WHY NOT TAMBA HALL? for the 2 # 1's

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    Hali was a "Non-Exclusive" Franchise tender by KC meaning he can negotiate with other teams.  If he's signed to an offer sheet, KC has the option to match, if they don't, they receive two 1st rounders from the team that signs him (not sure if the deal would have to include 17 this year or if they'd have to give up their 2011 and 2012 assigned 1st rounders). 

    If they were to lose a 1 this year, they may be able to pick another one up via pick 33 in this years class.  That is the first pick of day two and should bring plenty of interest/value from other teams.

    With that being said, If they can keep 17 while giving up 28 and their 2012 1st, I'd love to see BB pull that deal off as that would still leave them with 17, 60, 74 and 92. 

    Sure he'd cost money and picks, but he's a proven commodity in this league and as a 3-4 OLB and would represent an immediate impact to the pass rush. The deal may be a bit too rich for BB's taste though.
     
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    I get what BBReigns is saying but to me, I would bank more on the proven NFL talent versus educated speculation. Maybe that's just me.
     
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    what a dumb idea and I am glad you have no influence in the draft day needs and decisions this team makes...........those two picks are worth five-6 picks to BB ...........this draft is stacked with DE'S and DL ..........
     
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    I'm with BBReigns. If you could get him extended to a low cost contract then getting a sure thing verses 2 late round 1st (which as we know not all turn into pro-bowlers) is something I would jump at. BUT, he's looking for top LB money and combining the cost in a contract extension and 2 1st round picks I'm not sure if I'd do that.

    MB I'm pretty sure that the rule is your 1st round picks so #28 and 12' but you can negotiate with the team so knowing the Pats will most likely be a lower pick KC might rather have #17 and #60 with say a 3rd next year then #28 and a 1st next year. Either way with the OL needing major overhual and being so close to finishing of the D along with the great depth in those position (1st round grades going to those who might make it to the 2nd round) I'd rather spend the picks shoring up the team long term then getting that high cost impact OLB. Now if we could work out a Mankins and #60 for Hali I'd ask where do I sign up. 
     
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    It's all moot.  There's no free agency until the CBA is signed.  Why bother even speculating on this stuff?  That is, unless you believe in unicorns and tooth fairies and you think they'll get a deal done in the near future.
     
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    not gonna happen, not worth it for us.  and its Hali, not Hall
     
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    "I get what BBReigns is saying but to me, I would bank more on the proven NFL talent versus educated speculation"

    Don't forget, Adalius Thomas was "proven talent" coming off a pro bowl berth.  How'd that work out?? 

    I'll say there's almost no chance of BB giving up such high draft choices and paying a guy a boatload of $$$
     
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    In Response to Re: WHY NOT TAMBA HALL? for the 2 # 1's:
    "I get what BBReigns is saying but to me, I would bank more on the proven NFL talent versus educated speculation" Don't forget, Adalius Thomas was "proven talent" coming off a pro bowl berth.  How'd that work out??  I'll say there's almost no chance of BB giving up such high draft choices and paying a guy a boatload of $$$
    Posted by siestafiesta


    I knew someone would mention Adalius Thomas but that's not really fair because it was one failed signing. That doesn't mean Belichick and Kraft will shy away from signing any veteran to a big contract, forever. It's not something they do easily, which is great to me because we still win while spreading the wealth a little better. I've also seen the Patriots pay top dollar for professionals/individuals/players that are worth top dollar: Brady, Welker, Wilfork.

    Signing Hali to a large contract may be a bad move, I get that, but you can't NOT do it based solely on what Adalius did/did not do.
     
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    this would be hard to pass up.  Right now I see it as a balancing act.  Let's say the deal is not done and the Pats get their DE and OLB with the first two picks.  That leaves money for FA.  If Hall is brought in you lose a lot of that.  It would have to do on what I see on film on these future potentials.  If there is such a thing this is a pass rush type of draft and the future answer could lie there.  But if it's not pull the trigger. 

     
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    Re: WHY NOT TAMBA HALL? for the 2 # 1's

    Cause Tamba Ali sucks
     
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    Because it trades in exactly the opposite direction from value.  BB is an old-time trader (as opposed to the modern Bear Stearns style of trader, who is hooked on meth and trades the cow for magic beans to smoke). 

    Often trade down to pick up value, especially down in the first round where the NFL marketplace grossly overvalues high picks.  Often trade out to the next year, because the NFL marketplace is full of coaches desperate to win this year or never.  Never trade for another team's established player because, llike a used car, there may be something wrong that you don't know.  Occasionally trade off your own star players like Randy Moss if you already know there's something wrong nyuk nyuk nyuk.
     
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    "I knew someone would mention Adalius Thomas but that's not really fair because it was one failed signing. That doesn't mean Belichick and Kraft will shy away from signing any veteran to a big contract, forever"

    Why isn't that a fair comment??  It wasn't meant to knock BB just to show that very few things are definites.  Your comment is actually off base because it's not a matter of BB and Kraft shying away from signing a veteran to a big contract.  It's about signing a veteran to a big contract and giving up 2 first rounders.  Huge difference!!  That's why I underlined the word "and" in my first post. The fallout of a bad signing is bad enough.  A trade of that magnitude that doesn't work out can affect your team much worse because of the lost assets.
     
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    In Response to Re: WHY NOT TAMBA HALL? for the 2 # 1's:
    In Response to Re: WHY NOT TAMBA HALL? for the 2 # 1's :   it's a dumb idea because you've never taken a calculated risk in your life. Be happy in your life with your tail between your legs never knowing what it's like to take A SHOT at something......Greatness comes with risks, super bowls are won with proven vets, not rookies and unproven commodities...
    Posted by makonikyman


    Eason11 is right......Bad idea.......
     
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    If we are willing to give up 2 first rounders to a 27 year old that wants cash just to get our pass rush back, why didnt we just keep richard seymour? 
     
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    In Response to Re: WHY NOT TAMBA HALL? for the 2 # 1's:
    In Response to Re: WHY NOT TAMBA HALL? for the 2 # 1's : Hey, PatsEng.   Monkkeyboy told us to 'grow some balls" because we don't think trading TWO 1st rd picks and then having to break the bank to resign Hali is a good move. lol
    Posted by BBReigns


    I seem to get that a lot so I'm use to it  : p
     
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