Why did ESPN have to shove personal Sam moment down our throats?

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    Why did ESPN have to shove personal Sam moment down our throats?

     


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    Why couldn't they just focus on the player, his ability, game film and collegiate accomplishments? I could care less about his personal srxual preference! But ESPN chose to make it about that instead of Sam the player...

     
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    He's not allowed to live his live and show his feelings towards his significant other on national TV?  

     
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    Showing Sam and his emotional moment with his partner was great...they shared a kiss great...but then they had to go on showing them eating cake out of each others mouth..really??? I would have preferred to see his game film ...all of his accomplishments..not some reality show...

     
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    It was nice to have a camera there and catch the emotion he had when getting drafted.  They do that with lots of players, but then they showed it like 10 times over and over on NFL network. If someone is looking to be treated the same as everyone else then do so, treat the moment that way too. 


    Another thing that I didn't like was on NFL network they were acting like it was some type of conspiracy between the owners that he wasn't getting picked. Acting like they couldn't believe Sam had not been picked yet, even acted shocked and made a few comments about players who were graded below him were getting picked ahead of him. They were making a big deal about it, it was beginning to look and feel so very fake.


    The Rams is a good spot for Sam, I like Jeff Fisher and and I think this is a perfect fit. 


     

     
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    Showing Sam and his emotional moment with his partner was great...they shared a kiss great...but then they had to go on showing them eating cake out of each others mouth..really??? I would have preferred to see his game film ...all of his accomplishments..not some reality show...


     





    I hope you can realize that Sam isn't the story ... you are. If that were a straight player with his GF no one would say a thing. The reason they are showing it is because (sadly) in 2014 it still gets the "go back in the closet" reaction. 


     


    Once that reaction is gone, it won't be a story anymore. 





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    It was nice to have a camera there and catch the emotion he had when getting drafted.  They do that with lots of players, but then they showed it like 10 times over and over on NFL network. If someone is looking to be treated the same as everyone else then do so, treat the moment that way too. 


     


    Another thing that I didn't like was on NFL network they were acting like it was some type of conspiracy between the owners that he wasn't getting picked. Acting like they couldn't believe Sam had not been picked yet, even acted shocked and made a few comments about players who were graded below him were getting picked ahead of him. They were making a big deal about it, it was beginning to look and feel so very fake.


     


    The Rams is a good spot for Sam, I like Jeff Fisher and and I think this is a perfect fit. 


     


     





    Not at all, TFB. Mayock went out of his way to say that he doesn't want the idea that had Sam gone undrafted, that it had anything at all to do with his sexuality. Mayock painted a rather clear picture explaining why Sam fell in the draft. It had to do with his athletic ability (or lack thereof) showcased during his combine. The rest of the panel fell in line, but did acknowledged that if Sam had gone undrafted that chatter (that he went undrafted due to his sexual preference) would begin.


    Again, Mayock went out of his way to dismiss the aforementioned, and no one else on the panel brought that idea up either. They simply acknowledged that it would happen. 


    And FWIW, I only saw NFLN show the Sam with his significant other clip twice following him being drafted.

     
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    ESPN made it a big deal not me....never had never will have a problem with preferences...but just as I don't shove my preferences down ANYONEs throat...it would be appreciated that others preferences are not shoved down my throat...


    As I said before catching moment with his partner trying to console him was great...the kiss him and his partner shared was great...but other stuff was over the top .I was watching the draft to learn about players why teams drafted them...second guess GMs...not to watch reality TV.


    Wouldn't have been a big deal till ESPN made it into such.


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


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    Showing Sam and his emotional moment with his partner was great...they shared a kiss great...but then they had to go on showing them eating cake out of each others mouth..really??? I would have preferred to see his game film ...all of his accomplishments..not some reality show...


     


     


     





    I hope you can realize that Sam isn't the story ... you are. If that were a straight player with his GF no one would say a thing. The reason they are showing it is because (sadly) in 2014 it still gets the "go back in the closet" reaction. 


     


     


     


    Once that reaction is gone, it won't be a story anymore. 


     





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    It was nice to have a camera there and catch the emotion he had when getting drafted.  They do that with lots of players, but then they showed it like 10 times over and over on NFL network. If someone is looking to be treated the same as everyone else then do so, treat the moment that way too. 


     


    Another thing that I didn't like was on NFL network they were acting like it was some type of conspiracy between the owners that he wasn't getting picked. Acting like they couldn't believe Sam had not been picked yet, even acted shocked and made a few comments about players who were graded below him were getting picked ahead of him. They were making a big deal about it, it was beginning to look and feel so very fake.


     


    The Rams is a good spot for Sam, I like Jeff Fisher and and I think this is a perfect fit. 


     


     






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    I agree with you TFB St Louis perfect spot for Sam...hope he does well! Great situation for him.

     
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    Not at all, TFB. Mayock went out of his way to say that he doesn't want the idea that had Sam gone undrafted, that it had anything at all to do with his sexuality. Mayock painted a rather clear picture explaining why Sam fell in the draft. It had to do with his athletic ability (or lack thereof) showcased during his combine. The rest of the panel fell in line, but did acknowledged that if Sam had gone undrafted that chatter (that he went undrafted due to his sexual preference) would begin.


    Again, Mayock went out of his way to dismiss the aforementioned, and no one else on the panel brought that idea up either. They simply acknowledged that it would happen. 


    And FWIW, I only saw NFLN show the Sam with his significant other clip twice following him being drafted.


     





    Rich Eisen kept digging at it and digging at it, it was to the point that it was almost embarrassing of him.  I couldn't believe when they started to make a big deal of players rated below him being picked above him.  NFL Network showed it over and over and many times long after the pick was made and as the discussions continued.  ESPN even called Jeff Fisher and talked to him about the pick.  It was a little much by both networks, imo.

     
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    Just like when Paramount made the film 42 man. I get it. Stop shoving Jackie Robinson's color down my throat. 


     




    LMAO!  um, okay Z.  You can think it's the same thing... It isn't.

     
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    Lol! You can keep insisting it's not, and that you aren't homophobic. Both aren't true. 


     




    LMAO!  You have got to be kidding??? Please show me one comment I made that would indicate I am homophobic?  We live in a different world these days compared to the days of Jackie Robinson.  No, not the same thing.

     
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     Didn't see it, but think it's pretty cool that the NFL is trying to be socially progressive.  

     
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    Showing Sam and his emotional moment with his partner was great...they shared a kiss great...but then they had to go on showing them eating cake out of each others mouth..really??? I would have preferred to see his game film ...all of his accomplishments..not some reality show...


     





    I hope you can realize that Sam isn't the story ... you are. If that were a straight player with his GF no one would say a thing. The reason they are showing it is because (sadly) in 2014 it still gets the "go back in the closet" reaction. 


     


    Once that reaction is gone, it won't be a story anymore. 




    But why focus on that? Is the nfl now the morality and PC Gestapo? Why do they care? They are a professional football organization not the ACLU or lgbt or whatever.


    you are correct. No one woud say a thing because it is the norm. If they are trying to shift the norm, then showing this makes sense. Still, why do they feel the need to? 

     
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    So two dudes were kissing, then shoving cake in each others faces on national TV... who fackin cares?  If you have a problem with it, it says more about you than them... they're the secure ones.

     
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    Re: Why did ESPN have to shove personal Sam moment down our throats?

    I almost didn't click onto this thread because I fully expected a bunch of trolled -up , knucklehead responses ..


    To my great surprise   , the comments here have been mostly intelligent adult interjections .


    And...


    Zbellino -


    Your rebuttals may just be the single best  / most articulate arguments I've read on the subject .


    Bravo .


     

     
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    Yeah, just like when the media shoved Jackie Robinson's personal life down everyone's throat. Senseless!




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    He's not allowed to live his live and show his feelings towards his significant other on national TV?  




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    It was nice to have a camera there and catch the emotion he had when getting drafted.  They do that with lots of players, but then they showed it like 10 times over and over on NFL network. If someone is looking to be treated the same as everyone else then do so, treat the moment that way too. 


     


     


     


    Another thing that I didn't like was on NFL network they were acting like it was some type of conspiracy between the owners that he wasn't getting picked. Acting like they couldn't believe Sam had not been picked yet, even acted shocked and made a few comments about players who were graded below him were getting picked ahead of him. They were making a big deal about it, it was beginning to look and feel so very fake.


     


     


     


    The Rams is a good spot for Sam, I like Jeff Fisher and and I think this is a perfect fit. 


     


     


     


     


     






     


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    I agree with you TFB St Louis perfect spot for Sam...hope he does well! Great situation for him.




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