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    What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 10:43 AM EST

    I know, I know the media idiots are all saying no matter how well the Pats play over the next 4 weeks it won't matter because they haven't proven themselves against good teams.

    But what do you guys want to see? What will make you feel confident going into the playoffs? Will just a simple "W" do it, or do you want to see 4 blow-outs?
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 10:47 AM EST

    In Response to What do you need to see?:
    I know, I know the media idiots are all saying no matter how well the Pats play over the next 4 weeks it won't matter because they haven't proven themselves against good teams. But what do you guys want to see? What will make you feel confident going into the playoffs? Will just a simple "W" do it, or do you want to see 4 blow-outs?
    Posted by KellieMB


    Well,,,not quitting would be a good start.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 10:56 AM EST

    I want to see the defense improve.  Get tough.  Make plays.  Things like that.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 11:05 AM EST

    In Response to Re: What do you need to see?:
    I want to see the defense improve.  Get tough.  Make plays.  Things like that.
    Posted by patsfaninsatx


    If they make plays against the Panthers will you be happy or will you chalk it up to them just playing a bad team?

    I'm asking because I just had an argument with a co-worker who informed me that unless the Pats win by at least 10 and don't let the oppsing team score more then 14 points in the next 4 games, then they suuck.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 11:17 AM EST

    honestly, i just need to see the team play with passion and get a W in any way.  if they get some sacks/solid pass rush and good overall contributions from the offense, then so much the better.  but the way things have been going, i just want to see a win.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 11:55 AM EST

    I dont care if they win by one point in everygame as long as they are holding the Lombardi trophy at the end of the season. The way they are playing now I don't see that happening. I'm still a little hopefull.

    Go Pats!
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 11:56 AM EST

    I want the offense to score in the red zone and the defense to put pressure on the QB without sending all 11 guys!
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 11:59 AM EST

    1. Better offensive play calling.  Go back to pre-2007...
    2. The defense not go into a prevent defense until the waning moments of the game, not the start of the 2nd half.

    We have other problems, but we'd be sitting pretty right now if we just did those two.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 12:04 PM EST

    I want to see Brady hit those open TD passes that present themselves every game once or twice.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 2:03 PM EST

    some form of consistency on both sides of the ball.  No more giving up 21 points in the second half, no more throwing it deep on 2nd and long, just more even effort by everyone from the coaches to the players.  It's a young team that clearly needs some time to mature, the next four weeks will be telling.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 2:07 PM EST

    I would like to see a win on the road. Our next one is at Buffalo.....no easy task for this team.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 2:10 PM EST

    Your coworker is a dumb@ss.  Look at the Steelers, they lost to Oakland, Kansas City and Chicago but I'm certainly not going to count them out.  I wouldn't be surprised if they won their last 4 and made a run in the playoffs.  All that matters is getting into the playoffs and how you play then.  You don't get anything for glamour points in the NFL.  Go out and win by any means and get hot in the postseason.  Anything can happen.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 5:25 PM EST

    What I would "love" to see is BB sign Mr. Willie Mac. for one day and have him come in the locker room and point his finger at Adalias Thomas and say "YOU OUTSIDE IN THE PARKING LOT NOW!!!"

     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 5:41 PM EST

    The whole team play solid, sound football for 60 minutes. Not 45, 50, 55, 59. It's embarrassing to see the halftime leads they've blown.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 5:47 PM EST

    Whether they win games by 1 point or 10 points, what I would like to see is the team FINISH games to the end!  They are playing plays all the way through, not giving up until the whistle blows.  When's the last time we saw an "oh boy!" defensive hit?  Unless this happens, these second half woes will continue and the Pats will get bludgeoned by a team hungry to win and play the full 60 minutes.

    Also, Brady needs to get his head in the game MUCH better.  HE obviously knows he has pulled some bone headed plays.  Could it be he is trying to atone for lack of play making on the part of other players, to make a big play to them and bring them back into the play making fold?

    Lastly, a touch of some players who may be thinking they can "turn it on" at will.  How can they look so good in the first half and then look so poor in the second?  Could we be seeing some "coasting"?

    The talent is there, we have seen it.  It is the heart of the players that seem to be short on gusto.  
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 5:51 PM EST

    I want to see the team look like they want to play. The players' body language the last few weeks has been terrible. No one looks like they are interested in playing. It seems like they fall apart once something goes wrong, and they can't bounce back.

    I'd also like to see the red zone offense and the pass rush improve. Even slight improvements in these areas would help dramatically.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 5:57 PM EST


     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 7:24 PM EST

    In Response to Re: What do you need to see?:
    What I would "love" to see is BB sign Mr. Willie Mac. for one day and have him come in the locker room and point his finger at Adalias Thomas and say "YOU OUTSIDE IN THE PARKING LOT NOW!!!"
    Posted by harleyroadking103



    HA HA HA! Wouldn't that be sweet. Maybe 'Sweet' Willie 'McGilly' can teach him how to create a pass rush.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 8:01 PM EST

    In Response to Re: What do you need to see?:
    What I would "love" to see is BB sign Mr. Willie Mac. for one day and have him come in the locker room and point his finger at Adalias Thomas and say "YOU OUTSIDE IN THE PARKING LOT NOW!!!"
    Posted by harleyroadking103


    I want this too! After that...I'd like to see them make better halftime adjustments, offensively and defensively. I think this has cost them a couple games this year....maybe even moreso on offense.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 8:02 PM EST

    If they run the table I have confidence they can win the 1st playoff game. They need play considerably better to do that starting with not sucking in the 2nd half of just about every game.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 8:58 PM EST

    See? See? I am blind to this team after seeing the better part of the past 10 years.   I would like to witness some intelligent play calling on Offense and Defense, more effort, some directed anger, $4 beers at the stadium, free parking in the lots that they already own...buck the trend, Pats! More effort, less entitlement!

     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 9:14 PM EST

    I would like to see the opposing Quarterback look confused, even for just 2 minutes.

    What happened to the days where inexperienced QBs were an automatic loss against a BB defense?

     Now we are more likely to sit back in loose coverage, with no blitzing and let sub-par QBs tear us apart.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/10/2009 10:01 PM EST

    In Response to Re: What do you need to see?:
    In Response to Re: What do you need to see? : If they make plays against the Panthers will you be happy or will you chalk it up to them just playing a bad team? I'm asking because I just had an argument with a co-worker who informed me that unless the Pats win by at least 10 and don't let the oppsing team score more then 14 points in the next 4 games, then they suuck.
    Posted by KellieMB


    He's an idiot.  The weather's colder and scoring will be tougher.

    Wins are wins.  If they improve in the red zone on offense and defense, then I'd be happy.

    It's more about seeing improvement.  If I see good things happening and I see the team make progress, then I'm not going to pay attention to the score and set ultimatums.  If they're doing good things, then the score will take care of itself.
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/11/2009 5:54 AM EST

    In Response to What do you need to see?:
    I know, I know the media idiots are all saying no matter how well the Pats play over the next 4 weeks it won't matter because they haven't proven themselves against good teams. But what do you guys want to see? What will make you feel confident going into the playoffs? Will just a simple "W" do it, or do you want to see 4 blow-outs?
    Posted by KellieMB


    1) Better coaching decisions - take pts when you have them, manage clock better, better offensive play calling (where's the wildcat?, less predictable), manage the field position better.
    2)From the players - better tackling, better ball hawking skills - we need turnovers from defense or special teams, play w/ emotion
    3) Establish a better running game - we need at least 100 yards per game
    4) Better punting game - we need to pin down opponents w/i their own 10 when possible
    5) Better play makers/game changers - solve our poor Red Zone Offense and Red Zone Defense - and most of our problems go away.

    and altho I already said it once....play w/ emotion/passion
     

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    Re: What do you need to see?

    posted at 12/11/2009 7:53 AM EST

    1. See this team play all 4 quarters on both sides of the ball
    2. See the offense make adjustments to the opposing defenses halftime adjustments
    3. See us pound the ball more and string some first downs together running the football.
    4. Not always gamble on 4th down especially when your in field goal range.
    5. Going with #4 not leave so many points on the field.
    6. Start seeing more pressure on the QB
    7. See the defense not letting the opposing offense to have a nice easy QB clinic.
    8. Better tackling especially at the line of scrimmage.