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What do my fellow Pats fans think of this?

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    Re: What do my fellow Pats fans think of this?

    I agree to all is said here. But I have to think that the first 3 SB Brady won was cause of his defense shutting the othe teams in the final 5 minutes. Defense came up huge with INT's in the Rams and Phill SB's. Againts the Panthers. The defense came up very very big that gave the Offense enough time to make a run for a filed goal. So with that said. The last 2 SB's the defense didnt do enough to stop the other team. They were able to go up and down on your defense as they liked. I really believe that defense does wins SB's. Brady can only do so much. 52 other players need to step up their games too not just always attack the QB.
     
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    I was listening to Felger and Mazz on the way home from work a couple days ago, and a Pats fan called in and made in interesting point about our HOF QB Mr. Brady. He basically said that he loved Brady, bla bla bla, but he brought up the point : When is the last time Brady has won a meaningful game? When was the last time Brady was clutch in a huge game, like the Brady of old? He went on to even say Brady is living off his past success and superbowls he won almost a decade ago. He said that is seems he has turned from a mediocre regular season QB with clutch postseason games, to a Peyton Manning type QB with mind blowing regular season numbers, but suspect post season performances, coming up short in the big games. He said it seems there used to be the " Me against the world " Tom Brady, and now its the " Hey my wife is Giselle and I won 3 superbowls " lol. Felger disagreed with him, and stated that Tom had a good enough performance to win this past Superbowl, had Welker caught that pass. The caller disagreed, arguing that Brady played much worse in that game than he did all season, bringing up the intentional grounding for a safety on the first drive etc. It made me think......is he kind of right?? I mean, I do NOT take Brady's greatness for granted...but its been almost a decade, and although the Pats put up these great numbers and records in the regular season, is it a legit argument to question if Brady is still clutch in the big games? Is he still that guy who can lead his team to a late game comeback? His window is closing, the team is stacked...I just wonder how many more chances he will get...What do you guys think?
    Posted by ReeGzUSMC


         Tom really hasn't played that well in the play-offs since SB 42. I thought then, and still believe now, that his confidence was shaken by that heart-breaking, 17-14 loss. Since then, though he's performed like a champ in the regular season, the truth is that he's been mediocre at best in the play-offs. But, how much does that have to do with the Patriots not having as good a team overall, as they did in the championship years, and in 2007?

         Last season, Tom didn't play well against the Ravens, and was not so hot in SB 46. But, in his defense, he was playing back to back games against perhaps the two toughest defenses in the NFL. Whether you're Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, or Hugh Millen, no QB is going to consistently shred the top defenses in this league.

         In the play-offs, Tom needs more help from his defense, and, especially, the strong support of his OL...which was so severely lacking in SB 42.   
     
     
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    Re: What do my fellow Pats fans think of this?

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    In Response to What do my fellow Pats fans think of this? : I think you sound a lot like a Colts' fan, that's what I think..! Suggestion....  Sign up for the NFL's Game Rewind and watch last year's SB, just for starters.  Pay attention to the end of the first half, in particular, say the last 6 minutes.  Brady, in crunch time, led the Pats down the field to the go ahead TD with time running out.  Then, he had them ahead late in the fourth, and had 3passes dropped, including Welker's, which would have iced the game.  But, c'est la vie, he didn't.  Make no mistake, tho, it was the NE defense that lost that game.  Same way, in fact, they lost their last SB against the G-Men.  Nothing to do with Brady's performance.....unless you expect him to be Superman in every game..!  
    Posted by Mr Bojangles



    Nah, Def. Not a Colts fan, but cute assumption....Its called looking at a big picture....I think brady is great...Top 5 in the league no question.....BUT....since 07...... two first round exits, and another dissapointing SuperBowl loss....Thats all I need to say... POSTSEASON is where the Games Matter most...is that even an argument?
     
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    Re: What do my fellow Pats fans think of this?

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    In Response to Re: What do my fellow Pats fans think of this? : I've yet to see what dumb things he's said.  I'll admit he's not been all that kind, but the cliche, "the truth hurts", didn't become one by being wrong. 
    Posted by UD6


    He's "fudged" the truth a number of times and refuses to answer questions and refuses to back up his BS, not unlike ......well, you.  Must be an Indy thing.
    Copying the same post over and over.  Pft  You can teach a monkey to do that.
    All animals learn by repetition.
    No one cares about accumulative stats gained by 2000 more throws.  Brady will surpass him on those.
    That doesn't necessarily make him good, more like selfish.
    Kinda like when Brees beat your clots 72-3.  Isn't that where Brees got most of his yards and TD's last year? 
    Without that embarrassment, Brady wins that record too.
     
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    Re: What do my fellow Pats fans think of this?

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    In Response to Re: What do my fellow Pats fans think of this? : Babe, the reason for this is that some pats fans know the defense isn't that good.  They also know that Brady is capable of delivering the team to victory.  Brady's stature is at the top of league.  Remember that run of postseason victories in the early 2000's?  Remember how much praise was heaped on Brady for all of those victories?  Was it irrational praise?  You decide.  If you give Brady all the praise for those wins, then he gets all the blame for the losses.  On the other hand, if you believe that wins are a team result and one man can't do it alone, then not only was the praise excessive and incorrect in the early years, the blame for the losses since that time are also excessive and incorrect.  You can't have it both ways. Posted by UD6
    The truth is that Brady's play (like Manning's by the way) has been consistently good throughout his career. He never deserved all the praise for winning --it is a team game--but he did deserve a lot of praise. What he's never deserved is a whole lot of blame for the rare losses over the past few years. Yes, he's made mistakes and there's nothing wrong with pointing those out, but it's a rare game indeed that the Pats lose because Brady messes up. So he deserves a lot of praise for his outstanding play, but rather little blame for poor play because, quite simply, there hasn't been all that much poor play. The same is true, as I said, about Manning. The few fans who come on and complain about Brady have a pretty weak grasp of the realities of football--at least as it pertains to Brady's performance and its effect on the outcome of a game.
     
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