What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

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    What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    with the loss of welker you could instantly say the offense.add a poor o-line when the pass rush is relentless,and a average run game.then there is the defense that isnt great with the pass rush.even though banta cain has done well at times.then there is the secondary that just gets burned when a QB has time to throw.and at times other teams running backs run at will on the pats defense.even though welker is done the rest of the way.I still feel the pats can put up enough points to win a game,but its the defense that needs to step up and keep the other teams from getting more points then the pats put up.mainly in the 4th qtr.
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    Moss, I think it's the defense until they can prove otherwise against a good team. Our "D" won't be exposed this week to the fullest extent because we are Home and the Ravens Offense doesn't cut it like the Colts or the Chargers can. We should be able to win games when we score 24 points and that just isn't happening up until this point when we play a top flight offense. Let's hope everyone is healthy on defense now. We will be better against the run with Wilfork and Warren back.
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    A consistancy in variety of offensive play calling, or in other words having a balanced offense, spreading the ball around... something that can easily be fixed by sticking to a philosophy and creating manageable third down situations by running the ball.

    We have the manpower to match up with anyone, as long as someone else can manage the game on the offensive side without screwing up too much.
     
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    This is a toss up imo, but if I had to choose it would be the defense.  The offense is horrible in the second half, but the second half defense is even worse.  They have yet to show that they can make a stop when it counts.  Brady & Co. have built up big enough leads to win the game and the defense has let them down.  On the other hand Brady has yet to show this year that he can lead this team down the field at the end of a game and win like he used to.
     
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    OUr offense is the better unit. OUr D has gotta step up and make the big play during crunch time in the 2nd half.

    Regardless, this game will be determined by who can stop the run. If the Pats can get ANYTHING going on the ground they will control and win the game. But if we're handing off and losing yards we're screwed.

    With Wilfork and Warren back hopefully we can keep Rice and Mcgahee from stampeding down field unlike what happened in the 4th quarter vs. the Texans last week.

    It's all about who can make the other team respect their play-action.

    GO PATS!
     
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    I guess i could have added the coaching staff,and the play calling.also could add no conservative play calling when nurseing a lead in the 4th qtr.

     
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    the young group of DBs to include Bodden & Springs
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    With the loss of Welker the weak link may just be special teams.  In the post season where defenses dictate outcomes, the battle for field position will be of utmost importance.  The Pats neither have a true threat as a return specialist, nor do they appear to limit yards gained by the opposition very well.
    So, keep your fingers crossed and your beers cold it's gonna be an interesting ride.
     
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    i am sorry but how bad can terrance wheatly be compared to that burnt toast dude jonathon wilhite...
     
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    If you're saying defense first, than you aren't taking into account the affect an offense has on all other phases of the game.  If the offense goes three an out all game or hands the ball to the other side with turnovers, than you could have the 86 Bears defense and eventually you will lose the game.

    Maybe you haven't noticed the trend, but when our (or any for that matter) offense controls the time of possession and keeps the opposing team's offense off the field, than they don't have the opportunity to score.  Likewise if our D is on the field the majority of the game, eventually they are going to wear down, eventually there will be a mental breakdown.  Our D looks shockingly good when our offense is clicking and it breaks down at the end of games when our offense sputters.

    The old saying is correct, there's no defense like a good offense... the fact that we have a great, young and exciting defense is gravy when the offense does what they're supposed to.
     
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    With the exception of the Saints game which was just "one of those games", if the Patriots simply played an even 2nd half in the games they lost they would have won all of those games. I am not talking about winning the half, simply play to a stalemate. 

    I know you are not making changes to what you do at halftime when you successfully did everything you wanted in the first half. Which for the most part has been the case this season. You do have to have plan B though for when your opponent makes the changes necessary at halftime that you know they are going to make because you were killin' 'em out their in the first half. Why the hell do they either not have plan B or why is it that they can NOT execute plan B?

    Since the BYE week the Patriots has scored an AVERAGE of ONLY 8 points in the 2nd half of ALL games. (The Offense actually average fewer than 8 points as the D has scored in the 2nd half). Win OR Lose. It's worse. In the loses not only did they not score points, they were NOT even getting first downs in critical situations.

    Almost the entire Offensive starting unit returned for the Patriots, except for Gaffney. In the past 2-3 years there are 6 or 7 pro bowl offensive players currently on our Offensive unit.

    The Defense has a lot of new and sometimes changing faces. 2 New corner-backs(at times, sometimes a rookie), 1 New safety(at times, sometimes a rookie), 2 New OLB's(at times), 2 Rookie defensive lineman (in rotation at times). ONE player that has made the pro bowl in the past 2-3 years, that I can think of, that is currently starting for the D. I am not sure about my stats on the pro-bowlers but should be fairly accurate. I did not look it up, memory only.

    Let's take a look at a couple of the losses after the BYE week.

    Colts game:

    Pats Offense had 8 possessions in the 2nd half but only scored 10 points. 10. It's worse, of the 10 points BOTH scores came from the Offense being set up with a short field. Once on an Edelman Punt return to the Indy 7 yard line. They moved 7 yards and scored a TD. The other time when the Defense intercepted PM and gave the ball to the Offense and TB at the Indy 48 yard line. They moved it like 20 yards and had to kick a field goal. TB also threw an interception in the end zone and LM fumbled the ball on the goal line in that game.

    Texans game:

    Pats Offense had 5 possessions in the 2nd half but only scored 7 points. The other 7 points was scored by our Defense on a pick 6. One drive less than 20 yards, punt. One long drive and TD. One 3 and out, punt. One 2 play drive resulting in a TB interception giving the Texans a short field at the Patriot 28 yard line. Texans scored a TD on that. The Offense also gave the Texans ANOTHER TD when Fred Taylor fumbled in his own end zone and Texans(Pollard) recovered for a TD. LM may have cost his "own" team a TD but at least he didn't give the "other" team a TD. Of the 34 the Texans scored our Offense gave them 1 TD and set them up for a gimme score on the other.

    I still say we go as far in the playoffs as TB and the rest of the offense can play consistent and mistake free. We have won the games they do and lose the games they don't this season. Almost regardless of what the defense does.
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    The weakest link is Wilhite as third cornerback in the pass sub-package.  The weakest link used to be the pass rush but I think Burgess is getting a little better.  He has adjusted with time.

    The weak link is not "the offense".  The weak link is not "the defense".  Edelman for Welker is a loss, but it's not a particularly weak link.  Ron Brace is a stupid rookie but he's on the sidelines next Sunday. 

    You can always find a weakest link. To find a weak link with this team, you need a magnifying glass.
     
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    Easily the D, they cant stop a third down because there is NO PASS RUSH!!!
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    I'm concerned about the Offense, too. Particularly in the 2nd half of these games. Just can't keep the chains moving. Now, with Wilfork and Warren back for this one, I'm feeling a whole lot better about stopping the run and putting some pressure on Joe Flacco.
    Can't say it's all d-secondary issues for the Pats after Houston ran it down the Pats thoats last week.
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    The biggest problem right now is RBs who can't hang on to the frigg*n ball! If we're putting on the ground Sunday, we're done.
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    Punting.....we really *suck at it.
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    Our one and only weakness has a name:

    WILHITE
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    mighty-i agree about wilhite.IQ- I agree also.have to wonder how much conservative playcalling comes into play.I say forget about trying to chew up the clock on offense in the 4th qtr with the running game, and just turn up the heat.its ok if the running game is just running all over a team,but it dosent do any good if they are getting 2yrds a carry on every down in the 4th qtr,and we are forced to punt the ball away,and quit playing a mile off the receivers the way the defense does in the 4th qtr.
     
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    Re: What is The Patriots Weak Link Going Into The Playoffs-Offense or Defense?

    ALL 3 phases of the game - AND Coaching.

    Coaches = at times, suspect calling on offense and defense. Not taking points when available (early in games), Not playing for field position early in game, going on 4-and-short at bad/illogical field position, too conservative play calling - inability to change when other's have adapted to our style of play. Too predictable.

    Offense - ummm, how many problems have we had scoring in red zone or in second half?

    Defense - ummm, how successful have opposing teams been able to score TDs in our own Red Zone?

    Special Teams - how many times have our punter been able to pin opponents in their own 10 yard line or lower? How many times has our special teams given up large returns during kickoffs and punts during critical times?

    Where are the playmakers that can change the tone of the game to our favor? Where is the attitude and killer instinct?

    Just wondering...we are in a re-building phase...
     
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