Will There Be A Rookie Salary Cap In 2011?

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    Will There Be A Rookie Salary Cap In 2011?

    I think there will be, mainly because the players association will want it.  With NFL careers being so short, why shouldn't a guy like Asante Samuel who is making 4th round money and becomes a starter, not be able to get a raise.   The only people that will suffer from a rookie cap will be the top half of the first round which is 16 people, the veterans don't care, they're tired of Matt Sanchez and David Carr's getting Brady money without proving anything.   Spread that money around for the players that deserve it.
     
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    the NFL should've had the rookie cap way, way, way back.
     
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    [QUOTE]the NFL should've had the rookie cap way, way, way back.
    Posted by lexlib[/QUOTE]

    Most definitely.
     
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    So there must have been, and probably still is, a reason for the owner's to not strike a deal, way, way back...a concession that was over-looked as irrelevant?..don't bet on it.
     
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    I just don't think it ever got as out of control as it did since 1998 when it went crazy with the contracts.

    1998 - Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf get monster deals.  Manning turns into a Hall of Famer and Leaf is a disaster.

    1999 - Tim Couch, Akili Smith, and Donavan McNabb get huge deals.  Of course, we know what happened with Smith and Couch.

    2000 - Courtney Brown gets a big contract.  Complete bust.

    2001 - Michael Vick gets paid sets a new #1 record. 

    2002 - David Carr and Joey Harrington break the bank.  How they turn out?

    2003 - Carson Palmer breaks the bank. 

    2004 - Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, get paid. 

    2005 - Alex Smith breaks the bank.  How did that turn out.  

    So if you add up the hundreds of millions of dollars that Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Alex Smith, Courtney Brown all got paid, that's a lot of money that could have gone back into the hands of veterans that prove themselves on the field like Marquis Colston a 7th pick who excels as a rookie for the Saints.  He should immediately get at least a 100 percent pay raise the next season.
     
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    Re: Will There Be A Rookie Salary Cap In 2011?

    there is a rookie cap.

    what we're talking about is fixed slotted contracts that are smaller in the top 10 or so picks. The likely concession, though, would be a reduction to 4 year contracts for first round picks.
     
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    Goody Goodell and the owners and certain members of NFLPA want a rookie cap, therefore it will happen. What remains to be seen is how far they go # of years, restrictions on guarnteed money, signing bonuses etc....
     
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    I am no Lawyer or contract specialist but it seems simple to me.  Slotted cap for  picks with incentive (read bonus) monies available for milestones like games started, and more specific to the player position Completion % for QB and sacks for LB's for example. That is how the contracts should be for all the players anyway... performance based. Then throw a bone to vets vor going along with this by giving a player who has spent lets say 8 or more years with his team a trade veto. If the player doesn't want to go somewhere let him veto (just once) that trade then if they get a deal done with someone else they have to accept it. Kind of like the MLB deal.
     
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    [QUOTE]there is a rookie cap. what we're talking about is fixed slotted contracts that are smaller in the top 10 or so picks. The likely concession, though, would be a reduction to 4 year contracts for first round picks.
    Posted by KyleCleric2[/QUOTE]
    What?
    I don't know if you understand what a cap is. $50 million to sanchez or $72 million to ryan, before either one has played a down in the NFL are not capped salaries.
    What's being proposed by the  owners is a flat out maximum number based on draft position. #1 pick, $10 million, $10 pick $1 million, for example.
    Makes sense to me, to owners and to most players who see way too much money being thrown at rooks. 
     
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    I also think the NFL should make veterans that have been on teams more than 10 seasons count less against the cap.  That way players like Ray Lewis, LT, and etc, although would still cost money to keep, would be a benefit to keep on the roster since their cap space would count less.  Since only a small percentage of players play on a team for 10 seasons, it wouldn't make a big difference but it's better for the game when players play on one team their entire career.
     
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    [QUOTE]I am no Lawyer or contract specialist but it seems simple to me.  Slotted cap for  picks with incentive (read bonus) monies available for milestones like games started, and more specific to the player position Completion % for QB and sacks for LB's for example. That is how the contracts should be for all the players anyway... performance based. Then throw a bone to vets vor going along with this by giving a player who has spent lets say 8 or more years with his team a trade veto. If the player doesn't want to go somewhere let him veto (just once) that trade then if they get a deal done with someone else they have to accept it. Kind of like the MLB deal.
    Posted by DaBlade[/QUOTE]
    I completely disagree. How do you grade offensive linemen? What about a guy like Wilfork? He gets few sacks but clogs up the middle. What value would you place on him?

    I also disagree with the veto part of your post. If the team can't trade a player, what is stopping them from just cutting him?
     
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    Re: Will There Be A Rookie Salary Cap In 2011?

    absolutely. the owners will lock them out over this issue. its a nobrainer and non-negotiable. the players will get something in terms of having more of a real guaranteed contract as in baseball or basketball. they will also get more revenue sharing from the owners in exchange for 18 games startg in 3 to 5 years! dont forget about that court case to be decided by the end of this year that could give all pro leagues full monoploly powers like they had in baseball before the curt flood decision. owners willll be able to cancel free agency and do whatever they want. the balance of power willl shift and castrate the unions.
     

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