In response to wozzy's comment:
In response to BabeParilli's comment:
Logic states, in essence here, you are saying....
Luck = Brady
You might be jumping the gun a bit with that.
Babe that's not logic talking, that's you taking a quantum leap from logic with my statement in an attempt to discredit me and the very blatant and obvious differences between Luck and Tebow, which is like comparing a Ferrari and a Yugo.
Luck carried his team, Tebow was carried by his team and failed miserably, that's why he doesn't start in the NFL, not because of some perceived slight by Elway or Rex Ryan; the talent just isn't there.
You can't compare Tebow to Flutie either, Flutie even in his early formative years still threw almost ten points higher on average than Tebow or about the same as Luck. Flutie still had to go to Canada to prove he could play and throw the deep out pattern, Tebow has proven he can't throw the deep route tree and has to go to Canada to prove otherwise and he won't be able to.
It might be telling to note that with Tebow as the starter in 2011 the Broncos were the worst passing team or in the bottom three in every statistical category in the NFL. A year later with Manning and the same receivers they were in the top three.
Not trying to discredit you wozzy. Just pointing out that what you actually said in likening the two comparisons isn't viable when put under scrutiny. Comparing Tebow to Luck is nothing like comparing Tebow to Brady.
There are a lot of ways one can spin the Tebow record.
One could say he managed to notch a playoff win in his first year they gave him the ball and Luck didn't.
One could say Luck took a team playing a schedule based on a 2-14 record the year before and because of that made the playoffs.
One could say Tebow has a signature moment of distinction throwing an 80 yard TD pass and Luck has no such thing.
I made a comparison of the two anonymously to make a point. If the point is lost on you, no problem. I'm trying to get along with you these days.
As far as Flutie, there is a lot more to him playing in Canada than being able to throw an out. He crossed the picket lines for one. He also was considered too short for another. Only when he became perhaps the GOAT in Canadian Football did those things no longer seem to matter.
I always go with my hunches on players because I'm almost always right. I have a hunch Tebow is better than many give him credit for and the facts, if not the hype, says I'm right.
A good spirited but respectful debate is always fun. At least I think so.