Willie McGinest

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    Willie McGinest

    I'm still waiting for McGinest to show up. He's retired, but the Patriots are in need of a pass rusher. He was doing a fine job in Cleveland and with this whole Patrick Pass sign/cut makes me think they'll be bringing back more former players when they need to a'la Junior Seau, Tully Banta-Cain, Rosevelt Colvin.
     
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    Um, they have the most players at training camp than any other team.....they have to start making cuts......they are not going to add any new "Old players" during training camp....if Seau, Willie or Colvin are added to the roster it will be after training camp.
     
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    Re: Willie McGinest

    I don't know if they plan on signing any more players right now,but the have cut down to about 85 players and I think the max they can carry at the beginning of TC is either 75 or 80.It could be interesting as to whom they will cut...
     
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    Re: Willie McGinest

    I can't see McGinest adding that much to the team as he is today.  Is he a good backup plan in the case of injuries?  Yes.  I would not be surprised if he is brought in should an unexpected injury occur.  The one thing I liked most about Willie was his big play ability.  He was a total stud when it really mattered.  Players that make the game changing plays regularly are hard to find.  Willie was that type of guy. I will speculate that had Willie been on the team in 2007, he would have planted Eli in the ground, and not let him escape.  He simply made the big plays when we needed them.
     
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    Forget McGinest, he's finished.  I'd rather see the young guys like Crable and Guyton.
     
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    I'm going to have to go with the "I think he is done" crowd. It is time to find the next generation LB's in the young ones we ahve now! Go Pats!!!
     
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    Re: Willie McGinest

    He is 37 years old and will be 38 by the end of the season.  What in the world makes you think he can be more effective than what we currently have? 

    Believe me - I have about as much confidence in Pierre Woods as I have in Sam Aiken.  But if you don't give guys opportunities you're never going to grow in that area.  We have been hearing about how old the Linebacking group is since SuperBowl 39 and, with all due respect to AD and Mayo, the group as a whole has only declined.  We NEED young blood in the front seven.
     
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    What's Chris Slade doing these days? I know the NFL has throw-back uniforms...

     
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    Why does everybody hate Crable and Woods so bad? I watch Michigan football, and they were beasts at Michigan. Well, Crable was. They just haven't had a good chance. Well, Carble hasn't. Woods has, I guess. He is already 27.
     
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    In Response to Willie McGinest:
    [QUOTE]I'm still waiting for McGinest to show up. He's retired, but the Patriots are in need of a pass rusher. He was doing a fine job in Cleveland and with this whole Patrick Pass sign/cut makes me think they'll be bringing back more former players when they need to a'la Junior Seau, Tully Banta-Cain, Rosevelt Colvin.
    Posted by PatsChowder[/QUOTE] he wants to play one more year,and with a winning team,and he still in touch with some of the players.who knows,maybe he gets signed sometime around pre-season.

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/30/mcginest-thinking-about-playing-one-more-year/
     
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    Let's look at Willie the last two seasons:
    25 starts
    86 tackles
    4 sacks

    I'm not sure he'd be much of a help, honestly. Certainly he wouldn't help with the pass-rush aspect. Last year he had less success than Vrabel. Willie might be better than Banta-Cain, but Willie doesn't play special teams and Tully does. I think the Patriots are better off with who they have.
     
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    Willie wont add anything to that group except makingit harder for young guys to get reps. I love the man but he left town and its his own fault that he wont retire a Pat, he should have taken less money the way Bruschi did.
     
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    In Response to Re: Willie McGinest:
    [QUOTE]Let's look at Willie the last two seasons: 25 starts 86 tackles 4 sacks I'm not sure he'd be much of a help, honestly. Certainly he wouldn't help with the pass-rush aspect. Last year he had less success than Vrabel. Willie might be better than Banta-Cain, but Willie doesn't play special teams and Tully does. I think the Patriots are better off with who they have.
    Posted by Ritchie_az[/QUOTE]im sure he has slowed down some.he had 44 tkls this past season.in 2001 the first super bowl run he only had 25 tkls in his prime.he had more sacks,but it depends on the team,and who is rotateing in,and out.sure he wouldnt be able to start every down,but as a fill in he could do well.for there will be many on the team that will get cut,or wont be able to cut it.
    sure i can think of better players,but if the pats do need someone at a reasonable price,he may be it.like everyone else i would love to see our team have no flaws.have those defensive players who can rack up 10 sacks apeice,and db,s with 10 int apeice,but in reality it wont happen.we may see one or two players do well,but not everyone.thats where good depth is needed.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/2743/index.html
     
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    In Response to Re: Willie McGinest:
    [QUOTE]Willie wont add anything to that group except makingit harder for young guys to get reps. I love the man but he left town and its his own fault that he wont retire a Pat, he should have taken less money the way Bruschi did.
    Posted by MVPkilla[/QUOTE]

    I Agree 100%
     
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    Re: Willie McGinest

    Nice to see this thread has returned with the recent talks. I don't want to say, I told you so... but I guess I just did.

    Is he the impact player he used to be? No. But the Pats need a pass rusher and who better than Willie McGinest that already knows the system. Yeah, his numbers in Cleveland were down, but he had NO HELP AT ALL. Toss those out. Make him a pass rushing specialist here and he'll still be able to get behind the line and make an impact.

    Just ask Big Ben... Willie almost knocked him out of the playoffs in the final week of the season last year.
     
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    In Response to Re: Willie McGinest:
    [QUOTE]Nice to see this thread has returned with the recent talks. I don't want to say, I told you so... but I guess I just did. Is he the impact player he used to be? No. But the Pats need a pass rusher and who better than Willie McGinest that already knows the system. Yeah, his numbers in Cleveland were down, but he had NO HELP AT ALL. Toss those out. Make him a pass rushing specialist here and he'll still be able to get behind the line and make an impact. Just ask Big Ben... Willie almost knocked him out of the playoffs in the final week of the season last year.
    Posted by PatsChowder[/QUOTE]

    You didn't tell us anything....he hasn't signed with the Pats..all he did was said that he wouldn't mind playing for the Pats to end his career.


    I am not sure if Willie has anything left in his tank, but I am sure that Bill will kick the tires on any possibility that there was a way to improve the team's depth.  What wouldn't surprise me, is if we signed Willie solely for the purpose of tutoring Crable.....

     
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    Re: Willie McGinest

    I'm guessing there will be a bunch of players on BB's speed dial like last year just in case we run into injuries. I can see Willie on that list along with Colvin and Seau.
     
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    Re: Willie McGinest

    I don't think bringing him back for any reason (mentor or depth) would be a smart use of a precious roster spot. 

    We have Pepper Johnson who was a rather good LB on the coaching staff to teach the young players.
     
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    Re: Willie McGinest

    I love the guy but at 37 I just see him getting in the way of teh young player trying to make the jump to starter.
     
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    In Response to Re: Willie McGinest:
    [QUOTE]I love the guy but at 37 I just see him getting in the way of teh young player trying to make the jump to starter.
    Posted by MVPkilla[/QUOTE]
     but this would stink if we decide not to.i would hate for him to prove the nay sayers wrong.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/03/mcginest-to-the-jets/
     
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    Re: Willie McGinest

    McGinest is done. And some of these other pick-ups are way beyond their prime, also, if not washed up. Galloway? Shawn Springs? We will need to roll the dice on some more younger guys, or begin making trades for veterans who really have skills left.
     
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