who would be YOUR all pro team of the decade?

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    who would be YOUR all pro team of the decade?

    I love discussions like this, because everyone has their own opinions. Its been an awesome decade! Cant wait to see what the next decade will bring!

    Quarterback-Tom Brady- How can I not pick take this guy? Some people may argue about Peyton Manning, but not only does Tom Brady have the best winning percetange ever as a starting quarterback but hes also 14-3 in the playoffs, while Peyton Manning is only 7-8. Tom brady was the clutchest quarterback of the decade.

    Running Back- Ladaninan Tomlinson- I dont think this is even arguable. In his prime, there havent been many better than LT. His ability to run in between the tackles, run away from defensive backs, catch the ball out of the backfield, and just be an overall workhorse, was unmatched this decade.

    Wide Receivers- Randy Moss- The best deep threat ever. His size speed and leaping ability made him a nightmare for opposing defensive coordinators and defensive backs. One of the most dominating players ever to play, his presense alone demands a double team every single play (even now and hes 30+). When you really think about what he brings to the table and his production over the course of his career, had he been traded straight from minnesota to new england instead of those 3 years @ oakland, he might be mentioned as one of the top 5 PLAYERS ever to play.

    Marvin Harrison- This was a tough decision. I think Hines Ward, Terrel Owens, Torry Holt can all be mentioned in the same regard as Marvin. But i chose Marvin because of his route running ability, consisten hands, incredibly reliable. He had 143 catches in one season, thats incredible.

    Tight End- Tony Gonzalez- Became the all time leader in receptions, touchdowns and yards, thats basicaly all that needs to be said.

    FullBack- Lorenzo Neal- LT needs to buy this man a rolex. Lorenzo Neal is a lead blocking machine.

    Left Tackle
    - Walter Jones- Not only is he a 9 time pro bowler and a 7 time all-pro, but Mike Holgrem said "hes the best offensive player i have ever coached" thats saying something.

    Left Guard- Steve Hutchinson-He was a dominant guard for seattle during the shaun alexander era, and was a huge pick-up for Minnesota. He is still one of the better guards in the league.

    Center-Kevin Mawae- Future hall of famer, had  a great career with the jets, and is still very productive with Tennesee even though he is getting long in the tooth.

    Right Guard- Alan Faneca- Very tough, glass-eater type of football player. Eight time pro-bowler, won a ring with the Steelers, and is not with one of the best Offensive lines in the league, the Jets.

    Right Tackle- Johnathan Ogden- I couldnt leave him out. Future Hall of Famer, dominated the left side with the ravens for years!

    Defensive Ends- Michael Strahan- very balanced defensive player, dominating pass rusher and strong against the run. Was a big reason why the giants won the super bowl, he had two sacks in the game.

    Dwight Freeney- Consistent pass rusher. Put the "spin move" into the forefront of pass rushing moves. He made really good tackles look below average. He is what really makes the colts defense click.

    Defensive Tackles- Warren Sapp- In his prime, was widely viewed as the most dominating defensive lineman of his era. He is a big reason why they won the super bowl. His size and quickness off the snap were a unique combination.

    Ted Washington- The best nose tackle ever. Dominated with the bears, he is what really helped Brian Urlacher become a premier player. Was a domanitaing nose tackle with the patriots, where he won a super bowl. I think every 3-4 defense looks for a nose tackle like Ted Washington. He was the ideal nose.

    Outside linebackers- Mike Vrable- One of the most versatile players ever to play. He was a solid pass rusher, but was great against the run, set the edge very well. An overall playmaker, who lined up at tight end, and caught 11 touchdowns. Was apart of the core of players of the patriots dynasty.

    Derrick Brooks- A tackling machine, and a good overall leader with Tampa Bay. Great outside linebacker in the "tampa-two" defense. He was a defensive player of the year in 2002.

    Middle Linebacker- Ray Lewis- I truly believe he is the best defensive player ever to play. He is the ultimate leader. He was the best player on the defense of the decade. Super Bowl mvp. Defensive player of the year. He has several accolades, but when you take into account what he really brings to the table; warrior mentality, extremely wise, an all time leader, not to mention an incredible physical specimen, i believe he is the best defender ever. This video backs up my opinion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxlSqEHwQFs

    Cornerbacks- Champ Bailey- The best shut down corner since Deion Sanders. Quarterbacks fiered throwing the ball his way. Possibly the best corner overall of the decade.

    Ty Law- Different style than Champ Bailey. Much more physical at the line of scrimagge. Shut down Marvin Harrison plenty of times, with his physical approach. Made clutch plays throughout the decade. Pick six against the rams in the super bowl, 3 picks in one game against the colts in the playoffs. Great player, in my opinion, he is underrated.

    Safeties- Ed reed- Arguably the most skilled player of the decade, Ed Reed is master ball-hawk. He can change the course of a game, every time a ball gets thrown his way. Once he has the ball in his hands, he is ELECTRIC. Future hall of famer.


    Brian Dawkins- Emotional leader, passionate about the game. Possibly the best blitzing safety ever to play. He is all over the field. Everyone should see this video to fully appreciate Brian Dawkins.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO-EekXOZC4

    kicker- Adam Vinatieri- The best field goal kicker ever. Clutch should be his middle name. The kick against oakland in 2001 in the snow, is legendary. Then he followed that up with game winning kicks in 2 super bowls. Hall of fame kicker.

    Punter- Brian Moorman- Perrenial Pro bowler, plus hes pretty fast for a punter.


    Kick returner/punt returner- Devin Hester- He is just a special returner, the move to receiver has slowed his returning abilities down, but when he was just a returner, no one can argue that he was extremely special.


    Special Teams Specialist- Larry Izzo- he was a special teams captain for the patriots throughout the dynasty.


    Dont hesitate to make your own list!!
    Thoughts?







     
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    Re: who would be YOUR all pro team of the decade?

    I think that's a very good list.  One thing that makes doing this difficult is that teams run different personnel schemes, and 3-4 lineman kind of let left out to dry because their numbers aren't as flashy as 4-3 ends like Strahan and Freeney.  I say this because (whether I'm a homer or not) I think Seymour belongs somewhere on the decade's defensive team.  I'd put him there instead of Sapp.

    I similarly think it's really hard to keep Troy Polamalu off the list, but where to put him?  Reed and Dawkins are great, I just might put Polamalu ahead of Dawkins.  Close call, though.
     
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    Be back later to weigh in (work 6-11)

    Quickly, I'd take Jon Ogden over Walter Jones.  When you create a player on Madden to play left tackle and make him as big, jacked, strong, agile, etc as possible, you create Jon Ogden.  He was a physical phenomenon who once had the athleticism when younger to play guard despite being 6'9" and 330+ pounds.  Ridiculous.

    For center, I'd take the Colts' Jeff Saturday over dirty, chop-blocking, knee-injuring Kevin Mawae any day of the week.  He never gets enough credit for directing a Colts line that has made Peyton Manning's Hall of Fame numbers possible.  He also gets the job done without injuring other players (like [Mawae injured] Seymour['s knee]).
     
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    Overall, if you are comparing your list to the one Peter King put out, it can be a coin flip for many positions.

    Why did Manning win out over Brady, pretty much for his statistical edge not post season heroics.  You can't lose with either player.  Running backs, there are so many to chose from.  If you looked at a similar polls for this in other regions, they will be all over the place and you will see some regional favoritism, no doubt.  One thing I can say, I believe there will be some level of discrimination towards Patriots players more than most due to how much of the country feels toward this organization.  Besides, how many HoF players have been on the Pats this decade compared to other teams.  Not many!
     
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    I think that's a very good list.  One thing that makes doing this difficult is that teams run different personnel schemes, and 3-4 lineman kind of let left out to dry because their numbers aren't as flashy as 4-3 ends like Strahan and Freeney.  I say this because (whether I'm a homer or not) I think Seymour belongs somewhere on the decade's defensive team.  I'd put him there instead of Sapp. I similarly think it's really hard to keep Troy Polamalu off the list, but where to put him?  Reed and Dawkins are great, I just might put Polamalu ahead of Dawkins.  Close call, though.
    Posted by pyegian

     yea i see where you are coming from when it comes to Richard Seymour, i think potentialy he could have been a better defensive tackle than sapp, but based on production i chose sapp specificaly at d-tackle. I do think seymour is the better overall player because of his versatility, he can play end on a 3-4 and d-tackle in a 4-3. But was seymour a better d-tackle than sapp? thats hard
     
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    Be back later to weigh in (work 6-11) Quickly, I'd take Jon Ogden over Walter Jones.  When you create a player on Madden to play left tackle and make him as big, jacked, strong, agile, etc as possible, you create Jon Ogden.  He was a physical phenomenon who once had the athleticism when younger to play guard despite being 6'9" and 330+ pounds.  Ridiculous. For center, I'd take the Colts' Jeff Saturday over dirty, chop-blocking, knee-injuring Kevin Mawae any day of the week.  He never gets enough credit for directing a Colts line that has made Peyton Manning's Hall of Fame numbers possible.  He also gets the job done without injuring other players (like Seymour).
    Posted by NickC1188


    yea, jeff saturday would have been a good choice too.
     
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    I like your list for the most part.

    I'll add to my quips:  I don't think Ted Washington deserves to be on this list because he wasn't playing for most of the decade (retired in 2004).  Kevin Williams, Pat Williams, Marcus Stroud, Mark Henderson, and Kris Jenkins should be considered instead.  Wilfork has quietly had a good decade, and Jamal Williams of the Chargers should also be a nominee.  Casey Hampton of the Steelers never gets mentioned but is very good at keeping their star linebackers free to roam, Sam Adams formerly of the Bills and Ravens was also good for a larger portion of the decade than Ted Washington (and featured on the Ravens' record-setting Super Bowl team in 2000).  Shaun Rogers was a beast on some really bad Lions teams and is still a beast on some really bad Browns teams, and has NO HELP around him.  Tommie Harris does good things in Chicago.  I'd go with Jenkins - his success has transcended formations and techniques (4-3 one gap and 3-4 two gap), teams (Panthers and Jets) and the players next to him (Peppers in Carolina, Shaun Ellis in NY).  The Williams play together on Minnesota; Stroud and Henderson dominated the middle together in Jacksonville before Stroud was traded (Henderson is still there).

    I don't like Vrabel being All-Decade for the NFL - he was a great team guy, but I never thought he was spectacular.  I'd think about DeMarcus Ware there instead, and also consider Lance Briggs of the Bears.  Julian Peterson, who's now a little washed up in Detroit, was also a great OLB for the 49ers for most of this decade.  I also find myself impressed by Keith Bullock every time I see him play for the Titans (good numbers, but even better to watch in person - I always find myself impressed with a tipped ball, a coverage on a tight end, or a great read on a play fake or draw that doesn't show up on the stat sheet, like his tipped pass against the Texans where he leaped to force a punt on third down when the tight end was racing down the seam and the safety hadn't gotten there yet).  Out of that group, I'd take Bullock because this is a 4-3 all-decade team, but Ware will probably be on next decade's squad if his neck is alright.

    I didn't realize you put Ogden on the right side.  My mistake.  It's really difficult to snub Willie Roaf of the Chiefs at left tackle, but there were a few truly great, Hall of Fame level tackles this decade.  For true right tackles who played the right side, I'd take Willie Anderson of the Bengals.

    For punters, I'd take Scifres of the Chargers over Moorman.  Sure, Moorman has a boot, but if you watched the Chargers' playoff game last year against the Colts, Scifres single-handedly altered field position by consistently pinning the Colts inside their 10 with punts that died and coffin corner kicks.

    And defensive end: Jason Taylor.  I'd take him over Dwight Freeney any day of the week - Freeney still can't defend the run.  Taylor in his prime had it all.
     
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    Great list. only changes few changes.

    Coach: BB
    QB: Put both Brady and Manning.  taking one or the other isn't right.

    add Punt Returner: Dante Hall.  people forget he was unreal.

    Instead of WR Marvin Harrison, I would take Torry Holt.  he played with Warner for short time and got stuck with marc bulger and he was still amazing.

    3rd Down RB: Kevin Faulk.  ha i had to get him in the list. 

    other than that, great list.
     
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    I like your list for the most part. I'll add to my quips:  I don't think Ted Washington deserves to be on this list because he wasn't playing for most of the decade (retired in 2004).   Kevin Williams , Pat Williams , Marcus Stroud , Mark Henderson , and Kris Jenkins should be considered instead.   Wilfork has quietly had a good decade, and Jamal William s of the Chargers should also be a nominee.   Casey Hampton of the Steelers never gets mentioned but is very good at keeping their star linebackers free to roam, Sam Adams formerly of the Bills and Ravens was also good for a larger portion of the decade than Ted Washington (and featured on the Ravens' record-setting Super Bowl team in 2000).   Shaun Rogers was a beast on some really bad Lions teams and is still a beast on some really bad Browns teams, and has NO HELP around him.   Tommie Harris does good things in Chicago.  I'd go with Jenkins - his success has transcended formations and techniques (4-3 one gap and 3-4 two gap), teams (Panthers and Jets) and the players next to him (Peppers in Carolina, Shaun Ellis in NY).  The Williams play together on Minnesota; Stroud and Henderson dominated the middle together in Jacksonville before Stroud was traded (Henderson is still there). I don't like Vrabel being All-Decade for the NFL - he was a great team guy, but I never thought he was spectacular.  I'd think about DeMarcus Ware there instead, and also consider Lance Briggs of the Bears.   Julian Peterson , who's now a little washed up in Detroit, was also a great OLB for the 49ers for most of this decade.  I also find myself impressed by Keith Bullock every time I see him play for the Titans (good numbers, but even better to watch in person - I always find myself impressed with a tipped ball, a coverage on a tight end, or a great read on a play fake or draw that doesn't show up on the stat sheet, like his tipped pass against the Texans where he leaped to force a punt on third down when the tight end was racing down the seam and the safety hadn't gotten there yet).  Out of that group, I'd take Bullock because this is a 4-3 all-decade team, but Ware will probably be on next decade's squad if his neck is alright. I didn't realize you put Ogden on the right side.  My mistake.  It's really difficult to snub Willie Roaf of the Chiefs at left tackle, but there were a few truly great, Hall of Fame level tackles this decade.  For true right tackles who played the right side, I'd take Willie Anderson of the Bengals. For punters, I'd take Scifres of the Chargers over Moorman.  Sure, Moorman has a boot, but if you watched the Chargers' playoff game last year against the Colts, Scifres single-handedly altered field position by consistently pinning the Colts inside their 10 with punts that died and coffin corner kicks. And defensive end: Jason Taylor .  I'd take him over Dwight Freeney any day of the week - Freeney still can't defend the run.  Taylor in his prime had it all.
    Posted by NickC1188


    I see where you're coming from with all of those defensive tackles, i chose  ted washington because i feel like hes the godfather of all nose tackles today. but i do agree with you, pat williams and casey hampton are two good arguments.

    Also jason taylor over dwight freeney is a good argument as well.

    I chose vrable becuase he was a huge contributor at outside linebacker in a dynasty, plus he played well throughout the decade, i dont think ware deserves to be on this list, he hasnt played long enough to jump past vrable on my book.
     
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    Re: who would be YOUR all pro team of the decade?

    The only problem I have with teams of the decade is how arbritrary a decade is.  Someone like Marshall faulk who played half of two decades is sort of disqualified because he didn't start his career at the beginning of a decade. 

    That said I would agree with almost all your picks.  It's hard to go against Harrrison but I would give the edge to Owens.  When looking at the last ten years Moss led the league in TD's 3 times, Owens 3 times and nobody else more than once.



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