Re: Winners and Losers...
posted at 8/12/2011 1:44 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Winners and Losers...
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Winners and Losers... : First thanks for be condescending, it was most welcome. I know it must be hard to except but you weren't the only one who played football for any length of time. I know what they showed at the beginning of the game. But I saw Cunningham more times then not stood up off the line and off the T at the 7 position on the outside rush of the C gap. To me that signifies that he's in the OLB rushing position not the DE position. Nin and Moore with their hands down over the D gap were more DE's then Cunningham imo. But, as you pointed out being lined up at the 7 position can be a setup for the 43 DE or the 34 OLB. The difference for me was that the personal (Guyton and Fletcher. Guyton on the strong side) with Nin/Moore on the strong side leads me to believe Cunningham was playing out of the OLB slot with the Pats rushing 4-5 in a modified 34. On passing downs I saw Cunningham lined up as a DE but for the 1st quarter I saw him more as a OLB then a DE. But I only played for 4 yrs and not 6 so you must be completely right on this one
Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]
Please. Don't go down that road. You introduce every post meaning to explain how every set is really 34 by telling me and others they are confuesed.
Essentially what you are saying is the Moore (268 lbs) is acting as a 3-4 end though playing in the spot where a 4-3 end would play, and Cunningham is just a linebacker with his hand in the dirt in the spot where the other 4-3 end plays?
What everyone else saw, and BB was defending earlier this week, is that it is a rather vanilla 4-3 arrangment. And it is part of the 43 playbook that he has run here and elsewhere all along.
What you are doing is describing a 4-3 alignment, and using terms that describe a 43 defense but you keep saying 'it tells you' it's a modified 34. It's becoming circular. One guy with his hand in the dirt over the 7 (a.k.a. D gap if there is a TE) and another with his hand down over the D-gap (a.k.a. 7 ) is 4-3. It's incredibly standard 4-3 as a matter of fact.
If we drew this on a placemat here ... you would be drawing a 43.
There are no tells in that alignment that make the 43 become a modified 34. None of those gap assignments change the fundamental plan.
But just claiming people are playing other roles to make things 34 all the time is reducing the defense to the point of absurdity. I mean, what is nickel but 3-4 defense right? You just have one light linebacker and one linebacker with his hand in the dirt.