Worst Moments in Patriots' History

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    I'd rank the SB loss to the Giants as first. The one thing all say is that, aside from Stingley, alot of these moments had to do with expectations. We think we can beat Indy or the Giants and that makes the loss that much more memorable. In contrast, even though I liked the 86 team it was pretty clear that the Bears were unstoppable. I routed for the Pats , but deep down inside and at the Casino there was no way the Bears D was going to be stopped. I used to think Grogan might have won that game, but again a check my fandom at the door and realise that only Brady would have even a remote chance against that D.
     
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    One I would bring up is Sam Cunningham breaking his leg.  He was never the same after that.  Must of been a nasty break.

     
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    Right you are, Hugh Millen. 

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    [QUOTE]good call on the denver game. the qb however was hue millen circa 1989 or 90
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    [QUOTE]Not sure I will EVER totally get over the loss to the Giants for the perfect season. That one stings deep, and probably always will. The Bruins helped ease that pain quite a bit this year!! ;-)
    Posted by tanbass[/QUOTE]

         I think that Tom Brady shares your problem...he's never gotten over that loss. Since then, he has torn up his knee, and not played well in the play-offs, going 0-2...seemingly playing in those games without his usual self-confidence. 
     
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    I have to be honest...the loss to the Giants in the SB was bad, but the loss to the Colts in '06 was worse for me.

    It was the COLTS, first of all--the whining maggots who had to use their GM's influence over the Competition Committee to get the rules changed in order to compete with the Pats in the first place.

    Then there were the circumstances during that game. The Pats were about to close the game out late in the first half, already up 21-3 and knifing through the Indy defense easily on their way to another score, when the phantom offensive P.I. call against Troy Brown snuffed out the drive, and the momentum turned.

    Still, the Pats' offense and special teams (not the injury-riddled defense, of course) did enough to hold off Indy in the second half, but the refs intervened again--twice--on Indy's behalf with the phantom "faceguarding" call in the end zone against Hobbs, and the the EGREGIOUS "no call" when Caldwell was blatantly grabbed in the end zone before the ball arrived on 3rd and goal with the score tied at 31 in the fourth quarter. A P.I. call there makes it first and goal, the Pats go up 38-31, and Manning's "game-winning" drive instead becomes a game-tying drive, leaving NE with 60 seconds, three timeouts, and needing only a FG from their 55+ yard FG kicker, indoors, to win the game and head back to the Super Bowl.

    That game will ALWAYS bother me more than any other loss, because I really feel that they were robbed (not deliberately, because I don't believe in officiating conspiracies--just officiating incompetence), and the loss came against their bitterest rival (before Ryan took over in New Jersey anyway).
     
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    [QUOTE]I agree , Hard Right. I have little respect for the Colts with how they forced themselves behind the scenes to try to sway the officials to get past NE. That was really tough to swallow because of the illegal faceguarding call. There has never been a rule totally made up during a game to influence the score in a Conf title game before. We saw Hochuli botch a call with Den/SD two years ago in a regular season, game but not when the home team, the team (the Colts) so infamously matches up so poorlty against NE.  Just disturbing. It's never happened. It's just a creepy feeling seeing the refs control the score like that. They did it on the Troy Brown PI call before half. They never, ever call WR picks in the NFL.  Hmmm.  NE was just rolling down the field, at worst in FG range, and all of a sudden a flag comes out. Troy started laughing, he knew it was a bagjob. And then the mauling by Hayden on Caldwell in the end zone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23oEg5ljBkY Hayden turns and puts his hands on Caldwell, body blocking him with his back to the QB, impeding Caldwell. That's classic PI.   How that is defensible is beyond me.  Hayden was beaten and Caldwell was impeded. I can live with seeing my team beaten like the Giants did, even if it was off a miracle play, but not a bagjob by the NFL/refs. The Colts got a minium of 11 points in their favor within these incorrect calls.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKing[/QUOTE]

    The worst part about the call on Brown is that it wasn't even a pick, really. He ran upfield a few yards, and he and the DB basically "jammed" each other with their hands, and both pretty much stopped dead in their tracks. Neither player was involved in the play and their actions had nothing to do with the result of the play, which was a Brady completion to Watson along the sidelines at the Colts' 20-yard line.

    Horrid, horrid call.

    That call hurt them more than any other in that game, because if the pass to Watson stands, they at least get three more points to make it 24-3 and, more importantly, they take the remaining time in the first half down to under a minute, probably, leaving Indy with no time to tack-on that FG they ended up getting before the half to make it 21-6.

    Biggest play of the game, by far.

    If they don't call that P.I. against Brown, NE runs away with that game. I remain convinced of that to this day.

    The faceguarding call against Hobbs was bad, but to be honest, I wasn't even aware that it was not in the rulebook until AFTER the game when the NFL apologized for making the call.

    The "no-call" against Caldwell was more important IMO. If they throw the flag there, it's probably 38-31, Pats, and all the Colts can do is tie the game after that, not win it. And like I said, Brady would have had about a minute, with all of his timeouts, to drive NE to about the Indy 35-yard line and set up Gostkowski--who was crushing and nailing ALL of his kicks during that post-season--for a game-winning FG attempt.

    Even if they don't score at the end, they were still guaranteed OT if the score were 38-38. The no-call against Caldwell guaranteed that they would only have 34 on the board at that point in the game, however. It was a big call (or no-call).

     
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    These lists are pretty comprehensive and I don't disagree with much of it. I would also rate the bag job in Indy higher than the loss to New Jersey (blue) in the Super Bowl (although you could make the case that the zebras were determined to give the Jints every opportunity to complete the "miracle" play).

    A few honorable mentions:

    Robert Weathers: And people wonder why guys don't want to go to the Pro Bowl.

    Lisa Olson: Remember the good ol' days, when the Pats were a running joke that everybody got?

    Tony Collins and the cocaine cowboys: I agree with the guy who said there was no way the Pats were going to beat the Bears in 1986. They won their Super Bowl against Miami, and that's fine, but these morons might have approached the biggest moment in their careers with a little less stupidity. If there were such a thing as a retroactive Len Bias Award (cringe), Collins would win it in a landslide.

    Ron Erhardt: Ron may not have been the most bumbling of an impressive list of bumblers who have led the Pats, but he was the face of ineptitude back in my wild misspent youth, when I was haunting Sullivan Stadium on a regular basis and before they began pricing guys like us out in favor of the tea-and-crumpets crowd.

    And let us not forget the guy who electrocuted himself trying to steal the goalpost after the Pats beat Cincinnatti to make the playoffs in '85.

     
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    Worst moment in Pats' history? The Ben Dreith call on Hamilton in 1976.  That was such a great Pats team.  That was the first year that the Pats seemed like a legitimate NFL team.  To have their season end on that bogus call was impossible to swallow.

    What made it so bad is the injustice of it.  For once it wasn't Patriot mismanagement or ineptness that led to disaster.

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/151769/team-highlights-1976-new-england-patriots

    2. The Fairbanks fiasco.

    3. The humiliation by the Bears in the Superbowl.

    4. Parcells not waiting until after the SB to be a traitor, and losing to Fav-re.

    5. Mike Haynes going to Oakland.

    6. Giving up a big lead to the Colts in the AFC championship game.

    7.The sure-handed Mosi Tatupu fumble in Denver because they had that game won and because it symbolizes the Pats' historic inability to win in Denver. 

    8. Playoff loss to Denver replete with bad calls and bad plays by normally dependable players: Brady, Kevin Faulk, and Troy Brown.

    9. Ravens playoff blowout at Gillette.

    10. Playoff loss to Jets at home last year.

     
    Honorable mention:

    -Victor Kiam buying Patriots
    -Rod Rust or Clive Rush being named Pats' head coach. Take your pick.
    -Pat Sullivan's meltdown in Oakland.
    -Boston Patriots becoming New England Patriots
    -Waiting two hours to leave Foxborough parking lot after first game played there despite having paid extra for "preferred parking"
    -Heart attack victim abused during MNF game leading to no MNF games in Foxborough for years.
    -Lisa Olson being allowed in Pats' locker room
     
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    [QUOTE]Worst moment in Pats' history? The Ben Dreith call on Hamilton in 1976.  That was such a great Pats team.  That was the first year that the Pats seemed like a legitimate NFL team.  To have their season end on that bogus call was impossible to swallow. What made it so bad is the injustice of it.  For once it wasn't Patriot mismanagement or ineptness that led to disaster. http://www.hulu.com/watch/151769/team-highlights-1976-new-england-patriots 2. The Fairbanks fiasco. 3. The humiliation by the Bears in the Superbowl. 4. Parcells not waiting until after the SB to be a traitor, and losing to Fav-re. 5. Mike Haynes going to Oakland. 6. Giving up a big lead to the Colts in the AFC championship game. 7.The sure-handed Mosi Tatupu fumble in Denver because they had that game won and because it symbolizes the Pats' historic inability to win in Denver.  8. Playoff loss to Denver replete with bad calls and bad plays by normally dependable players: Brady, Kevin Faulk, and Troy Brown. 9. Ravens playoff blowout at Gillette. 10. Playoff loss to Jets at home last year.   Honorable mention: -Victor Kiam buying Patriots -Rod Rust or Clive Rush being named Pats' head coach. Take your pick. -Pat Sullivan's meltdown in Oakland. -Boston Patriots becoming New England Patriots -Waiting two hours to leave Foxborough parking lot after first game played there despite having paid extra for "preferred parking" -Heart attack victim abused during MNF game leading to no MNF games in Foxborough for years. -Lisa Olson being allowed in Pats' locker room
    Posted by TampaPete[/QUOTE]

    What cracks me up about the roughing-the-passer call aftermath is the Raiders' players and coaches--people who never miss an opportunity to STILL complain about the Immaculate Reception, the "deliberately" frozen field in Pittsburgh during the '75 AFC title game, and the Rob Lytle fumble (definitely a blown call) in Denver in the '77 AFC title game--all of them except Stabler, pretty much "agree" with Dreith's call and claim that Sugar Bear "went to Stabler's head, and you can't do that."

    Fact is, Sugar Bear hit Stabler's ARM as he was releasing the ball, and the momentum carried his hand into the side of Stabler's neck, getting both a piece of his neck and the bottom of his helmet. The bottom line is that sort of thing was NEVER called back in the mid-70s, and Sugar Bear was just trying to block the pass as he came in on Stabler. The hit was not late and it wasn't a direct, deliberate blow to the head (it wasn't even a blow to the head--certainly not as severe a blow to the head as Charles Woodson's illegal, uncalled blow to Brady's head on the Tuck Rule play 25 years later).

    Stabler, like I said, is the only former Raider who's been man enough to admit they caught a break there. He said he'd been hit a lot worse than that in his career and hadn't seen a flag thrown.

    If the Pats can be blamed for anything after that, it was that they completely lost their cool after the call--and I believe were flagged again for unsportsmanlike conduct, even, which moved Oakland closer to the end zone (I could be wrong about that, but I remember reading it somewhere).

     
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    today was a pretty bad moment.........
     
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    [QUOTE]today was a pretty bad moment.........
    Posted by sday4x4[/QUOTE]
    Yes, today and Daryl Stingley are tied for worst.....
     
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    [QUOTE]These lists are pretty comprehensive and I don't disagree with much of it. I would also rate the bag job in Indy higher than the loss to New Jersey (blue) in the Super Bowl (although you could make the case that the zebras were determined to give the Jints every opportunity to complete the "miracle" play). A few honorable mentions: Robert Weathers: And people wonder why guys don't want to go to the Pro Bowl.
     
    RESPONSE: I think you mean RB Robert Edwards, Mike...whose career ended when he tore up his knee just prior to the pro-bowl, playing flag football on the beach in Hawaii. He was the Pats' #1 draft choice in 1998: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Edwards_(running_back)

    Lisa Olson: Remember the good ol' days, when the Pats were a running joke that everybody got?
     
    RESPONSE: Yes...sad days...LOL!!

    Tony Collins and the cocaine cowboys: I agree with the guy who said there was no way the Pats were going to beat the Bears in 1986. They won their Super Bowl against Miami, and that's fine, but these morons might have approached the biggest moment in their careers with a little less stupidity. If there were such a thing as a retroactive Len Bias Award (cringe), Collins would win it in a landslide.

    RESPONSE: I too agree. That loss never bothered me in the way that the one to the Giants and Colts did.  

    Ron Erhardt: Ron may not have been the most bumbling of an impressive list of bumblers who have led the Pats, but he was the face of ineptitude back in my wild misspent youth, when I was haunting Sullivan Stadium on a regular basis and before they began pricing guys like us out in favor of the tea-and-crumpets crowd.
     
    RESPONSE: Yes, indeed. "Fargo" was a joke. Remember the aluminium benches in Sullivan stadium??

    And let us not forget the guy who electrocuted himself trying to steal the goalpost after the Pats beat Cincinnatti to make the playoffs in '85.
    Posted by p-mike[/QUOTE]
     
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    Here's one...2008 when Miami unleashed the wildcat on us....http://www.60maxpowero.com/patriots/
     
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    It might be because its recent, but I'm going to put Myra krafts passing at number 1. 

    followed by losing to the jints, Bradys knee, losing to the pack.


     
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    Idk, That loss to the Colts in the AFC Championship might me the worst. Yes, 18-1 was horrible, but at least the other team actually outplayed them that day, as opposed to losing due to horrendous officiating.
     

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