running this team...? the 4 on 2 didn;t cost us the game, game was out of control already
     
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    [QUOTE]His EGO is bigger than Krafty's now. BAD coaching, bad roster decsions, no confidnece in D to win the game..Bad, bad, bad.
    Posted by Bosnorth[/QUOTE]

    How does his "EGO" factor into this?  He made what he thought...and still thinks...was the best decision for his team.  What does this have to do with his ego?
     
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    [QUOTE]99.9% of those critical of Bill's decision, do not have any balls. It took guts. I think they got a bad spot. The announcers talked about "juggle juggle" IF he had gotten the correct spot and they went on to win, he would be considered a genious. Funny how everyone gorgets Maroney's fumble!
    Posted by shaboom[/QUOTE]
     
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     I won't forget Laurence Maroney's Fumble and neither will he. I'm certain he feels terrible and is the cause of the loss, no matter what ensued.
     I did not watch the end of the game, so I really cannot make any kind of credible judgement. But Pat's fans know Bill is a Great Coach and sometimes things don't work out the way you want. Manning is very tough to defend.
     What else can be said?  THIS!!!!  " Move on to the Jets Game, win the E.Dividion. Get in the playoffs and WIN"
      I like Maroney but there is no excuse for his Gaff. I don't know how I would treat it if I were coach with so few options available as a replacement.
     Go Pats, Beat the Jets
     
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    Despite whether he made the right call or not, how easy is it for the sports writers to lambast Coach Bill on his decision.  These are people who look for the negative and play it up at the earliest opportunity.  

    For the announcers of the games, who talk incessantly about how bad every call is or how weak the coaches know their job; I don't see them coaching.  I don't see them on the field having to make the decisions.  Yes, it is easy for them to criticize from their booth, where they have to be seen on television at least once or twice in every broadcast, who show replays so long that the viewers actually miss live plays.  Yes, it is easy for those with hindsight to say what should have done.  How I wait for television to offer the opportunity to mute these announcers and just have the field noise during the games.  Please, hurry with this add-on.
     
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          Bullshi*  Bullshi* Bullshi*  Come  On  People !!  Do  you  not  watch  The  Same  NFL  FootBall  I  Do?  Do  you  NEVER  Watch  Payton  Manning? Do  you  not  Watch  The  Colts  in  the  4TH  Quarter  when  there  even  Down  2  TouchDowns  with  5  minutes  to  GO????  Thats  Paytons  Game  (DUH)  and  they  Generaly  PREVAIL   Let  me  say  that  Again  WHEN  THE  COLTS  ARE  LOSING LATE  IN  THE  4TH  QUARTER Do  They  Not  (PreVail)???????  YES  YES  YES  THEY  DO!!!  God  Help  The  Patriots  Belichick  has  got  ALZHEIMER'S/DEMENTIA  .Hey  I  Love the  Patriots Love.  I  have  Box  Seats  since Steve  Crogan  was  the  QB  And  Flutie  was  the  Rookie,  I  have   waited  20 + Years  for   The  Pats  to  have  The  QB  THAT  They  Have  Mr  Tom  Brady  And  a  Great  Coach  Mr  B. Belichick  And  A  Fan  Turned  Owner  Mr  Kraft.  
                      When  you  pull  a  "Stunt"  like  that  Mr  Bill Belichick  You  Stick  a  Knife in  Every  Patriot  Fan, Sports Comentator, Ex  Patriot  Player  like  Tedy Bruschi.  It's very  common  sense  Big  Game  end of  the 4TH Quarter Coaches  Decision on 4TH Down  when  your  winning  the  Game, Let  alone  Blow  a  Big  Lead.  Always  make  The  Colts  in  that  Situation "Work  For  The  Win!! Don't  Give  Them  The  GAME!  Very  Disappointed Very  in  Coach  Belichicks  4TH Down Decision.  
                                   Die-Hard-    Pats-Fan
     
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    Anyone who actually thinks the defense would have stopped the Colts had BB punted is just flat out fooling themselves.

    They would have marched down the field and scored, just like they had been doing all throughout the 4th quarter.  Do you really think adding an extra 35 yards to there drive would have made a difference?

    NO, it would not have.  Going for it was the ONE AND ONLY chance we had to win the game.
     
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    I like the call, I don't like the play.  they should have ran 3 yard routes instead of 2 yards, that's really my only gripe
     
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    [QUOTE]New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick discussed his controversial fourth-down call during Sunday's game against the Colts at a press conference today. He said he thought his decision gave his team the best chance of winning the game. What are your thoughts about his explanation?
    Posted by BostonDotCom[/QUOTE]

    NEWSFLASH:  Belichick given truth serum and retracts statement!

    PRESS:  So what is the real reason for the call, Coach?

    BB:  I hate Peyton Manning.  I hate Bill Polian.  I hate Indianapolis.  I hate the Colts.  I hate the color Blue unless it is alongside Red and Silver.

    PRESS:  So Coach, you're saying you went for it on 4th and 2 because you're eaten up by anger and hatred?

    BB:  Can you think of a better reason?

    PRESS:  Gee Coach, I mean, you said it was all for your team, you know, anything to help them win.

    BB:  The heck with that!  I wanted to rub their noses in it.  i wanted to show them how little respect I have for them, their beautiful new stadum, their cheerleaders and their children.  I wanted to embarrass them, humiliate them.  If they were flies, I'd pull their wings off of them and watch them writhe in agony on the ground before I stepped on them and squished them all over the place!!!!"

    PRESS:  Uh, Coach, you seem to be getting a little upset.  I just have one more question.  Do you think that you would have gone for it against any other team in the league?

    BB:  HECK NO!  DIDN'T YOU HEAR ME YOU TWIRP?  I HATE THE COLTS!  I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY TEAM, YOUR TEAM OR ANYBODY ELSE'S TEAM!  I HATE THE COLTS AND I WANT THEM ANHILIATED!  I WANT THEM TO ALL DIE A PAINFUL DEATH!  THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE DEALING WITH...(gasp)...THEY HAVEN'T HEARD THE LAST FROM ME, ER, US, WE'LL GET EVEN WITH THEM...YOU WATCH...THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY..."

    PRESS:  Ladies and Gentlemen, we have just witnessed BB being escorted off the field in a straightjacket.  He has apparently had some sort of a B-B-Breakdown.  As he was led off the field, he was heard muttering something to the effect of, "4th and 2...I'll show them 4th and 2.  You think I can't make 4th and 2?  I'll show you 4th and 2..."     
     
     
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    [QUOTE]Anyone who actually thinks the defense would have stopped the Colts had BB punted is just flat out fooling themselves. They would have marched down the field and scored, just like they had been doing all throughout the 4th quarter.  Do you really think adding an extra 35 yards to there drive would have made a difference? NO, it would not have.  Going for it was the ONE AND ONLY chance we had to win the game.
    Posted by pyegian[/QUOTE]
    I seem to remember one particular game very similar to this one against Payton Manning Colts where it was 1st and goal from the 2 with time running out and the Patriot stop them 4 times in a row.  According to you, 35 yards do not matter nevermind 2.  How can I argue with that kind of nebulous and far reaching statement?  You can declare it as much as you like, but you never know until you play it out.
     
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    Problem is more than the decision.  Well justified lack of trust in the defense made up of  3rd round and lower draft choices have left the Pats without a credible pass rush.  Instead of trading down for quantity over quality (which isn't working) maybe fewer but higher and better picks mby doing the opposite would give them the studs they need.  Look at Mayo the lowest pick they have had since the now departed Seymour and Merriweather.  The Colts don't trade out of the first round.    This is true on the right side of the offensive line also.  Kazur was terrible again.  They  were out manned as well as out coached.   The arrogance which led them to think they could win with Rache Cauldwell has caught up with them again.  Also why did they try a run on the first play of their last series?  No gain,  Then a pass for 8 and then the decision which failed.  Looks like the season is over because even if they make the playoffs they most likely won't be in the super bowl.  How say you?
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't necessarily agree with the decision, but I am VERY critical of BB and his coaches for burning the time-outs that he needed for a challenge.  From my vantage poing, Faulk caught the ball for a first down and was pushed back.  Anyone else see it as a first down catch.
    Posted by Otis[/QUOTE]

    The clock management was very un-Patriotic. I don't think I've ever seen them mismanage time outs like that in any game before. Usually BB is right on and makes the correct decisions for clock management. That was the inexcusable part, not the going for it on 4th down. 
     
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     Bill Belichick is a man. 

      He made the call and even though it was  the players/refs who  didn't do their jobs Bill stood up and took the heat.

     That sports fans is how a man behaves.

     

     

     
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    First of all, it looked like to me that FAULK GOT THE 1ST DOWN.  However, I still WOULD HAVE PUNTED because the refs probably wouldn't have given another 30 YARD PI CALL to help Peyton score!  BS...
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What did you think of Belichick's explanation? : The clock management was very un-Patriotic. I don't think I've ever seen them mismanage time outs like that in any game before. Usually BB is right on and makes the correct decisions for clock management. That was the inexcusable part, not the going for it on 4th down. 
    Posted by Macrawn[/QUOTE]
    I agree and moreover, it feels like the Colts/Payton Manning had gotten in their heads.  They played like crap down the stretch and it felt like collectively they were powerless to do anything.  The two options they had was between 2 bad choices, damn if you do and damn if you don't either way.  The bad clock and time out management and bad play calling on both sides of the ball is a symptom of their indecision and not knowing how to respond.  I don't agree with people who said this was a gutsy move, to me, this was a move of an almost panic or scared coaching staff.  Similar thing happened last year when we lost also. We'll see what happen next time they meet again.
     
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    it was a DUMB move on his part they sould of punted but  by not giving his D a chance he basically said he has no faith in them
     
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    Really poor judgement by Brilliant Bill. The sad aspect is that Tom Brady exposed himself as an automaton. I mean really, come on, did Brady really just go along with that without at least questioning the logic of it all.  
     
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    [QUOTE]Really poor judgement by Brilliant Bill. The sad aspect is that Tom Brady exposed himself as an automaton. I mean really, come on, did Brady really just go along with that without at least questioning the logic of it all.  
    Posted by ThomasLynch[/QUOTE]
     
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    After 3 Super Bowl wins, I don't care if he flipped a coin and said go for it. No one, and I mean no one, in the last 30 years of Boston pro sports deserves a mulligan more than Belichick. It was only a regular season game. Colts know the Pats have their number - wait for the playoffs.
     
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