In Response to Why Brandon Lloyd Will Fail With The New England Patriots
[QUOTE]I disagree with this article but wanted to see others opinions on it. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1146591-why-new-england-patriots-wr-brandon-lloyd-will-fail-in-2012
Posted by DoNotSleepOnThePats[/QUOTE]
Here's the text of the article...with my comments in bold black:
There are a lot of things the New England Patriots do well. They never turn the ball over, they coach-up poor defenses, make it to Super Bowls, control the media and videotape signals as well as anyone.
RESPONSE: The seemingly obligatory "spygate" swipe has grown very old.
However, the residents of Gillette Stadium seem to be allergic to signing and developing successful wide receivers. The list of failed free-agent pickups and trades at the position reads like a veritable who's who of has-beens, never-weres and failed experiments. Why should we believe that Brandon Lloyd will be any different?
Only one success story comes to mind when you read the headline: "Patriots sign veteran receiver." Wes Welkeris a rarity in New England, and he wasn't even a big-name player. Guys like Joey Galloway, Torry Holt, Donte Stallworth and Chad Ochocinco all made their way through Patriot Place and failed. Hell, even Randy Moss didn't end well.
RESPONSE: What a croc. Welker become a stud with the Patriots. Randy Moss was a stud with the Pats, from 2007-09. Jabar Gaffney was a solid contributor for three years. Donte' Stallworth was a very good complimentary player in 2007. The only reason why the Pats didn't keep him was because they would have been stuck with an $8mil. salary for 2008.
The Pats' did have to "develop" WRs in the early half of the decade, because they had Troy Brown, Deion Branch and David Givens. In 2007, they had Moss, Welker, Stallworth, and Gaffney. In 2010, they began to have an issue at WR, as Moss' skills declined. I would argue that the problem began then. So, what we're really talking about is a two year problem, triggered by the failed Ochoinco experiment, and the failed Taylor Price/Brandon Tate draft picks.
It strikes as a bit of a mystery though. If Tom Brady is such a transcendent quarterback, why can't the Patriots develop any receivers?
RESPONSE: Stupid. Look at what Brady did in 2006, when the cupboard was bare at WR. One rigged officiated game away from winning another SB. In 2007, when surrounded by WR talent, Tom excelled.
They have spent high draft picks on the likes of Chad Jackson, Bethel Johnson, Taylor Price and Brandon Tate at the position and haven't had any success. Really the only two wideouts that New England has developed during the Brady era are Deion Branch and David Givens.
RESPONSE: Again...the Pats found a way to solve the WR problem after Branch and Givens left, by bringing in Welker, Moss, Stallworth, and Gaffney.
This is as prolific an offense as there is in football right now. How does it work? Two dominant tight ends and a dynamic slot receiver is what the Patriots have been the since Moss was sent packing.
Brady excels at his own style. What we still don't know is: Does his style mesh well with premier pass-catchers?
RESPONSE: A ridiculous comment. Look at what happened in 2007 when Tom got to play with Randy Moss.
The Patriots quarterback may be better off passing to Reche Caldwell than Calvin Johnson, a statement that is utterly absurd.
RESPONSE: Agreed...this is an absurd statement. If Brady had Johnson to work with, that combo would have aa season similar to what Brady and Moss did in 2007.
Moving away from the fact that Massachusetts seems to be where name receivers go to die, let's look at Lloyd as a player. At 30 years of age, he is no spring chicken in the NFL, especially at a skill position. In Lloyd's nine-year career, he has played 16 games in a season just three times. On top of that, Robert Kraft will be his sixth different employer since being drafted in 2003.
If that doesn't scream both injury risk and attitude issues, I don't know what does. Lloyd has gotten a lot of publicity and notoriety in football circles for what may amount to one outlier season. In 2010 when with the Denver Broncos, Lloyd led the NFL in receiving, catching 77 balls for 1,448 yards.
Prior to that, Lloyd had never broken 50 catches or 750 yards. Last season in time split between Denver and Saint Louis, Lloyd did grab 70 balls for more than 900 yards, but that was playing for down-and-out franchises with limited offensive weaponry.
RESPONSE: All true.
Aging wide recievers in the NFL have to be two things; durable and consistent. Neither adjective screams Brandon Lloyd, and the Patriots think so, too. Bringing in a rash of WR talent this offseason doesn't reek of confidence in Lloyd's skills.
Neither does the fact that they were able to get him so cheap, (three years, $12 million) in a burgeoning receiver market. Lloyd covered his back early by saying he'd take less money to come to New England. In reality, he was never going to get Vincent Jackson money.
RESPONSE: What this reeks of is the intelligence of the Patriots' front office, not to overpay for Lloyd. If Lloyd remains healthy, I can't see how his signing will be a negative. He's 30...not 33. He has a better set of skills than the washed up Ocho, or the aged Deion Branch. Even if he only caught 50-60 balls this season, it will be an improvement over what the Pats had at WR last year, with Ocho. If Lloyd serves to force secondaries to somewhat respect the Pats' ability to throw deep, his presence will make things easier for the TEs and Welker, underneath.
Brady has his top three options pretty much set in stone with Welker, Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. Lloyd's role will be a limited one. He will also be competing for snaps with Ochocinco, Stallworth, Branch, Anthony Gonzalez and whatever else the Pats find on the scrap heap.
Lloyd has been a top dog since 2008 in Chicago, consistently a first or second option for mediocre quarterbacks. In New England, he will have to accept a role and keep his mouth closed if he wants to succeed.
Even in success, though, this won't be the major move fans once thought. Lloyd is a minor cog in a scarily efficient offensive unit. Maybe he will come in and be the consummate teammate and pro that Ochocinco was able to be. But Ochocinco was not a success, his signing was a failure, and Lloyd's resume doesn't have seven 1,000-yard seasons on it.
RESPONSE: No one here expects the Lloyd addition to have the same impact as when Randy Moss came aboard. But, it's reasonable to expect that Lloyd will have 50-75 receptions, and make several big plays this season. If he does that, he'll command some attention from opposing secondaries...which should in turn help free up Welker, Gronk, Hernandez, and make it easier to establish a running game.
It is as reliable as the Madden curse, so mark it down—Foxboro, MA, where the careers of big-name receivers go to die.RESPONSE: Nonsense. Randy Moss resurrected his career in Foxboro...and Wes Welker became a star here.