Who would you give up our 1st rounder for????

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    Who would you give up our 1st rounder for????

    I would love to Marshawn Lynch in New England.
     
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    I actually started a discussion on Lynch to NE. I would love to see him in NE. Some thing that you have wrong, which is a good thing, is that he may on cost at most a 4th rounder because of his off field problems. But ya i'd love 2 see him in NE.
     
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    The Draft is so deep I honestly have no intrest in using our #1 on anyone outside the draft.  The only deal I was willing to make was a Second rounder Preferably #53 no higher then #48 for Boldin. But since we didn't get him I am more than happy to go to the draft and use those 4 high picks on guys that likely all grade out as first rounders on most years. That is how deep this draft is they are saying it is about 50 players deep in first round tallent.
     
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    I would trade down for extra picks in later rds for this year and next.  Because that seems to be the trend.
     
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    I'd give up a 1st round pick for the following players that would be impact  players from game 1. Though Hutch is getting old he is a beast at Guard which we need some help with

    Peterson RB
    Johnson  RB
    Revis      CB
    Hutchinson G
    Willis LB
    Ware DE/LB
     
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    I would trade down for extra picks in later rds for this year and next.  Because that seems to be the trend.
    Posted by BBRULES23



    on this one, i absolutely agree with you. i don't know if the values work out, but it would be great to get a third and 5th this year (assuming this draft is as deep as everyone says it is - i actually think the depth is overrated), in addition to a first in 2012. with two first rounders in 2011, they don't need a third first round pick. besides, that all would be wasted if there is work stoppage. if there are no disruptions, you have two first round picks on each of the first two years of an era of rookie salary caps.

     
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    A bonafide pass rusher who is locked up, and big enough to flex into a 43 end, but fast enough to be a full time OLB, and loose enough to spot cover. Demarcus Ware I guess? Terrell Suggs? 

    The problem is that neither of these guys would cost that little. In  fact, neither team would be likely to trade either. 

    Someone like Dumerviol, who is a bit small to play that role, isn't locked. 

    The point is, you don't trade picks for a player who is not locked, because their agent will only want them to be a FA next season, in which case you are putting yourself in a very bad situation. 

    Oh, and you don't pay picks for a player who could wind up in prison. 
     
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    And Lynch isn't even worth a third rounder. He gets less reps now than Fred Jackson.
     
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    yeah. if they were really worth a first they would probably not be available
     
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    Oh yeah, no way a first rounder for Marshawn!!! just a general statement!

    I would give up for:

    Willis
    Ware
    CJ
    AP

    But its to valuable to waste on anyone else really. Alot of people are bummed about our lack of FA external signings or trades, however I am so happy that we currently hold ALL of our picks. And I hope we use them all in the coming draft. Lots of talent to be had.

    Im more than happy about re-signing our own players :D

     
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    Ware or Willis
     
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    No one.  Use this pick and nail down a tremendous pass rusher like Brandon Graham.

    Since 3 second rounder's - I'd be willing to move one of these for a RFA and or trade with another team. 
    Maybe at some point IF Brandon Marshall's Stock 'drops' - maybe Denver would be willing to part ways for him for a 2nd rounder. (again, big Maybe!)  That way the pats can still pick their 1st rounder and 2 second rd picks along with a WR like him...
     
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    ZBELL you need to do your homework because you have no idea what your talking about. Neither Ware or Suggs would be effective in/as a 43 end , let alone in coverage. It amazes me that some actually value your worthless thoughts/opinions. You dont get/trade for DWARE to stack him against a LT 12-15 times a game or have him drop back in coverage against Dallas Clark or Ronnie Brown coming out of the back field. Nice try though , if I were you Id stay on here and talk football with nitwits all day , instead of sitting at the big boys table. And seriously lose that photo , after reading your post it just confirms the fact that your a D BAAGGGG!

     
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    Seriously you guys are lost here! Why would any of you guys waste a first rounder on a projected OLB when there has been so MANY bust in the past 5-6 years. And please tell me what seperates Graham from Kindle or Hughes? ...Nothing! None of these guys are worth a first , all scream second round. Hey Id love to grab Marshell for a second , but even a first would be a steal for a top 5 guy. BTW Im not sure if anyones noticed , but we have no wideouts LOL! If Marshell were in this years draft he'd be a top ten pick , getting him for a late round first would be huge. This draft isnt nearly as deep as some would lead you to believe. It has depth if your talking about the second , but there are only 15-20 guys that are really worth a first round pick and most of them are all OT/DT.
     
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    CaptainZdeno is the closest one on the money thus far...

    ~So, IF I actually was going to give up my 1st rd pick from Oakland of the 2011 Draft (according to this theory), I'M selling it for a #10-#15 Pick in the 1st Round of THIS 2010 Draft. 

    And so with THAT #10-#15 pick I'm selecting either WR Dez Bryant OR DE-OLB convert Brandon Graham

    In either case, I'm THEN drafting Jared Odrick @ #22 of Round 1 with NE's pick

    THEN I'm taking as BOTH my 7th rders, my one 6th rder and a future 3rd or 4th rder of the 2011 Draft and bundling them ALL together to ideally trade with a willing partner like Kansas City or Tampa Bay, 2 Teams that need a decent amount of parts and 2 Teams who are already sitting pretty with numerous early-mid round selctions (KC & TB both have two 2nd rders)-
         Plus I'm reminding KC what a sweet deal I gave them with the Cassel/Vrabel trade, and/or I'm reminding TB that, C'mon you guys need major parts, so be honest: Your team has no shot this year, but with these picks you'll be able to get core guys by being power draft pawn brokers for years (same with you, cr#ppy KC!).  
         So again, after I whisper those sweet words in both of their ears, One of them WILL undoubtedly yield to the hooded one's jedi-mind control, As one of EITHER KC or TB is now giving me their #35 (Rd 2-TB) or the #36 (Rd 2-KC) FOR that slew of picks (NE's one 6th, two 7ths, and a future either 3rd or 4th of 2011).

    So NOW, I have the following 2nd rd picks:  Either TB's #35 or KC's #36 AND NE's own #44, #47, and #53....alright?

    IF I drafted WR Dez Bryant, then I'm drafting OLB Jerry Hughes @ #35/#36.
    IF I drafted OLB Brandon Graham, then I'm drafting WR Arrelious Benn or WR Damian Williams (WR Brandon LaFell is option too).

    THEN @ #44 & #47 I'm securing BOTH Strongside ILB Brandon Spikes AND OT Jared Veldheer.

    THEN @ #53 I'm securing any number of guys I like, either OLB Koa Misi (for LB depth), OR Alex Carrington (for DE depth), OR the best CB who has slipped in Donovan Warren, OR the best RB still on the board in Montarrio Hardesty (@ 6'0ft 225lbs and with a 4.49 40-great fit for NE's smaller O-Line that blocks in (or at least did I believe) in a semblance of a zone schematic-fast enough for homerun threat, big enough to be that between-the-tackle banger who won't get arm tackled by gap-penetrating DTs who simply want to limit Brady's pocket prescence of stepping up as he does, and who have NO fear as it stands now of Maroney's size and hesitancy while waiting for holes to develop)...
         Heck, with that last 2nd Rd pick and RE: the guys I'm going to draft with that #53 pick of Rd 2, NE very well may be able to move down a bit no prob., and STILL get ANY of those guys as Misi, Carrington, Warren, & Hardesty are projected 3rd-early 4th rders...So, IF NE was able to move down and certainly pick up a late 4th or early 5th rders this year, I'm ALSO selecting WR Eric Decker out of Minnesotta right there, for depth.

    THEN Finally, with NE's 4th rder, I'm selecting TE Dennis Pitta of BYU (6'4ft 245lbs and 4.63 40), and although he doesn't have the height and girth I ideally want, This dude's strong as he!! and a year ago led ALL Div 1 TE's in yards, receiving and TDs...and he's a work-ethic nut and selfless team-player.  Same goes for Eric Decker, who I might simply secure with NE's 4th rder here and sign some nominal NFL vet blocking TE in free agency, fearless over middle, NFL-esque route trees, and selfless & very intelligent team guy.

    FINAL TALLY:
    CASE #1:  WR Dez Bryant, DE Jared Odrick, OLB Jerry Hughes, ILB Brandon Spikes, OT Jared Veldheer, RB Montario Hardesty (or CB Donovan Warren, DE Alex Carrington, OLB Koa Misi), and TE Dennis Pitta Or/but-also-could-be-AND WR Eric Decker
    Case #2:  OLB Brandon Graham, DE Jared Odrick, WR Arrelious Benn (or WR Damian Williams, WR Brandon LaFell), ILB Brandon Spikes, OT Jared Veldheer, RB Montario Hardesty (or CB Donnovan Warren, DE Alex Carrington, OLB Koa Misi), and TE Dennis Pitta Or/but coul-be-AND WR Eric Decker.

    ~So Whoo-HOO!  I just single-handedly secured a sick #2 WR (and probably a depth WR off the bench), a starting OLB pass-rushing specialist, a 3-4 starting DE, a strongside ILB to team with Mayo, oh-and a starting right OT when Matt Light shows He's still awful even after I move him to right OT after Vollmer takes over the left spot, AND a Corey Dillion-esque inside banger to wear down opposing D's and be a threat in himself to team with Maroney or imo BJGE, AND also- just maybe a TE too....

    SB here we come!  
     
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    Standing O for that write up Lazar!  Good stuff, does that come with a Map? lol.

    I like case #2 better, Brandon Graham! this guy is all that! I like D Williams as a WR in 2nd rd!  we'll see though....
     
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    CaptainZdeno is the closest one on the money thus far... ~ So, IF I actually was going to give up my 1st rd pick from Oakland of the 2011 Draft (according to this theory), I'M selling it for a #10-#15 Pick in the 1st Round of THIS 2010 Draft.  And so with THAT #10-#15 pick I'm selecting either WR Dez Bryant OR DE-OLB convert Brandon Graham In either case, I'm THEN drafting Jared Odrick @ #22 of Round 1 with NE's pick THEN I'm taking as BOTH my 7th rders, my one 6th rder and a future 3rd or 4th rder of the 2011 Draft and bundling them ALL together to ideally trade with a willing partner like Kansas City or Tampa Bay, 2 Teams that need a decent amount of parts and 2 Teams who are already sitting pretty with numerous early-mid round selctions (KC & TB both have two 2nd rders)-      Plus I'm reminding KC what a sweet deal I gave them with the Cassel/Vrabel trade, and/or I'm reminding TB that, C'mon you guys need major parts, so be honest: Your team has no shot this year, but with these picks you'll be able to get core guys by being power draft pawn brokers for years (same with you, cr#ppy KC!).        So again, after I whisper those sweet words in both of their ears, One of them WILL undoubtedly yield to the hooded one's jedi-mind control, As one of EITHER KC or TB is now giving me their #35 (Rd 2-TB) or the #36 (Rd 2-KC) FOR that slew of picks (NE's one 6th, two 7ths, and a future either 3rd or 4th of 2011). So NOW, I have the following 2nd rd picks:  Either TB's #35 or KC's #36 AND NE's own #44, #47, and #53....alright? IF I drafted WR Dez Bryant, then I'm drafting OLB Jerry Hughes @ #35/#36. IF I drafted OLB Brandon Graham, then I'm drafting WR Arrelious Benn or WR Damian Williams (WR Brandon LaFell is option too). THEN @ #44 & #47 I'm securing BOTH Strongside ILB Brandon Spikes AND OT Jared Veldheer. THEN @ #53 I'm securing any number of guys I like, either OLB Koa Misi (for LB depth), OR Alex Carrington (for DE depth), OR the best CB who has slipped in Donovan Warren, OR the best RB still on the board in Montarrio Hardesty (@ 6'0ft 225lbs and with a 4.49 40-great fit for NE's smaller O-Line that blocks in (or at least did I believe) in a semblance of a zone schematic-fast enough for homerun threat, big enough to be that between-the-tackle banger who won't get arm tackled by gap-penetrating DTs who simply want to limit Brady's pocket prescence of stepping up as he does, and who have NO fear as it stands now of Maroney's size and hesitancy while waiting for holes to develop)...      Heck, with that last 2nd Rd pick and RE: the guys I'm going to draft with that #53 pick of Rd 2, NE very well may be able to move down a bit no prob., and STILL get ANY of those guys as Misi, Carrington, Warren, & Hardesty are projected 3rd-early 4th rders...So, IF NE was able to move down and certainly pick up a late 4th or early 5th rders this year, I'm ALSO selecting WR Eric Decker out of Minnesotta right there, for depth. THEN Finally, with NE's 4th rder, I'm selecting TE Dennis Pitta of BYU (6'4ft 245lbs and 4.63 40), and although he doesn't have the height and girth I ideally want, This dude's strong as he!! and a year ago led ALL Div 1 TE's in yards, receiving and TDs...and he's a work-ethic nut and selfless team-player.  Same goes for Eric Decker, who I might simply secure with NE's 4th rder here and sign some nominal NFL vet blocking TE in free agency, fearless over middle, NFL-esque route trees, and selfless & very intelligent team guy. FINAL TALLY : CASE #1 :  WR Dez Bryant, DE Jared Odrick, OLB Jerry Hughes, ILB Brandon Spikes, OT Jared Veldheer, RB Montario Hardesty (or CB Donovan Warren, DE Alex Carrington, OLB Koa Misi), and TE Dennis Pitta Or/but-also-could-be-AND WR Eric Decker Case #2 :  OLB Brandon Graham, DE Jared Odrick, WR Arrelious Benn (or WR Damian Williams, WR Brandon LaFell), ILB Brandon Spikes, OT Jared Veldheer, RB Montario Hardesty (or CB Donnovan Warren, DE Alex Carrington, OLB Koa Misi), and TE Dennis Pitta Or/but coul-be-AND WR Eric Decker. ~ So Whoo-HOO!  I just single-handedly secured a sick #2 WR (and probably a depth WR off the bench), a starting OLB pass-rushing specialist, a 3-4 starting DE, a strongside ILB to team with Mayo, oh-and a starting right OT when Matt Light shows He's still awful even after I move him to right OT after Vollmer takes over the left spot, AND a Corey Dillion-esque inside banger to wear down opposing D's and be a threat in himself to team with Maroney or imo BJGE, AND also- just maybe a TE too.... SB here we come!  
    Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium




    WOW, thats pretty damn impressive, theory. I like it! Not sure if it can happen but I like it.
     
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    Thanx NOISE and datdude...  So on and so on, betta' not le'me roll on, I rememba' back in da days when I used ta have ta get my stroll on; Did' no'body wanna speak, now ever'body beepin' out der XP windows when I creepin' down BDC-streets, 'Is it Laz, is it Laz?' Dat's what dey say, every singl' m'fn day; But yo I ain't trippin' I'm jus' kickin' it, as dese posta's keep grinnin'-I be rollin' in my taurus '94 (with a tapped up sunroof)... 
     
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    I would love to Marshawn Lynch in New England.
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    Stop posting.
     
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    THE PLAYER WITH THE STRONGEST LEADERSHIP QUALIFICATIONS. WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES THE PATIOTS WITH THIS BIG, UGLY HOLE IN THE CENTER OF THEIR DEFENSE?   PROBABLY THE SMARTEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT, AND AT 6'2", 215 LBS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST SAFETY'S THAT STRENGTHS ARE SURE TACKLING, COVERING RECEIVERS AND READING DEFENSES. MYRON ROLLE.
     
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    brandon marshall obvsly

    or jonathan stewart

    almost every teams 2nd and 3rd string RB's

    are better than are starters!!
     
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    Back at ya big fella!
     
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