when is a tackle positive,and negative?

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    when is a tackle positive,and negative?

    I hear so many people talk about this player,or that player haveing 100 tackles or more.but i have to wonder if they were a positive tackle,or a negative one.if a team has a third down,and four yds to go,and they hand the the ball to there running back,and he gets six yards,and the first down.the player who made the tackle gets the credit,but it would have to be a negative tackle,for the runner got the first down.sure he may not have ran all the way for a TD,but he got what they needed.a receiver goes out and does a cross route,and catches a 30yrd pass,and gets tackled.the secondary player gets the credit for the tackle,but after a thirty yard reception.again its good he got tackled,but you have to figure it was a negative one for the receiver gained thirty yards.most stats are great for madden,or fantasy football,but in reality its the negative yrds,or the int,s forced fumbles that makes the positive tackles.
     
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    Re: when is a tackle positive,and negative?

    a tackle doesn't really mean much. perhaps the one group of positions that it is generally good to have high amounts of tackles would be the defensive line.
     
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    The thinking behind the tackles made stat is that it is assumed, that a player with a lot of tackles is always around the ball. The issue of possitive yardage is not a single player issue but rather a team issue..
     
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    Re: when is a tackle positive,and negative?

    Maybe just to add to this. lets say your safety is your tackle leader. More than likely the other team is picking up good yardage. Is that the Safety's fault?? NO..That would be a red flag on your D line and LB's.
     
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    Of course a low number of tackles overall is also a good thing. That'll usually mean your team is getting off the field quickly and the offense is taking up quite a bit of time.
     
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    If the LBs and D Linemen in the Pats 3-4 base are making tackles (whether recorded properly or not) this is good thing because it means that the players that are supposed to make plays are making them. As someone stated if the players in your secondary are making a large number of tackles then something is seriously wrong with the front seven. Sometimes stats are inflated or deflated. I still don't know definititively what warrants an assist. If a team is in a ball control field position type game more tackles could be recorded when the running game takes precedence over the passing game. By contrast, if the Pats (and the Brady-led passing attack) get a large early lead, teams will be forced to throw the ball more often (meaning more tackles for the secondary hopefully). When any play is stopped by the secondary it is usually bad news because either the RBs have reached the defensive backfield (large gain) or the opposition`s passing attack is successful. All this is fairly elementary. We all know that the longer the Pats D is on the field the more tackles will be recorded; it also means that the opposing offense is successfully executing it`s game plan. I am HUGE fan of three and outs; funny thing is that if you have enough of them your leading tackler might only get 10 tackles. The 49er defense is always on the field (mediocre offense) is always on the field and is mediocre except for Willis who flys all over the field recording tackles. If they record more three and outs Willis will inevitably have fewer tackles; Doesn`t make Willis any less of a player for having fewer tackles, it just means the 49ers are playing better team defense and everyone is playing their role successfully.

    On three and out, I don`t care who got the tackle or pass defensed as long as we get the ball back. Obviously tackles recorded behind the line of scrimmage could easily be percieved as more valuable than tackles made after a large gain, however, you still need players that can tackle in the open field after gain as much as you need sack specialist DEs and OLBs. I know Mayo is a stud tackling machine, but if the Pats play great team defense and keep the score low and (you know !) win the game I don`t really care how many tackles he records.
     
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    Re: when is a tackle positive,and negative?

    I'm positive our tackle (Kaczur) is a negative.
     
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