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what is the running game over past 11 years?

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    In Response to Re: what is the running game over past 11 years? : babe let the big boys talk and go troll on 1 of your current 5 trolling threads. Underdog.
    Posted by TrueChamp



    The big boys? You must be talking about your gut because you can't possibly be talking about your simpleton's understanding of football.

    Now I'm Underdog? You're right about that like you are right about BB not knowing as much as you regarding the potential of running more.
     
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    Re: what is the running game over past 11 years?

    If you notice many times the patriots play uptemp no huddle to prevent teams from matching personnel so a lot of times the defense HAS to play toward our tendencies (spread shotgun) becuz they dont have the time to see who we line up and then match it.  If you played the patriots why wouldnt you play a nickel and dime defense? you need the dbs simply to cover welker gronk hernandez ON EVERY DOWN, your not going to put safety and lb on those 3 reguardless , look at the jets they practically sit out bart scott the whole game becuz of this. Teams can play these defenses becuz they know at the end of the day we wont stick to the run and punish them ( LIKE THE FIRST GAME VS THE JETS LAST YEAR BJGE KILLED THEM, JETS COULDNT BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY STUCK TO THE RUN) and I think the most overlooked benefit is protecting your franchise qb by slowing down the pass rush. As well as keeping our defense off the field.
    Every team has adjusted their defense to how the browns and jet played us now its time for us to adjust to that defense.

     
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    In Response to Re: what is the running game over past 11 years? : Wrong . This is just so wrong.  Teams go into nickel and dime to match up with personell. Even if you have Walter Payton's torso on Barry Sanders' legs with a nuclear reactor core at RB ... if you bring a slot player on the field, the opponent will go into nickel formation to match up with the slot WR. How does this misinformation spread that teams go into nickel and dime because they don't respect the run? They go into nickel and dime because NE very frequently has an extra TE or WR on the field.  And nickel or dime is what matches up with that personell.  What ... do you honestly, I mean honestly, think that a few extra runs from BJGE would prompt a defense to put a linebacker on Wes Welker? Pardon my french here ... but that's f#cking nuts. If you are watching football and seeing defense formations, and thinking that they are based on opponents' tendencies, then you are watching it wrong.  The most, most that might happen is that you adjust the safeties to or away from the line, or the CBs the same, or assign linebackers a role. And in that regard .... the RBs on this team, BJGE in particular, have never been able to capitalize on the room they've gotten.  Personell dictates personell ... not what a team "thinks" a person is going to do. 
    Posted by zbellino


    I think you made the point that was trying to be originaly made although incorrectly.

    "The most, most that might happen is that you adjust the safeties to or away from the line, or the CBs the same, or assign linebackers a role. And in that regard .... the RBs on this team, BJGE in particular, have never been able to capitalize on the room they've gotten."

    The passing game sucess and running game sucess vary a considerable amount on personnel. Based on what you said above a better running back than BJGE will capatilize on the extra attention being paid the passing game and take advantage. Thus the extra attention will stop being paid and Brady and the rec will benefit. Just the fact the opposing D will hold a milisecond longer to diagnose pass vs run before they break or the RB will be a milisecond faster can result in a broken tackle or missed tipped ball at a crucial moment.
     
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    In Response to Re: what is the running game over past 11 years? : This is priceless. So they don't cheat toward the pass because we don't run enough, they cheat toward the pass because we throw all the time. Thanks for participating today, as usual you contradict yourself at every opportunity.
    Posted by TrueChamp


    No genius. THEY CHEAT TOWARD THE PASS BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE RUN.

    Is it that hard for you to grasp that an opposing D is more afraid of what Brady can do to them than what BJGE can do to them?

    What is wrong with you? You can't understand the simplest of things. But you still want to instruct BB on how to do things. LMFAO. It's insanity!

     
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    So because our passing game is so good we should continue to pass into 6-7 DB coverages? You sound like a bonified offensive coordinator bill obrien junior, and don't try and spin me into an anti BB guy like you are the king of. 2 faced spinning logic, just like Underdog.

    What do you so beside spam the board? Seriously?



     
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    So because our passing game is so good we should continue to pass into 6-7 DB coverages

    EXACTLY!
     
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    Re: what is the running game over past 11 years?

    I amsorry True but I must have missed where you laid those facts.  The info I have presented is for the regular season only.  You are talking oranges to my apples because you cannot dispute my regular season numbers.  I guss a D that cannot hold a 21 point lead is not at fault; the problem lies with a running game

    I consider PS games to be a separate entity.  But just for grins let's look at offensive PPG

    57 TDs 2011
    56 TDs 2010
    47 TDs 2009
    42 TD  2008
    67 TD
     
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    I amsorry True but I must have missed where you laid those facts.  The info I have presented is for the regular season only.  You are talking oranges to my apples because you cannot dispute my regular season numbers.  I guss a D that cannot hold a 21 point lead is not at fault; the problem lies with a running game I consider PS games to be a separate entity.  But just for grins let's look at offensive PPG 57 TDs 2011 56 TDs 2010 47 TDs 2009 42 TD  2008 67 TD
    Posted by provpats


    No problem, here are the facts. The years we were the "most" balanced we won 3 SB's with inferior offensive talent to what we currently possess.01,02,03

    Do you disagree?

    In 06 with the worst offensive talent we have probably ever had we beat a great Chargers team in SD to make it to the AFC championship game whwere we scored 34 points.

    Then when we switched to the pass heavy offense from 07 till now we had 2 of the highest scoring offense's in NFL history but it only amounted to 15.5 ppg in both SB's and only 21 points against the Jets(a team we just laid 40 on a few eeks before) and in 09 only 14 points scored in the post season against the ravens.

    We became one dimensional and have thus been contained by good defense's.

    Do you disagree?


     
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    Re: what is the running game over past 11 years?

    what was the margin of victory in those SB wins?  what was the margin of loss in the SB and 06 losses? as you say in your postscript defense wins championships.  PS games are naturally closer because they are the better teams

    the balance during the regular season has nothing to do with the PS balance

    do you have any stats on the PS besides PPG?  run vs passes?
     
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