Re: Where is the Run Run Run Crowd Tonight?
posted at 1/20/2014 8:15 AM EST
In response to Muzwell's comment:
In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:
In response to Muzwell's comment:
Good idea Bill and Josh. Even geniuses get it wrong now and then I guess. Hey, I'm open to opposing views, just please spare me the Rusty, Jr. crap or the he's a lousy GM stuff. Talk about the game strategy, with the players they had did they employ the right strategy to win that game?
There are times when there is no strategy that works with the players you have. Football is not merely an intellectual exercise. Strategy is part of it, but talent and execution are critical. If you don't have the talent, or you just don't execute, all the scheming in the world won't save you.
I said before the game that the key was for the defense to be able to get Manning out of rhythm (with pressure on receivers and the QB) and keep him from moving the ball and scoring because there was no way the Pats' offense could win in a s h o o t out. Unfortunately, the defense couldn't do that, so we ended up in a gun fight without enough guns. Our passing game isn't good right now because we don't have good receiving TEs and WRs beyond Edelman. If we had been able to get the running game going, that would have helped a bit, but with our weak receivers, Denver was able to focus on shutting down the run and we couldn't sustain drives with it. The reality is that moving the ball and scoring in the NFL tends to require an efficient passing game and we just don't have that. When you don't have that, you better play well on defense.
So defensive play was key in this game. The lack of pass rush, though, was a huge problem for us. We got absolutely no pressure on Manning and, especially without Talib, our DBs and LBs aren't good enough to cover all those good wideouts and TEs when Manning has all day to throw. You can't scheme your way out of that.
As it has been every year, our problem is mostly about talent.
I agree, the defense was abysmal. It was cripping to lose Talib, again.
It's possible that no matter what they did on offense, they'd have lost. My whole point is the offensive game plan. The only chance they had to win the game was to follow the SD blueprint. And they went in the complete opposite direction. I'm being far more critical of the coaching than of the QB. He's following orders, running the plays that are called. The playcalling, the game plan was malpractice. If BB weren't who he is, I'd be saying he should go.
I'm not a run first guy. I believe with the rules the way they are, you need to pass to set up the run. I believe that the 2007 Patriots were the greatest team ever assembled and would have gone down in history as such but for one play. I'd be fine if they went back to that type of team, if Brady still has that in him (which I'm not sure of).
I don't think you can win in the NFL if you can't pass the ball, unless your defense is stupid good. If Seattle had an average or even above average D, they'd be 6-10. Marshawn Lynch or no Marshawn Lynch, their offense is below average. The QB is overrated. They'd be the Vikings.
But with all that said, you game plan based on the assets at your disposal, not what you had inn 2007. The game plan yesterday was a joke.
I really think they hoped to run. I just think everyone in the world knew they wanted to run and Denver was well prepared for it. They did try to feed Blount and later Ridley the ball early. But they weren't getting enough good gains and had to revert to the pass--both to get the yards they needed for first downs and also in the hope of losing up the defense a bit to open up the run. (I think they opened with a pass exactly because they wanted to losen up the defense to set up the run.)
I wasn't too surprised by what we saw yesterday. It was one of the scenarios I thought was likely for the game. The Pats just aren't built right now to beat Denver if Denver is clicking on offense. Maybe if our defense wasn't as injured as it has been we could have played more like Seattle or the Niners (you're analysis of the Seahawks is right on), but given the state of the defense we were just cooked yesterday.
Too bad. It was a team that overachieved after all the injuries. But it just finally met up with much more talented team it couldn't beat.
As usual, Gronk would have made a big difference, but as usual he was out for the big playoff game . . .