Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    You can't win a SB every year.

    There are other organizations working hard to win too, you know?
     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    Problem is that the defenses of 2001,2003 and 2004 contained a special group of players that used BB's system and schemes to perfection. They were tough and could play smash mouth football. Inspirational leaders and smart players that could disguise what they were doing and confuse the best QB's and offensive co ordinaters. It was a unique match of them and BB that don't come along too often. Unfortunatley they got old and retired and really can't be replaced quickly. Pats did a stellar job this year rebuilding into a force on the run and well compete for the next few years again. Young players in playoffs sometimes struggle and it is a learning experience. Yesterday was the time when the Pats D of old would have bailed out the offense and got a key stop or turn over at a critical point and changed the game - these young guys are still learning. I still think they need to bring in a pass rusher to help the D in big games - somebody an offensive co ordinaters will have to factor into all their plans when they play the Pats. Oline is a bit of a mystery. They protected Brady to perfection all year but fell down yesterday and in the 2007 Superbowl.
     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    That' a silliy thing to apologize for.  I think most fans want a SB victory every year.

    I just think it would be kind of inaccurate to only factor in the Patriots when analyzing who wins the SB each year.

    The Colts, Giants, Steelers, etc all have an impact on where you end up at the end of the year over the time period you are talking about.

    If you are looking for what the Patriots could do better, it starts and ends with toughness and defense.  That is where they need to improve. 

    It still doesn't guarantee victory - although I would have loved to see them play yesterday with Julius Peppers.
     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    You need to study football history more. The Patriots won three Super Bowls and went to another a few years later. Teams get old and need to be rebuilt. Pretty simple. Kraft and Belichick have done a masterful job of retooling the team and back in contention! 14-2 in a rebuilding year? Are you kidding me? Boston sports fans have been blessed! The Patriot future is bright! Regression? Sorry, I see the Pats competing for the Super Bowl now and in the future! This next draft is big!
     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    I blame you!
     
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    I think people will feel a lot better about the status of this team once a little time has passed. This was a team that really suprised me. They went 14-2 with almost the worst statistical defensive team in the NFL. That is pretty impressive! The 2001 & 03/04 teams were a dynasty. That team had a rare mix of great defensive and offense players that is seen about once a decade in the NFL. Dallas in the 1990's, 49ers in the 80's, Steelers in the 70's etc. Usually once the run of 3 or 4 Super Bowls are over it is time for the core players to ride off into the sunset. As it did for most of our defensive players slowly over the following couple years. It just so happened our QB was right at the start of his career when the dynasty began, while many of the other core players were mid/later career.

    Some are saying BB should be replaced. That's crazy! He is still a strong force. And, anyone who lived thru Pete Carolls time here knows things can go south fast following the loss of a great coach.

    That being said, will the Patriots win another SB in the BB/TB era? I have no idea. It will depend on how this defense develops from here. In the playoffs, you have to be able to win games in different ways. If the opposing team shuts down your offense, you need to shut down that teams offense as well, and if might mean winning a game 12-6 or some other low scoring result. If the offense has to score over 30 points per game, at some point, might be 1st game, might be the super bowl, a team is gonna stop them, and a low scoring game will have to be won, or no Super Bowl in most cases. We have seen this many times. Teams that appear unstoppable on O get shut down. Manning, Kelly, Marino and on and on.




     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    bandwagon fans like yourself who only show up to make negative posts during game threads
     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    "So no Super Bowls since the 04/05 season and who's to blame the most for this regression in championships?"

    Read this over to yourself.  Really?  REALLY?  YOU are to blame.  Name all the teams that won three in a row.  Now name all the teams that won 5 in a decade.  Why did you think we should expect to do better than all that?  Its hard to win it all.  We put together some pretty good teams in the years we won, and we got some lucky breaks, and we won some squeakers both in the Superbowl and just getting there.  We have lost a few since then.  We contend every year, and every year you have a reasonable expectation of going to the Superbowl.  We won the division, what, 7 times from 2000 to 2009?  You wan't too much.
     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    I take issue with putting blame on Brady or Belichick. Brady was having an MVP season till yesterday; really just a phenominal, almost perfect year.

    Belichick is one of, if not the most smartest coaches you'll ever find; who has changed, reshaped, every team we have had since he has been here...into winners.

    The only problem I have is as an organization they have not done enough while the two of them are together. Branch should have never been traded in the first place (we win that Super Bowl that year) if he was on the team. Seymore should not of been traded for a draft pick two years away, the week before the season starts. We needed to make a push for Peppers. If we had Seymore and or Peppers yesterday we win that game and are a lock to win the whole thing.

    Hey, no one really knows what we need, but I just wish they'd go all in while you have these two guys together.
     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    You don't need to be in a panic.The  Pats needs to draft real talented players and maybe trade a player or get a vetern in the free agency market.


     
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    Re: Who Needs To Be Blamed for the Regression Since 2004?

    Actually Belichick has had to rebuild this defense from close to scratch. By contrast the Jets built via free agency. Rex has great defensive mind and his personality seems to suit his team. I wonder if his tenure as a head coach will surpass Buddy's. There has been a serious turnover in player personal the last few years. The Jets did what any team that drafts poorly would do rely on imported players.

    I seldom listen to a media that gives more ink to the Jets than statutory rapists (SEE LT).

     
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