Re: What will it take..
posted at 2/18/2013 5:54 PM EST
In response to ClarkGriswold's comment:
In response to garytx's comment:
Outside of Babe and a couple of others I think most here can say Brady didn't play his best but geez guys you have to have some kind of a defense out there. The Pats are hurting here. It really showed up when Talib went out. And not to say that it all hangs on Talib because it could have been Dennard instead. One of those guys goes out and the defense goes back to the stone age.
On offense there needs to be some kind of philosophical change. Gronk goes out two years in a row and the offense just isn't the same. Something has to give there.
Just responded to you in the other thread. For any want or need on D, the root fundamental problem that has absolutely plagued this team, really since 2005 in the postseson, is the OFFENSE.
You can't run essentially the same offense every postseason and then not score points, move the ball at all, lose field position and turn it over multiple times in close games against good teams and then come running in and blaming the D for not masking the offense's gaffes the initiated the momentum change.
There shouldn't be any more confusison on this topic anymore. It's over. I am not losing another postseason game again watching that putrid, finesse offense that Brady has preferred to run.
Yes, Talib and Jones not there hurt, but they weren't playing since the 1st qtr. It was 13-7 towards the end of the 3rd qtr.
Acting like a team's dimeback is supposed to look good against an Anquan Boldin is a little silly.
I had my fingers crossed the whole game on that situation, but Brady and the offense never scored 1 point in the second half, dude. Not even a FG.
Please stop. This isn't anything new. There are variations of this problem in terms of struggling to move the ball and score points, avoid turnovers for YEARS. YEARS in the postseason.
The old D's held the other teams in 12-14 ossession games. That's a huge difference in a 14 possession game and a 8 possession game. They had to make stops on 6 more possessions.
The fact that you refuse to aknowledge this proves your trolldum.
You need possessions to score. 8 is not enough to score high points. Both O's were low scoring due to the limited possessions. The D gave away the game. TWICE!
THAT is the truth.
The D was responsible for those loss of possessions due to almost 5 minutes of clock average on every single possession.
The SB D's got picks that resulted in points The last 2 they got ZERO!
The SB ST 's scored points. The last 2 SB's they got ZERO
Fumble recoveries? ZERO! This is not even disputable. And it's certainly not acceptable!
Joe Flacco got both a pick and a fumble and a defensive stop to win the game.
He also got 7 from ST's
How much more proof do you need. Without those he loses by 19 freaken points.
His recievers also did not drop passes.
IT TAKES A TEAM
One man is not enough and if you think he can or should overcome all the other pathetic play than you simply expect to much. That's your problem. You give the whole freaken D a pass and blame any loss on TB. THat's ridiculous as the D is responsible for 95% of them.
Whether they score 30+ pts or 13, it doesn't matter. All the losses come on the last DEFENSIVE drive. EXACTLY ONCE in the last 6 years has the D made a end game stop (with the lead, people) and it took a missed FG to win that! ppffttt. Congrats!
And to say all the money is on the O is very pathetic. 90% of the draft picks have been defensive. Maybe if those players lasted more than a year or two, they'd get paid more.
Mayo and Fork get paid plenty. Too bad they are the only ones good enough to last more than 2 years or not get cut in their rookie contract or as a FA, the same or next year. Millions of $$$$$ just flat out wasted on crappy picks and FA's. WASTED!
You want cap space, well there it is.
They've been trying to replace the same 4-5 players for 6 years, now! UGH