Would you give up 2 firsts for Jimmy Graham?

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    Would you give up 2 firsts for Jimmy Graham?

    And how high would you go? Would you cut Vince to a this deal done?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000330128/article/saints-slap-jimmy-graham-with-nonexclusive-tag

     
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    And how high would you go? Would you cut Vince to get this deal done?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000330128/article/saints-slap-jimmy-graham-with-nonexclusive-tag

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    If his health checked out and he'd sign a long term deal, yes!

     
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    This is actually a tough call.  Would depend on how crazy his contract was.  If the money worked, 2 late firsts for a TE of that caliber would be pretty tempting.

     
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    The tag number for a TE is around $6.7 million, for a WR it is $11.5 million. If they determine he is a WR, that will be huge in determining how high the numbers go. Mike 'freakin' Wallace got $12 million a year last year. Graham might get into crazy territory, 13, 14, 15 million a year...

     
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    This is actually a tough call.  Would depend on how crazy his contract was.  If the money worked, 2 late firsts for a TE of that caliber would be pretty tempting.




    Imagine a healthy Gronk and a healthy Graham let loose in the end zone or down the seams?...wow....defintie TB's dream combo

     
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    NO WAY. No player is worth two firsts, if your goal is to build a good team.

     
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    No way. We already have too much invested at the position with Hernandez' dead money. Take your chances in the draft.

     
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    NO WAY. No player is worth two firsts, if your goal is to build a good team.

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    I would do it for a franchise QB and that is it. Maybe, maybe a stud DT in his prime.

     
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    2 first is a lot.. too much. But could you imagine Graham and Gronk together. WOW!

     
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    I would rarely give up 2 very good players for one very good player. Just the frequency of injury precludes it.

    Would I give up two likely to be late first round picks for this guy? I hesitate.

     
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    No way. We already have too much invested at the position with Hernandez' dead money. Take your chances in the draft.

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    ^This

    We do need to shore up TE, but not as much as some other areas.

     
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    Lot of love for Tight Ends, around here.

     
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    Ah,NO!

     
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    And how high would you go? Would you cut Vince to a this deal done?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000330128/article/saints-slap-jimmy-graham-with-nonexclusive-tag

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    no way. keep building a dominant defense and win by shutting down other teams and running the football. thats how to win a super bowl.

     
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    Nope! I wouldn't trade two firsts for AP either!

     
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    Nope! I wouldn't trade two firsts for AP either!

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    no RB ever may be worth 2 firsts at the age of 29.

     

     

    the only position worth two firsts is a franchise QB

     
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    If I am a bottom half NFL team, yes. 

     
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    Not saying I would do this, giving up two firsts plus a very large contract for Graham would be tough to swallow. But the fact that the Pats typically draft in the high 20's or 30's means you wouldn't be giving up 2 high (i.e. top 10) picks in this deal (or 3 like Washington did for RGIII). Having Graham and Gronk would sure up TE in case of an injury, but it would do more than that. One of them would likely be splitting wide in most formations creating all kinds of match up problems for DBs. This would also mean that signing another WR would probably not be necessary, saving money there. Remember the Pittsburgh game this year, the one game when almost everyone was reasonably healthy? The offense dominated. Think about the offense with a healthy Gronk, Graham, Ridley/Blount, Vereen, Amendola or Edelmann (I don't think both will be back) and some combination of Dobson/Thompkins/Boyce/Moe/some other player drafted or picked up after salary cap cuts are made. Those other guys are now your 4th or 5th option instead of 2nd or 3rd. 

     
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    Not saying I would do this, giving up two firsts plus a very large contract for Graham would be tough to swallow. But the fact that the Pats typically draft in the high 20's or 30's means you wouldn't be giving up 2 high (i.e. top 10) picks in this deal (or 3 like Washington did for RGIII). Having Graham and Gronk would sure up TE in case of an injury, but it would do more than that. One of them would likely be splitting wide in most formations creating all kinds of match up problems for DBs. This would also mean that signing another WR would probably not be necessary, saving money there. Remember the Pittsburgh game this year, the one game when almost everyone was reasonably healthy? The offense dominated. Think about the offense with a healthy Gronk, Graham, Ridley/Blount, Vereen, Amendola or Edelmann (I don't think both will be back) and some combination of Dobson/Thompkins/Boyce/Moe/some other player drafted or picked up after salary cap cuts are made. Those other guys are now your 4th or 5th option instead of 2nd or 3rd. 

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    good points.  It'd definitely be helpful to have two quality TEs like Gronk and Graham on the same field at the same time. Lots of matchup problems - and a much better productivity in the offensive red zone.  May bee to rich a price - plus, what about our needs on OL/DL, and dbs?

     
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    Not saying I would do this, giving up two firsts plus a very large contract for Graham would be tough to swallow. But the fact that the Pats typically draft in the high 20's or 30's means you wouldn't be giving up 2 high (i.e. top 10) picks in this deal (or 3 like Washington did for RGIII). Having Graham and Gronk would sure up TE in case of an injury, but it would do more than that. One of them would likely be splitting wide in most formations creating all kinds of match up problems for DBs. This would also mean that signing another WR would probably not be necessary, saving money there. Remember the Pittsburgh game this year, the one game when almost everyone was reasonably healthy? The offense dominated. Think about the offense with a healthy Gronk, Graham, Ridley/Blount, Vereen, Amendola or Edelmann (I don't think both will be back) and some combination of Dobson/Thompkins/Boyce/Moe/some other player drafted or picked up after salary cap cuts are made. Those other guys are now your 4th or 5th option instead of 2nd or 3rd. 

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    Agree. I would do it, but the thing that worries me is that Gronks health. Yes I know you do it for that. If I'm giving up 2 1's and paying big money Gronk needs to healthy. I don't think I take that chance. But something to think about. Graham's a great player I be tempted though. I'm split 50/50 me says yes then my mind says no. You also would be saying goodbye to Vince as well.

     
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    Re: Would you give up 2 firsts for Jimmy Graham?

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    No way. We already have too much invested at the position with Hernandez' dead money. Take your chances in the draft.

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    Exactly.

    On top of that I get concerned about players who disappear in big games like he did against the Pats and Seahawks.

     
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    In response to digger0862's comment:
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    No way. We already have too much invested at the position with Hernandez' dead money. Take your chances in the draft.

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    ^This

    We do need to shore up TE, but not as much as some other areas.

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    What are you talking about?  TE is probably our biggest need besides D-Line.  We don't have any healthy TE other than D.J Williams, and just re-signing Mulligan and Hoo man is not going to cut it.

     
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    No way

     
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    In response to BostonSportsFan111's comment:
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    And how high would you go? Would you cut Vince to get this deal done?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000330128/article/saints-slap-jimmy-graham-with-nonexclusive-tag

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    If his health checked out and he'd sign a long term deal, yes!

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         Heck no! Not only would the Pats have to part with two #1 picks, they also would have to pay him. If the Pats are going to go all out to get a player, I'd rather see them go after a top defender. 

     

     
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