Re: Why Many Patriots' Fans Were Upset over 2011 Draft Selections
posted at 7/12/2011 3:15 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Why Many Patriots' Fans Were Upset over 2011 Draft Selections
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why Many Patriots' Fans Were Upset over 2011 Draft Selections : I can find little in what you say to dispute. Well said.
Posted by BabeParilli[/QUOTE]
Not to pile on, Babe...but you've repeatedly criticized BB for trading current picks for future picks...when that strategy has served him, and the Patriots, well. For example:
1.) In 2003, the Pats traded their 19th overall pick to the Baltimore Ravens, which they used to select QB Kyle Boller. In exchange, the Pats obtained the Ravens 41st overall selection (used to select DB Eugene Wilson), and the Ravens #1 pick in 2004 (used to select DT Vince Wilfolk);
2.) In 2005, the Pats traded their 64th overall pick to the Ravens, which they used to select OT Adam Terry, for the Baltimore's 84th overall pick (used to select CB Ellis Hobbs), their 6th round pick (#206 overall), and their third round pick in 2006 (this pick turned out to be the 75th pick overall, and was wasted, along with the Pats' 52nd overall pick, in the horrific trade-up deal for WR Chad Jackson);
3.) In 2007, the Pats traded their 28th overall pick to the San Francisco 49ers (which the 49ers used to select OT Joe Staley), for SF's 4th round pick (#110 overall - which the Pats flipped to the Raiders for Randy Moss), and the 49ers' #1 pick in 2008...which was flipped, and used to select ILB Jerod Mayo.
4.) In 2008, the Patriots traded their 69th overall pick to the San Diego Chargers, who used the pick on FB Jacob Hester. In exchange, the Pats' received the Chargers' second round pick in 2009, which they used in a trade-up to land DT Ron Brace;
5.) In 2009, the Pats traded their 26th and 162nd overall picks (from Baltimore) which GB used to select pro bowl LB Clay Matthews, and OG Jamon Meridith. In exchange, the Pats obtained the 41st, 73rd, and 83rd overall picks. The Pats unfortunately used that 41st pick on CB Darius Butler. The 73rd selection was traded to Jacksonville, who the Jags used to select DB Derrick Cox. In return, the Pats got the Jags' second round pick in 2010 (44th overall, which the Pats packaged with their 190th overall pick to move up two spots, and select TE Rob Gronkowski), and used the 83rd overall pick to select WR Brandon Tate. The Pats also traded their 89th overall selection to the Tennessee Titans (used to select TE Jared Cook) for the Titans 2nd round pick in 2010...which turned out to be the 47th overall selection. The Pats traded it to Arizona for the Cards' 58th overall pick and their 89th overall pick (traded to Carolina, who used the pick to draft WR Armanti Edwards), for the Panthers' second round pick in 2011 (used to select DB Ras-I Dowling). They then traded the 58th overall pick to Houston, for the Texans' 62nd (used to select ILB Brandon Spikes) and 150th overall selection...which the Pats used to draft punter, Zoltan The Magnificent.
6.) In 2011, the Pats traded their 28th overall pick to New Orleans, who used the pick to select RB Mark Ingram. In return, the Pats' got the Saints 56th overall pick (used to select RB Shane Vereen), and the Saints' #1 pick in 2012. The Pats later traded their 92nd and 125th overall picks to the Oakland Raiders for Uncle Al's second round pick in 2012.
As you can see, trading for future picks has worked very well for the Patriots...while the lone major trade-up was a disaster. The other lesson learned? Beware of dealing with Ted Thompson of the Green Bay Packers.
Nonetheless, other than the Green Bay trades involving the Jackson trade-up and the Matthews mistake (though the Pats did come away with Gronk, Tate, and (gag) Butler...and Gronk looks to be pro-bowl material)...the Pats have committed highway robbery by trading present for future picks.