Re: Why does the media call the loss to the Jets a beatdown?
posted at 9/26/2009 4:45 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Why does the media call the loss to the Jets a beatdown?
[QUOTE]Laz: Interesting analogy! So, if the current Patriot "empire" is in decline (and I believe it is, due to the combination of advancing age and the gradual disappearance of those who made those SB triumphs possible), in what stage of the "fall" are we: 1/ The equivalent of Rome under Marcus Aurelius, facing an uppity Parthia seeking to regain its lost territory in what is today the Balkans and the Middle East (the NY Jets of its time) as well as the defacto union of germanic tribes (modern equivalents being the Steelers, Titans, Chargers, and Colts) crossing the Danube River to threaten Rome's northern flank as well as invading Gaul. Or 2/ Are we in the beginning portion of the Dark Ages, when the Romans were down to a few territories around Rome, and the Huns (modern equivalent: Atlanta) led by Attila (or Matt Ryan) will lay waste upon our stalwart worthies (Patriots)? If the Patriots' are in the Marcus Aurelius stage, they will find a way to stave off ultimate defeat by beating back their foes and attaining glory for one brief gasp of time. In MA's case, he was the last competent emperor of Rome and in his case: the remark apres moi , le deluge was highly appropriate. If we are in the second stage (which I do not think we are), Matt Ryan and the Falcons will tear the Patriots' defense to shreds, and the Patriots' offense may not produce enough points to keep up with them. Comments, s'il vous plait?
Posted by Belenus555[/QUOTE]Belenus
FANTASTIC historical reference B
! Personally, I too, believe what we're seeing here is much more akin to the Aurelius stage than the latter... I, myself, was alluding prominently to a Franz Kafka short story entitled, "Barbarians at the Gate
." The story deals with the fictional sacking of some town, where barbarian hoardes come in, slaughter a few people, eat up all the food stores, slobber around the street for awhile, then eventual get bored and leave to sack another town, civilization, or simply ride into the western sunset of the Russian steppes...
The overall point Kafka was trying to make, is such that-Since the dawn of civilization there's been Barbarians sacking settlements again and again and
again, and EVERY single time, those part of that "civilized" world believe it's the very end of things, and that things have never been worse than what they are during THIS sacking experience, the one going on now... Same holds true for when elders (Us, now) believe that THIS generation of youth coming of age is far worse than OUR generation was...never seems true. Civilizaions rebuild, the NEXT generation shows they can hold things together just fine, the Age advances (sometimes there's a little ebb, before the next "flow" that ALWAYS follows) and Life goes on... As humans, we often glamorize the past, forgetting that even within these so called "Golden Ages" in time, We as Individuals were still slave to the same preoccupations, desires and worries that we are at the present time, and We as people were wearing symbolic horns on our heads and still making sacrificial offerings to Bull-Gods (ahhh, College)...of note
: Not that keen on Marcus Aurelius B
... As an undergrad, I was up in my off-campus room suffering from mono and strep-throat while desperately trying to keep my eyes open in order to read the next days assignment-50 pages of Aurelius's philosophical collection called "Meditations
." I decided, as the good student I was, NOT to just drift off to sleep, But to take a break down stairs... I found my roommates/frat brothers taking shots with a Be-Be Gun
through the living room and onto the porch rail where were set up- a few 2 Liter Soda bottles filled with water... So I took the gun lined up a shot, squeezed the trigger, and went outside to adjust the soda bottles-WHERE 5 cops were scaling up our backyard with their guns drawn telling me to drop the gun and put my hands on the ground... In the end, I'm thinking that the night in Jail and accelerated rehabilitation (what a waste of a 'get outta jail card'
) STILL beat reading that awful piece of literature...final note
: Hopefully Belenus
, We're not at THAT point in historical time where our General Aethius (sp?) allows Genghis Khan to go free (RE
: the NY Jests) after a battle where the Romans could
have wiped The Mongols out simply because personal reasons (stayed with them as a child), and He wanted to leave the Mongols as a counterbalance to the Gothic (RE
: Miami Dolphins) hoardes (also encroaching into Roman provinces) (RE
AFC East foes)... Ya know, It took the Pope, as Khan was right at Rome's Gates, To go and confront Genghis Khan, and convince Him to leave Rome alone because the rath of God would befall him IF He kept up his burning and pillaging...MENTAL NOTE FOR ALL
: "IF ya ever have somebody by the nose, ALWAYS make sure to subsequently Kick him in the a##
," rather than giving them a way out, or 1 more chance...