Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft?

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    I read a story about his fathers death while he was in highschool and how he had a very tough time after this mentaly. Maybe this lead alot of teams to shy away from him not just because of the pot but his mental state in general. It takes time to get over something like this and lets hope he is going in the right direction.

     
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    When you mention great  TE's you might add Ben Coates and Russ Francis to your list.  Both distinguished themselves mightily in their day playing for N.E..

    Hell, even Howard Cossell of Monday Night Football fame referred to Francis as an  "All-World Tight End."

    Both were larger than A/H with Francis over 6'6".  He was a beast....
    Don't remember either of them running as well as A/H after the catch but I could be wrong....
     
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    Hernandez is a tweener, BB's kind of guy. 

    He happens to fit into a position, H-back, that only a few teams have.  On most teams he just wouldn't fit anywhere.  BB goofed on Dan Koppen but he was right on Hernandez. 

    Jonathan Kraft and BB were extra-cautious about Hernandez's herb history.  They rigged up a special contract, really a million dollar bet that Hernandez can't stay off the weed.  If Hernandez wins he gets the extra million bucks, if he loses he loses an extra million.  Now how much is Hernandez paying for each baggie, for each splib?  The cost went way up. 

    First round talent at a fourth round price.
     
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    Marijuana Character (tattoos yes seriously) Size for a TE (cant really block huge LBs like a Ray Lewis) Draft isnt an exact science 
    Posted by Pancakespwn


    Dallas Clark of the Colts isn't exactly a prototype TE but how good is that guy. I see alot of similarities in AH. The guy could be the steal of the 2010 draft. Pot or no pot.
     
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    He fell because of the same reason Tate fell to the third round. POTHEAD! But BB doesn't care, he had a coke head as the headline of his defense in NY. BB believes that Mary Jane should be legal. Sometimes he likes to sit in his office, light a dube and then draw schemes for the defense.  That is the method to his madness. 
    Posted by 49Patriots


    BB, MJ, the grateful dead, and a chalk board......classic Laughing
     
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    In Response to Re: Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft? : Actually, its not illegal due to the Tobacco companies, In 1937 the Marihuana Tax Act prohibited production of hemp in the United States. The campaign against hemp had been led by Harry Anslinger , head of the Treasury Department's Federal Bureau of Narcotics (predecessor to today's Drug Enforcement Agency—DEA). It was not a coincidence that Anslinger's uncle-in-law got him his job. Nor that that uncle-in-law, Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon, was the primary financial mover behind the DuPont company's multimillion dollar project with newspaper publisher William Randolph Hearst . The project? Use DuPont's new chemical pulping process to cheaply produce pulp in Hearst-owned pulp mills from trees in Hearst-owned forests to create newsprint and other paper much more cheaply than the newsprint that Hearst's newspaper competitors could buy. (DuPont was also worried about competitors who were beginning to use hemp to create products heretofore made from petroleum.)   Hemp can be used to produce more than 25,000 products.   Hemp seeds are an excellent source of both soluble fibre and insoluble fibre. They are an excellent way to gently cleanse the intestinal system and are a welcome addition of heavy fiber to anyone's diet. Hemp can also be a valuable, and highly productive, source of biodiesel fuel. Along with being a known natural Cholesterol reducer.   Hemp seed is a highly nutritious source of protein and essential fatty oils. The protein in hemp seed closely resembles protein as it is found in the human blood. It is extremely easy to digest. The essential fatty acids that hemp seed provides contain almost no saturated fat. As a diet supplement, they can reduce the risk of heart disease. One handful of hemp seed per day will supply adequate protein and essential oils for an adult.   SMOKE UP JOHHNY!!
    Posted by ASO9771



    ...er, so you're saying that you would back legalizing the strains of Marajuana which have had their THC removed, right? Or are you just trying to find legitimate reasons for doing something which is currently illegal?

    I've smoked as much as anyone and have no problem with people smoking, but don't pretend that there are really that many "legitimate" reasons for people to want to smoke up. Any of the "positive" uncorroborated facts that are typically presented which claim that pot is the "superplant" conveniently never mention that pot is bad for soil (a "weed" as it were...), and not nearly as good for people or manufacturing processes as many other, currently legal plants.
     
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    natesubs, I think the fact Florida won 2 titles gives them the nod.  They were the best team in football while Hernandez was there, and that's 2 championships!!  Alabama won one, and look at them now, getting smoked by S. Carolina.
     
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    natesubs, I think the fact Florida won 2 titles gives them the nod.  They were the best team in football while Hernandez was there, and that's 2 championships!!  Alabama won one, and look at them now, getting smoked by S. Carolina.
    Posted by quasi


    I think tebow may have had something to do with that as well nub...If there was a center of the marijuana universe, it would be gainesville florida imo.  Place was just crazy when I was in college.  Had a few people that I would visit and it was just ridiculous the set ups they had.  And these were people that didnt know each other.  Everytime I thought I had seen it all, the next person would top it off.  I think the majority of coffee grinders in the us was sold in gainesville fl...
     
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    killa, i think we have had this discussion before lol.

    On another note, some of you may want to go to the NJ.com Jets forums and try to reign in a pats fan, joeyluwegee.  He is getting stomped and has had his head spun so hard he is admitting that the patriots 3 SB were tainted by cheating and has conceded the afc east to jets already lol.  your boy needs help BAD...
     
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    BB goofed on Dan Koppen but he was right on Hernandez. 
    Posted by Paul_K


    What are you talking about?  Koppen is the man.
     
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    Mike Williams of Syracuse is another guy who became a draft steal because of something stupid he did in college.  Might be the best receiver in the draft (yes, better than Dez) and lasts until the 4th round because of even less than Hernandez did.  Wish the Pats had snagged him over Price.
     
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    hindsight is always 20/20 cosmo.  BB (or maybe Polian) was always know to take the best available in the draft and would fill holes through FA/trades.  I think the jets draft for need as seen with our trade ups for guys we want.
     
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    Mike Williams of Syracuse is another guy who became a draft steal because of something stupid he did in college.  Might be the best receiver in the draft (yes, better than Dez) and lasts until the 4th round because of even less than Hernandez did.  Wish the Pats had snagged him over Price.
    Posted by Muzwell


    And the rest of the story?????

    What exactly was Mike Williams's transgression?
     
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    Funny that alcohol is legal, and marijuana isn't.  Never met someone who smoked so much dope they died.  Ever.  Well, maybe they choked on a doughnut.  Seems like one of those things we need to let go of.
    Posted by Davedsone


    I have heard of many pot related deaths while driving.....

    You don't hear much about bad effects of smoking pot because there have not been enough studies on it.....
     
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    He fell because of the same reason Tate fell to the third round. POTHEAD! But BB doesn't care, he had a coke head as the headline of his defense in NY. BB believes that Mary Jane should be legal. Sometimes he likes to sit in his office, light a dube and then draw schemes for the defense.  That is the method to his madness. 
    Posted by 49Patriots


    you have any proof on this?  I don't think that he is that dumb to light up a dube.....

    I believe that Tate mainly fell to the 3rd round because he had a busted knee....

    didn't Edleman get draften in the 6th round?  I would consider that a steal....
     
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    In Response to Re: Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft? : And the rest of the story????? What exactly was Mike Williams's transgression?
    Posted by dustcover


    Decided to do my own research!  Here's a storyline on the Buc's pick:

    Since being selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the fourth round of the NFL draft, wide receiver Mike Williams has talked openly about his departure from the Syracuse football team last fall.


    With four games left in the season, head coach Doug Marrone shocked fans with an announcement that Williams had left the football team. Details later emerged that Williams and teammates Antwon Bailey, Torrey Ball and Andrew Tiller had been involved in a crash on the Thruway on their way home from Turning Stone Casino, at a time that violated their curfew.

    Williams, who had already been punished for a team violation earlier in the season and was suspended for all of 2008 for cheating on a test, was facing another suspension.

     
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    In Response to Re: Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft? : No sir, Please people get a clue, THE CONSPIRACY Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America. http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm c
    Posted by patriotway1
    this is accurate...they couldn't attack cannabis, which people understood and liked, so they grabbed a new word and villified it..they controlled the press, and used it to spread misinformation...also, southern white men didn't like the black men smoking cannabis and oogling the white ladies...our Declaration of Independence is written on hemp paper...question authority anyone?.....cannabis(marijuana)..for our early evolving ancestors it was their first medicine
     
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    Funny that alcohol is legal, and marijuana isn't.  Never met someone who smoked so much dope they died.  Ever.  Well, maybe they choked on a doughnut.  Seems like one of those things we need to let go of.
    Posted by Davedsone

    because the research isn't there.  There's no "confirmed" deaths caused by weed, doesn't mean they haven't happened.  Personally, I'm not a weed guy.  But no, I'm not getting caught up in a debate about it, either.


     
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    In Response to Re: Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft? : ...er, so you're saying that you would back legalizing the strains of Marajuana which have had their THC removed, right? Or are you just trying to find legitimate reasons for doing something which is currently illegal? I've smoked as much as anyone and have no problem with people smoking, but don't pretend that there are really that many "legitimate" reasons for people to want to smoke up. Any of the "positive" uncorroborated facts that are typically presented which claim that pot is the "superplant" conveniently never mention that pot is bad for soil (a "weed" as it were...), and not nearly as good for people or manufacturing processes as many other, currently legal plants.
    Posted by timesedge

    it's also resistent to mold, mildew and insects.  Makes a great roof!  Did a lot of research on it in college as a textile.  Old Ironsides was (forget exactly) something like 90% hemp.  right down to the sealant on the hull.

     
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    Aaron Hernandez played for the best team in college football in Florida, playing against some of the toughest defenses.  He produced at high level winning the John Mackey award last year.  He ran a 4.62 forty time and did 30 reps on the bench press and he didn't have any more injuries concerns.  The only thing I could guess is that he's only 6'2, 245 pounds, which is a little small for a tight end.     I can't believe so many teams passed on him, letting him fall to the 4th round.  And the best thing is he's only 20, the youngest player in the NFL, so who knows what true potential is.  The Patriots got a steal, but it's not like they found a diamond in the rough.  Hernandez may be the best steal the Patriots have landed on the 2nd day since Asante Samuel.                       
    Posted by DuncanOrange



    He is 6'3" 230?? smaller than almost all the hybrid TE/WR out there.

    He smokes the bong

     
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    In Response to Re: Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft? : you have any proof on this?  I don't think that he is that dumb to light up a dube..... I believe that Tate mainly fell to the 3rd round because he had a busted knee.... didn't Edleman get draften in the 6th round?  I would consider that a steal....
    Posted by m1024us



    PROOF LOL..i think that guy was just kidding!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft? : PROOF LOL..i think that guy was just kidding!!!
    Posted by gogogopats


    I hope he was.....
     
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    In Response to Re: Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft? : Decided to do my own research!  Here's a storyline on the Buc's pick: Since being selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the fourth round of the NFL draft, wide receiver Mike Williams has talked openly about his departure from the Syracuse football team last fall. With four games left in the season, head coach Doug Marrone shocked fans with an announcement that Williams had left the football team. Details later emerged that Williams and teammates Antwon Bailey, Torrey Ball and Andrew Tiller had been involved in a crash on the Thruway on their way home from Turning Stone Casino, at a time that violated their curfew. Williams, who had already been punished for a team violation earlier in the season and was suspended for all of 2008 for cheating on a test, was facing another suspension.
    Posted by dustcover


    Like I said, nothing much.  Broke curfew and cheated on a test. 
     
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    Funny that alcohol is legal, and marijuana isn't.  Never met someone who smoked so much dope they died.  Ever.  Well, maybe they choked on a doughnut.  Seems like one of those things we need to let go of.
    Posted by Davedsone


    The biggest opponent to legalizing pot is the alcohol industry.People don't get stoned then beat their wives or get into brawls and shoot each other either.
     
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    In Response to Why Did Aaron Hernandez Fall So Far In The Draft? : He is 6'3" 230?? smaller than almost all the hybrid TE/WR out there. He smokes the bong
    Posted by tagandtrade


    Where are you getting your stats?  6'2 245 is what he's listed as on NFL.com.
     
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