Wow, Saints sticking it to Brees!

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    Wow, Saints sticking it to Brees!

    PER PFT

    If you think Drew Brees is a great quarterback, Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis apparently disagrees with you.

    According to a report from Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Loomis thinks Brees is very good, but not great. And therefore Loomis thinks Brees’s new contract should be commensurate with what a very good quarterback, but not a great quarterback, gets paid.

    Citing three league sources, Cole writes that Loomis made the distinction between Brees being “very good” and “great” in a recent discussion about the status of the soon-to-be free agent quarterback’s contract. When Loomis was asked why it was taking so long for the Saints and Brees to reach an agreement on a long-term contract extension, Loomis described Brees as “very good” when others called called him “great.”

    According to the report, Brees and the Saints are about $5 million a year apart on a new contract. Which is apparently the difference between what a great quarterback makes and what a very good quarterback makes.

     

    PER PFT

    So why does a $5 million annual gap exist between the Saints and quarterback Drew Brees?

    The Saints believe that, no matter how much Brees huffs and puffs, he’ll never hold out for any significant period of time.  Especially not in 2012.

    In 2012, the Saints and Brees will try to rebound from a special season that fell short of a Super Bowl because the team failed to secure home-field advantage in the playoffs.  In 2012, home-field advantage in the playoffs can be parlayed into home-field advantage in the Super Bowl, something no team ever has done in 46 prior Super Bowls.

    In 2012, the Saints need Brees to be fully engaged in order to have the kind of regular season that results in home-field advantage in the postseason.  And Brees knows it.  And the Saints are banking on Brees ultimately choosing his team over himself.

    Brees has said on multiple occasions that he’ll be with the Saints in 2012.  He has refrained from saying anything negative about the team throughout months of fruitless negotiations.  He has downplayed the potential drama that can arise from these negotiations.

    The Saints believe Brees will accept the franchise tag before the launch of offseason workouts, if that’s what it comes to.  More immediately, the Saints believe Brees will want to try to work out the best possible long-term deal, so that the Saints can instead use the franchise tag on Pro Bowl guard Carl Nicks.

    The Saints can get away with playing hardball because they fundamentally believe Brees won’t say or do anything that will paint him as anything less than an all-around good guy.  A guy who puts others before himself.  A guy who organized workouts during the lockout in order to ensure that the team will be ready for the 2011 season.

    Brees has crafted an image that now prevents him from taking the kind of action necessary to get the team’s attention.  He can’t hold out.  He can’t demand a trade.  He can’t try to make the case to the media that he deserves at least one-sixth of the entire salary cap allotment per year.

    The risk, of course, is that the Saints will push Brees to the point where he acts out of character.  But that would hurt Brees as much, if not more, than it would hurt the Saints.

    None of this changes the fact that Brees deserves to be paid among the best quarterbacks in the game.  Over the last six years, he has been the very best quarterback in the game.  But as other players have learned over the years, being the best doesn’t always mean getting the best contract.  To do that, the player must have leverage, and he must be willing to use it.

    Brees has leverage.  But the Saints are guessing that Brees won’t use it.  And the Saints probably are guessing right.

     
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    Re: Wow, Saints sticking it to Brees!

    Way to treat a top 3 QB!  Drew makes that team click and that's the way they treat him?  What a classy organization!!  He can't be feeling to good about his team right now!!
     
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    I couldn't agree more. He's been a top five QB for 5-6 years now. He's a leader. Work extremely hard. I've always rooted for him since I watched him play in college. He's come a long way. There have questions about his arm strength. His height. If he could amount to anything more than a play action QB. He's answered all off them and exceeded all expectations. To the point where he's the leader of team contending for a SB title year in , year out. He's the leader of maybe the best offense in football. Pay the man!
     
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    Loomis is right.
     
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    i was thinking that if brees isnt great than eli is definitely not elite
     
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    Clinical stupidity from the Saints on this one....Brees can throw it with anyone out there.
     
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    I assume the owner isn't actually that stupid and is just posturing for the sake of negotiation. But the media is not the place for that. Especially after everything Brees has done for that team. They were a perennial joke before Brees got there.

    This is a PR war they would not only lose, but get demolished on. If they are willing to let the best player to ever put on a Saints jersey walk over a 5 million a year pissing contest, they are insane. The second Brees leaves (whenever that happens)that team becomes irrelevant again.
     
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    In Response to Re: Wow, Saints sticking it to Brees!:
    [QUOTE]I assume the owner isn't actually that stupid and is just posturing for the sake of negotiation. But the media is not the place for that. Especially after everything Brees has done for that team. They were a perennial joke before Brees got there. This is a PR war they would not only lose, but get demolished on. If they are willing to let the best player to ever put on a Saints jersey walk over a 5 million a year pissing contest, they are insane. The second Brees leaves (whenever that happens)that team becomes irrelevant again.
    Posted by df5[/QUOTE]

    hehehehe..df5....just replace Brees with Brady on that one.

    And?......Someone please post a comment (or link) by Belichick about Tom Brady? Other than "Tom Brady is a good player and I'm glad we have him".

    If Belichick does get into the NFL HOF then there should be an * besides his name. Meaning this coach had Tom Brady as a QB for 13 years!! Huh?

    Belichick knows who has buttered his toast and so does Robert Kraft who knows the REAL truth.

    Have a good day!

     
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    Re: Wow, Saints sticking it to Brees!

    Not to split hairs, but I think the Pats are in a little bit better position to move forward with a new QB than the Saints would be. And the Pats already had a franchise QB that made the franchise relevant again and brought them to the Superbowl.

    On the other hand, the Saints had been pathetic for decades before Brees got there.

     But I get what you're saying.
     
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    Re: Wow, Saints sticking it to Brees!

    If I were Brees I'd sign the one year deal, but no more. The tag figure is up there where he needs to be paid. After the season if they do not make him a serious offer it would be 120% to sign him for 2013. And even tagged there could be teams who would fork over thier first and make him an offer the Saints couldn't (or wouldn't) match. It would be ironic if that happened and Brees came back with a new team to play in NO for SB47! I'm guessing the fallout with fans would cost a lot more than the $5 million they are trying to save!
     
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    Brees' number would be close to 20% of the cap. There are 52 other slots to fill. Good luck with that. Ask the Colts for advice...
     
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    I understood it that the Saints offered Brees same deal as TB and Manning....between $18 and $20 million. Brees want more. If Saints franchise Brees say goodbye to Nicks and Colston, maybe Vilma. Huge setback to franchise him. Remind me again, how much of a genius GM is BB? Saints, Colts, Steelers, soon to be Ravens. All will be done in by the cap. Pats just keep rolling along, year after year. No one manages the team cap better than BB. Kudos to Caserio, Reese and the entire team, but every decision this team makes has BB finger prints all over it. No question. NO QUESTION. BB best ever, including Lombardi, Noll, Landry....much harder era now than ever before.
     
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    Re: Wow, Saints sticking it to Brees!

    Not my concern...why yours?
     

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