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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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    yeah! looks JUST like him! michael jordan and ray allen look the same too... with those bald heads and brown skin! LMAO!!!

    you're a nit who believes with all his heart that he is some type of intellectual authority. guess what? i don't respect you or your opinion, and i don't think many other people here do either.

     




    Actually it looks a lot like him.  Where did you go to college? 

     



    i went to Harvard Law School, graduated at the top of my class.. can you beat that? if you didn't graduate from a more prestigious college then you're a stupid loser! neh neh neh neh neh nehhhhh

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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    i run the federal reserve. can you beat that? if you don't make as much $ as me then you're a loser! neh neh neh neh neh nehhhhhh

     




    NO, I can't because that's a more important job than what I do.

     

    Seriously:

    1. Where did you go to college?

    2.  What do you do for a living?



    dude you're the BURGER KING. nothing is more important than that. by your own rules you have to let me have it my way... i'm the chairman of the Fed and i graduated from Harvard Law at the top of my class... are you lonely sir? i think you may be a bit too old for me :/

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

    how do you go from asking everyone where they are from, to lecturing me about karl marx even though i never mentioned him, to asking me where i work and where i went to school...are we friends? is this a dating site? did i miss something? are you just mentally ill?

    what does any of that have to do with troy brown, wes welker, or you not knowing who peter kropotkin is? 

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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    i run the federal reserve. can you beat that? if you don't make as much $ as me then you're a loser! neh neh neh neh neh nehhhhhh

     




    NO, I can't because that's a more important job than what I do.

     

    Seriously:

    1. Where did you go to college?

    2.  What do you do for a living?

     



    dude you're the BURGER KING. nothing is more important than that. by your own rules you have to let me have it my way... i'm the chairman of the Fed and i graduated from Harvard Law at the top of my class... are you lonely sir? i think you may be a bit too old for me :/

     

     




    Umm, how does that answer 2 very simple questions?

     



    i gave you 2 very simple answers. what kind of answer are you looking for? and why are you so interested?

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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    how do you go from lecturing me about karl marx even though i never mentioned him to asking me where i work and where i went to school...are we friends? is this a dating site? did i miss something? are you just mentally ill?

     




    You don't promote our solicit Socialist ideals here, a political ideology founded by Marx and Engles, with you changing avatars from political figure to political figure on a weekly basis, for attention?

    Really, "Ricky"?

     

    Hmm.

    Yes, I want you to state where you went to college, your major and what you do for a living.

    Every post that goes by where you don't answer simple questions and hide behind a keyboard means you did not go to college and are unemployed/have a crappy job because you never worked for anything. lol

     

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    are you belittling people who didn't go to college, are unemployed, and/or who have low paying jobs? that's not very nice... i always thought the burger king was a nice guy.  :(

     

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

    you're getting really creepy, man. are you really going to keep asking me like some type of rent-a-cop or are you going to get the hint? 

    i don't respect you. i'm not giving you any of my personal information other then what i have already stated openly and to everyone, i live on miami beach. i don't care what kind of assumption you draw by me not answering you. you're a nit. 

    is that clear enough mr. whopper jr.? 

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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    you're getting really creepy, man. are you really going to keep asking me like some type of rent-a-cop or are you going to get the hint? 

    i don't respect you. i'm not giving you any of my personal information other then what i have already stated openly and to everyone, i live on miami beach. i don't care what kind of assumption you draw by me not answering you. you're a nit. 

    is that clear enough mr. whopper jr.? 

     



    How is that "personal info"? I don't care where you live with mommy and daddy, I wan to know a major, a college and a job.

     

    You aren't providing that, which means I've won.

     



    oh you won! darn! i haven't seen that type of reverse psychology since 5th grade! you're so witty! 

    ok ok fine i don't want you to win so i'm going to tell you... i'm the chairman of the Fed and i graduated from Harvard Law at the top of my class. do i win now?! yay!!!!! i win!!! 

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

    oh you wanna turn this into a political argument again? regain your intellectual superiority? yeah! you're the smartest! everyone is below you! sorry this isn't a political thread and i've wasted enough of my life playing along with you. you sound like you already have it all figured out. you're the king! i'm going to take my winnings and leave while i'm ahead. 

    buh bye! and try and get some excercise. you have a fast food mascot as your avatar so that automatically means that you are obese and eat fast food everyday... very unhealthy! the burger kings theory of fast food for the masses just isn't working, dude. i don't know why you are here forcing your fast food agenda on us without knowing what you're talking about. the burger king was a super rich guy who never even took a single bite of fast food!

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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    Tale of the tape

    Troy Brown  

    Height: 5-10   Weight: 196   Age: 41

    Born: 7/2/1971 Barnwell , SC

    College: Marshall

    Experience: 15 Seasons

    REC

    557

    YDS

    6,366

    AVG

    11.4

    TDS

    31

    Receiving Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM 2007 New England Patriots 1 -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --   2006 New England Patriots 16 43 384 8.9 24.0 23 4 2 0 28 0   2005 New England Patriots 13 39 466 11.9 35.8 71 2 4 1 24 0   2004 New England Patriots 12 17 184 10.8 15.3 22 1 2 0 11 0   2003 New England Patriots 12 40 472 11.8 39.3 82T 4 4 2 18 0   2002 New England Patriots 14 97 890 9.2 63.6 38 3 3 0 48 2   2001 New England Patriots 16 101 1,199 11.9 74.9 60T 5 11 3 59 0   2000 New England Patriots 16 83 944 11.4 59.0 44T 4 12 1 45 1   1999 New England Patriots 13 36 471 13.1 36.2 37 1 7 0 23 0   1998 New England Patriots 10 23 346 15.0 34.6 52 1 5 1 14 0   1997 New England Patriots 16 41 607 14.8 37.9 67 6 11 3 23 0   1996 New England Patriots 16 21 222 10.6 13.9 38 0 2 0 10 0   1995 New England Patriots 16 14 159 11.4 9.9 31 0 3 0 7 1   1994 New England Patriots 9 -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --   1993 New England Patriots 12 2 22 11.0 1.8 14 0 0 0 2 0   TOTAL 192 557 6,366 11.4 33.2 82 31 66 11 312 4

    Wes Welker   # WR

    Denver Broncos | Official Team Site

    Height: 5-9   Weight: 185   Age: 31

    Born: 5/1/1981 Oklahoma City , OK

    College: Texas Tech

    Experience: 10th season

    High School: Heritage Hall School [Oklahoma City, OK]

    REC

    118

    YDS

    1,354

    AVG

    11.5

    TDS

    6

    Receiving Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM 2012 New England Patriots 16 118 1,354 11.5 84.6 59 6 13 2 72 2   2011 New England Patriots 16 122 1,569 12.9 98.1 99T 9 21 4 77 0   2010 New England Patriots 15 86 848 9.9 56.5 35 7 6 0 47 0   2009 New England Patriots 14 123 1,348 11.0 96.3 58 4 8 3 71 1   2008 New England Patriots 16 111 1,165 10.5 72.8 64 3 13 1 57 1   2007 New England Patriots 16 112 1,175 10.5 73.4 42 8 10 1 65 2   2006 Miami Dolphins 16 67 687 10.3 42.9 38 1 9 0 33 0   2005 Miami Dolphins 16 29 434 15.0 27.1 47 0 6 2 20 0   2004 Miami Dolphins 14 -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --   2004 San Diego Chargers 1 -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --   TOTAL 140 768 8,580 11.2 61.3 99 38 86 13 442 6
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    Troy Brown. Better in playoffs and played on D as well.

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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    Good question. I love Wes but I'd take Troy if I could only choose one. Troy was money in big games and played defense in a pinch.

     



         Getting a little tired of seeing threads/posts in which people are hating on Wes. Like the rest of you, I'm very unhappy that he's going to be teaming up with the hated Horseface, against our Boys in Blue. But...you can't take away the tremendous contribution that Wes Welker has made to the Patriots over the past 6 years...two key drops notwithstanding. The guy was a sensational player with the Patriots, and likely has another one or two good years left. 

     

         The conventional wisdom in the NFL is that it's better to cast off an aging player a year early, rather than a year too late. You may recall that the Pats let Richard Seymour go, though Sir Richard still had some good football left in him. But...by releasing Seymour sooner rather than later, the Pats were able to add their current starting LT, Nate Solder. Hopefully, Welker's replacement, the younger Danny Amendola, can stay healthy, and pan out for the Pats the way Solder did.

         That said...turning to the Welker/Brown discussion, Troy will always be remembered as one of the main reasons for the Pats winning their first SB title. Whenever I think of Troy, I think of that gorgeous 50 yard punt return for a TD, in the 2001 AFC Title Game, in Pittsburgh...and that catch and run on that crossing pattern in the closing seconds of SB 36...to set up Adam Vinatieri's game winning 48 yard FG. I also think of that regular season OT win in Miami, when Troy won the game, after hauling in a Brady bomb.

         When I think of Wes...I think of consistentcy, quickness, steadiness, and moving the chains, to keep the Pats' offense on schedule. A bad drop in the 2012 AFC Title Game, and the failure to haul in a tough catch in SB 46, to me, doesn't detract. But, had Wes made that catch, he'd have his highlight reel play, and would still be a Patriot. He would also have likely earned a bust in Cooperstown.

         It's too bad that many Pats fans will only remember Welker for those drops. Wes will be playing for a chance to erase those blotches on his career resume with a SB win next season, in Denver. It's also a shame that we Patriot fans have been placed in a position where we must root strongly against him.       

     

     

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

    it's too bad wes made those big time drops and etched them into my memory. i'm sure once fantasy football rolls around i'll look at wes from your perspective, a regular season stat machine. but right now, as a patriots fan, all i remember are the game changing/SB losing drops.

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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         Getting a little tired of seeing threads/posts in which people are hating on Wes. Like the rest of you, I'm very unhappy that he's going to be teaming up with the hated Horseface, against our Boys in Blue. But...you can't take away the tremendous contribution that Wes Welker has made to the Patriots over the past 6 years...two key drops notwithstanding. The guy was a sensational player with the Patriots, and likely has another one or two good years left. 

     

         The conventional wisdom in the NFL is that it's better to cast off an aging player a year early, rather than a year too late. You may recall that the Pats let Richard Seymour go, though Sir Richard still had some good football left in him. But...by releasing Seymour sooner rather than later, the Pats were able to add their current starting LT, Nate Solder. Hopefully, Welker's replacement, the younger Danny Amendola, can stay healthy, and pan out for the Pats the way Solder did.

         That said...turning to the Welker/Brown discussion, Troy will always be remembered as one of the main reasons for the Pats winning their first SB title. Whenever I think of Troy, I think of that gorgeous 50 yard punt return for a TD, in the 2001 AFC Title Game, in Pittsburgh...and that catch and run on that crossing pattern in the closing seconds of SB 36...to set up Adam Vinatieri's game winning 48 yard FG. I also think of that regular season OT win in Miami, when Troy won the game, after hauling in a Brady bomb.

         When I think of Wes...I think of consistentcy, quickness, steadiness, and moving the chains, to keep the Pats' offense on schedule. A bad drop in the 2012 AFC Title Game, and the failure to haul in a tough catch in SB 46, to me, doesn't detract. But, had Wes made that catch, he'd have his highlight reel play, and would still be a Patriot. He would also have likely earned a bust in Cooperstown.

         It's too bad that many Pats fans will only remember Welker for those drops. Wes will be playing for a chance to erase those blotches on his career resume with a SB win next season, in Denver.         


    Great freaking post TexasPat!! Respect!

    btw TP... Have you changed your mind yet on playing Fantasy Football with us this season?

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

    I'm getting a kick seeing Rusty and Godvernment going at it.  Pretty entertaining!!  Has Rusty ever said where he went to college and what he does for a living?  Just wondering.

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

    This thread has certainly taken a life of it's own.. Great post TP.. I think you said everything perfectly..

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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    dude you're the BURGER KING. nothing is more important than that. by your own rules you have to let me have it my way... i'm the chairman of the Fed and i graduated from Harvard Law at the top of my class... are you lonely sir? i think you may be a bit too old for me :/




    In response to Godvernment's comment:

    how do you go from asking everyone where they are from, to lecturing me about karl marx even though i never mentioned him, to asking me where i work and where i went to school...are we friends? is this a dating site? did i miss something? are you just mentally ill?

    what does any of that have to do with troy brown, wes welker, or you not knowing who peter kropotkin is?

     

    Hahahaha!! These comments have me rolling!!

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

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         Getting a little tired of seeing threads/posts in which people are hating on Wes. Like the rest of you, I'm very unhappy that he's going to be teaming up with the hated Horseface, against our Boys in Blue. But...you can't take away the tremendous contribution that Wes Welker has made to the Patriots over the past 6 years...two key drops notwithstanding. The guy was a sensational player with the Patriots, and likely has another one or two good years left. 

     

         The conventional wisdom in the NFL is that it's better to cast off an aging player a year early, rather than a year too late. You may recall that the Pats let Richard Seymour go, though Sir Richard still had some good football left in him. But...by releasing Seymour sooner rather than later, the Pats were able to add their current starting LT, Nate Solder. Hopefully, Welker's replacement, the younger Danny Amendola, can stay healthy, and pan out for the Pats the way Solder did.

         That said...turning to the Welker/Brown discussion, Troy will always be remembered as one of the main reasons for the Pats winning their first SB title. Whenever I think of Troy, I think of that gorgeous 50 yard punt return for a TD, in the 2001 AFC Title Game, in Pittsburgh...and that catch and run on that crossing pattern in the closing seconds of SB 36...to set up Adam Vinatieri's game winning 48 yard FG. I also think of that regular season OT win in Miami, when Troy won the game, after hauling in a Brady bomb.

         When I think of Wes...I think of consistentcy, quickness, steadiness, and moving the chains, to keep the Pats' offense on schedule. A bad drop in the 2012 AFC Title Game, and the failure to haul in a tough catch in SB 46, to me, doesn't detract. But, had Wes made that catch, he'd have his highlight reel play, and would still be a Patriot. He would also have likely earned a bust in Cooperstown.

         It's too bad that many Pats fans will only remember Welker for those drops. Wes will be playing for a chance to erase those blotches on his career resume with a SB win next season, in Denver.         

     

     


    Great freaking post TexasPat!! Respect!

    btw TP... Have you changed your mind yet on playing Fantasy Football with us this season?

     



         Yes...I'm willing to play, provided you team me up with fellow poster, NE Game! Now that would be well worth fantacizing over!

         LOL!!!  

     

     
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         Yes...I'm willing to play, provided you team me up with fellow poster, NE Game! Now that would be well worth fantacizing over!

         LOL!!!  

     



    Hahaha! 

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

    Brown by far, it's not close. Wes was a great Patriot but Brown was an all timer on so many levels. 

    This thread proves it. Only a compulsive contrarian like TexasPat and the expected TFB disagrees. 

    "I'm getting a kick seeing Rusty and Godvernment going at it.  Pretty entertaining!!  "

    I thought it was tedious. 

    I have yet to see any value Godvermin brings to this forum and the political drivel is useless to me, not why we're here. 

    As frustrating as Rusty can be he's brought way more solid football content than G, even on this thread. 

     

     
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    Re: Who was a better player Troy Brown or Wes Welker?

     

    Silly question, what next? Rodney Harrison vs. Merriweather and Chung? 

     

    Not even TFB can pick Wes...