Re: Which young QB is most bound for Canton?
posted at 10/6/2009 11:16 AM EDT
In Response to Which young QB is most bound for Canton?
[QUOTE]we all know that warner, brady, manning, and peyton are LOCKS. but what of the next generation or group. I will add in Ben and Eli in also. If they stay healthy, they are kind of locks also esp since they both have rings! Guys like Sean Hill, Drew Brees, Mcnabb, Matt Schaub, Michael Vick could make a run if they get hot and help a team or 2 win a ring. Youngies like Kevin Kolb, Josh Freeman, Vince Young or Stafford could be the real deals but we'll see as they get some playing time and starts. Oldies like Kerry Collins have simply run out of time. I think that kid Jimmy Clausen will be a great pro, as will Timmy Tebow and the freshman kid from Michigan! Guys like jason Campbell, Trent Edwards and brady quinn are doomed to be long term backups at best in the NFL!
Posted by bubbakilla[/QUOTE]
I project Tim Tebow at tight end. I don't think he'll make it as a pocket passer and he won't be able to plow over linebackers while scrambling in the league. AT BEST, I think he looks like a left handed David Garrard in a college uniform. But if you can project kids in college into the Hall, you really should be working for a team, not posting threads on Boston.com's forums. Same goes for the rookies this year - it's more like playing the lottery on guessing their success.
I think there's a microscopic chance that Shaun Hill could be the next Tom Brady - he was largely shunned at first, already runs an offense similar to what a young Brady ran (avoiding turnovers, short-medium patterns). Having Frank Gore and Glen Coffee doesn't hurt either, though. He has to win rings like Brady though, or discover previously unknown passing abilities.
I think Matt Ryan has a good chance at the rate he's going - good numbers, good winning percentage - but even with him I think it's way too soon to tell?
I don't know about McNabb... but I do know the race card will be played again when he's discussed. It's difficult for me to get the image of him hunched over and winded at the end of Super Bowl XXXIX out of my head and how he and Andy Reid squandered the clock, and it's hard for me to say that such squandering is Hall-worthy. I think of him like I do Jim Kelly, in losing big games but still winning at a high percentage and putting up good stats in passing offenses. He might, and with the race card thrown in I think he will.
Drew Brees might have the stats to make it to the Hall regardless if he continues to put up 4,000+yds & 25+tds / season, but a ring never hurts.
And I'm very doubtful that Michael Vick will overcome the controversy attached to him AND put up Hall of Fame numbers. Even if he did lead his team to a ring, he still wouldn't have the career stat totals to compare to the QB's of his generation. His chance left two years ago when he lost two years of his prime to jail. If he continued for those two years at the rate he was going, I think he would have had the unique numbers to make an argument (running yards and TD's from the QB position). Now I think he has to win multiple rings and a lot of PR. I don't think one ring will do it.