Who is our kick returner?

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    Who is our kick returner?

    Simple question. Never understimate the value of a good kick returner

     
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    Won't matter, the KO's will be from the 40 yard line now. No more KO returns are expected.

     
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    In response to kansaspatriot's comment:
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    Won't matter, the KO's will be from the 40 yard line now. No more KO returns are expected.

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    Is this a joke?

     
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    Won't matter, the KO's will be from the 40 yard line now. No more KO returns are expected.

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    Isnt that a proposition? I dont believe it has been changed yet

     
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    Re: Who is our kick returner?

    It is a proposed rule change, which I hope is rejected. 

    Assuming the rule change is rejected, the question of who our kick returner will be is a good one.  Boyce was the guy we hoped would fill that role, but he didn't really deliver.  Blount is likely gone.  Edelman is a possibility, though he's more a punt guy.  Maybe Vereen, or one of the DBs?  

     

    Will be interesting to see how this evolves in camp.

     
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    KO returners are becoming less and less important because of the rule change(s).

    I mean nowadays as a returner you just need to be able to hold onto the ball and be smart enough to take a touchback or run it out to the 15 or more.

    I get that the NFL is being forced into rule changes in the name of safety (i.e. litigation).

    Here's the rule change I'd like to see that should satisfy both sides:

    Amend the NFL rule that requires the ball to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds.  Use a special ball for KOs only that is filled with less air (maybe 10 or 11 pounds).

    That would make it difficult for the kicking team to drill it through the EZ.

     
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    It is a proposed rule change, which I hope is rejected. 

    Assuming the rule change is rejected, the question of who our kick returner will be is a good one.  Boyce was the guy we hoped would fill that role, but he didn't really deliver.  Blount is likely gone.  Edelman is a possibility, though he's more a punt guy.  Maybe Vereen, or one of the DBs?  

     

    Will be interesting to see how this evolves in camp.

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    Dont want Edelman on kick returns.

    I would say McCourty would be the best kickoff returner of the db bunch but I dont want the starting FS returning kicks.

    Boyce might not even make the team next season.

    Kick returns def seem to be of low priority to BB...and Im not saying break the bank for a kick return specialist, because I dont think thats worth it...But kick returns have played a big role in the last two super bowls

     
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    Boyce.

     

     
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    One of the rookies.

     
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    Bolden

     
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    Boyce.

     

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    +1

     
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    Re: Who is our kick returner?

    If the kick-off ends up at the 40 yard line, why waste the time having one?  Only possible reason I can think of is the possibility of an on-side kick.

     
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    Re: Who is our kick returner?

    On the kick-off rule, I've suggested that they replace the place kick with a punt, as is done currently on the only other free kick in the game, the safety kick.  They could then choose a restraining line (line where the ball is kicked) that would result in most of these punt-style kick offs reaching the goal line (or maybe being short of the goal line, if that is required so that an average return will get the ball out to the 20 or 25).  

    There are several reasons I like this proposal:

    • It retains a meaningful kick-off, with a return still a possibility on most kicks
    • I believe the punt will shorten the length of kicks, preventing the long, high-speed runs down the field that result in injury-causing collisions
    • It is consistent with the current rules of the game, since the safety kick and kick off share all the same free kick rules, except for the method of kicking. 

    Personally, I prefer to retain a meaningful kick-off, but if we have to get rid of it for safety reasons, then let's try anything that doesn't result in automatic touchbacks or the automatic placement of the ball at the 20. 

    Also "safety kick" would now have a double meaning . . . Wink

     
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    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:
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    On the kick-off rule, I've suggested that they replace the place kick with a punt, as is done currently on the only other free kick in the game, the safety kick.  They could then choose a restraining line (line where the ball is kicked) that would result in most of these punt-style kick offs reaching the goal line (or maybe being short of the goal line, if that is required so that an average return will get the ball out to the 20 or 25).  

    There are several reasons I like this proposal:

    • It retains a meaningful kick-off, with a return still a possibility on most kicks
    • I believe the punt will shorten the length of kicks, preventing the long, high-speed runs down the field that result in injury-causing collisions
    • It is consistent with the current rules of the game, since the safety kick and kick off share all the same free kick rules, except for the method of kicking. 

    Personally, I prefer to retain a meaningful kick-off, but if we have to get rid of it for safety reasons, then let's try anything that doesn't result in automatic touchbacks or the automatic placement of the ball at the 20. 

    Also "safety kick" would now have a double meaning . . . Wink

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    Well, this is better than the direction that the NFL is headed, but I like my idea (above) better because it maintains the kickoff as we know it.   It's ironic that if the NFL adopts BB's extra-point rule change and move the KO to the 40 they will have shifted the boredom from the extra-point to the KO itself.

    Another way to slow down the speed from the kicking team is to reduce the number of yards they can be behind the restraining line.  Make it 1 yard instead of 5, so that they are starting from roughly a dead stop. 

     
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    On the kick-off rule, I've suggested that they replace the place kick with a punt, as is done currently on the only other free kick in the game, the safety kick.  They could then choose a restraining line (line where the ball is kicked) that would result in most of these punt-style kick offs reaching the goal line (or maybe being short of the goal line, if that is required so that an average return will get the ball out to the 20 or 25).  

    There are several reasons I like this proposal:

    • It retains a meaningful kick-off, with a return still a possibility on most kicks
    • I believe the punt will shorten the length of kicks, preventing the long, high-speed runs down the field that result in injury-causing collisions
    • It is consistent with the current rules of the game, since the safety kick and kick off share all the same free kick rules, except for the method of kicking. 

    Personally, I prefer to retain a meaningful kick-off, but if we have to get rid of it for safety reasons, then let's try anything that doesn't result in automatic touchbacks or the automatic placement of the ball at the 20. 

    Also "safety kick" would now have a double meaning . . . Wink

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    Well, this is better than the direction that the NFL is headed, but I like my idea (above) better because it maintains the kickoff as we know it.   It's ironic that if the NFL adopts BB's extra-point rule change and move the KO to the 40 they will have shifted the boredom from the extra-point to the KO itself.

    Another way to slow down the speed from the kicking team is to reduce the number of yards they can be behind the restraining line.  Make it 1 yard instead of 5, so that they are starting from roughly a dead stop. 

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    All better ideas than what the Redskins proposed.  

    Your idea and mine both have the same effect--shortening the length of the kick.  I could go with either, I guess.  The one-yard rule would be okay too, though that might allow for longer returns because the defense gets downfield more slowly.  Ideally, a return from the goal line should, on average, bring the ball back to a few yards past the 20 yard line, so you have to think how the rule effects both the length of the kick and the length of the return.  

     

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