WW/Collie

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    WW/Collie

    Is it just coincidental they both received multiple concussions while catching passes from Goober?

     
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    Yeah I'd say so.

     
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    noodle arm does that to WRs. you know, wobbly slow ducks coming at you..? yeah those get you killed.

     
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    Brady appears to get the ball to his receivers while they are in motion on their route and can get some YAC.  I notice on many pass plays for Manning, he throws to a spot at which the receiver needs to be and then they try to get some YAC.

     
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    Is it just coincedental they both received multiple concussions while catching passes from Goober?

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    Wow. You bring up an interesting factoid.

     
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    Not just Collie and Welker a number of his receivers got concussions. To expand on AGCS's comment, I noticed with Brady if he knows his WR is going to get whacked he puts the ball either in the air, towards the back, or by the foot to make sure the WR has to move in a way to limit hits to the head. Manning though I notice always puts it waist to shoulder height right infront leaving the WR's head in a direct collision path with the DB 

     
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    Not just Collie and Welker a number of his receivers got concussions. To expand on AGCS's comment, I noticed with Brady if he knows his WR is going to get whacked he puts the ball either in the air, towards the back, or by the foot to make sure the WR has to move in a way to limit hits to the head. Manning though I notice always puts it waist to shoulder height right infront leaving the WR's head in a direct collision path with the DB 

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    There might be something to your observation.  However, I believe TB's choice of location has more to do with his desire to limit the chance of a turnover than it does with him worrying about the chance that his receiver might get hurt.

     
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    Is it just coincidental they both received multiple concussions while catching passes from Goober?

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    Excellent point. I looked and noticed that pre 1999 WRs never had concussions.

     
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    Don't know about Welker, but Collie wasn't helped by Peyton. He just kept leading the guy into coverage until the guy started concussing himself.

     
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    Not just Collie and Welker a number of his receivers got concussions. To expand on AGCS's comment, I noticed with Brady if he knows his WR is going to get whacked he puts the ball either in the air, towards the back, or by the foot to make sure the WR has to move in a way to limit hits to the head. Manning though I notice always puts it waist to shoulder height right infront leaving the WR's head in a direct collision path with the DB 

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    There might be something to your observation.  However, I believe TB's choice of location has more to do with his desire to limit the chance of a turnover than it does with him worrying about the chance that his receiver might get hurt.

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    You could be right but I'm not sure I believe that. There are plenty of places he could put the ball to prevent a turnover and in fact most of the time the contact wouldn't come until after it reached the receiver so most of the time even throwing infront of the receiver wouldn't have resulted in a turnover (incomplete maybe if the ball got knocked out after the fact). But, it would be hard to believe Manning doesn't see the same thing and still throws dangerous passes if they have a chance to be int'd. On occassion when they really need the play we've seen Brady toss it into a place where the receive will get creamed, so that leads me to believe he knows where he's placing it and puts it in a place to protect his guys. I mean just look at how many concussions Brady's WRs have gotten vs Mannings. And you can't say that Manning isn't as accurate or as good with decision making over his career as Brady (regular season of course) so I have to believe it comes down to Brady wanting to protect his guys vs Manning wanting to get the plays and yrds at all cost

     
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    Is it just coincidental they both received multiple concussions while catching passes from Goober?

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    Excellent point. I looked and noticed that pre 1999 WRs never had concussions.

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    Too bad Gomie was drafted in 1998.  LMAO

    Get yer facts straight, loser.

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    Oh, so what you're saying is that 1999 is before 1998?  Wow, you've taken stupid to a new level.

     
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    It's the ducks Peyton throws that does it. 

    Allows defenders to get set and make the big hits.

     
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    I have noticed, even back to his best days with the Colts that he had a tendency to "leave his receivers out to dry" so to speak. You rarely see Brady throwing to a spot where it is obvious the guy is going to get lit up, or take a big headshot...especially when there are other options available. Just one of the reasons I think Brady is a better teammate then Peyton, he value the health and wellbeing of his comrades just as much as his own. 

     
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    Is it just coincidental they both received multiple concussions while catching passes from Goober?

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    Excellent point. I looked and noticed that pre 1999 WRs never had concussions.

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    How about you come back here on February 2nd when the Patriots win their 4th SB and admit you secretely have a man crush on Belichick and love the Patriots. Why else would you spend 15 hours a day on another teams forum. 

     
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    Brady sees the field better, throws a better ball and cares about his teammates.

     
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    Brady sees the field better, throws a better ball and cares about his teammates.

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    Agreed.

    He's especially deadly from the shotgun.

     

     
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    Goober and his brother Gomer have killed some pretty good WR's. It's how their father timed his throwing also to make sure they got whacked at the end of the play! the only players health the Pyle family cares about is their own. WW made a serious mistake when he signed on with the Pyle family as their go to guy! Ask Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks how they like being lead to slaughter by Gomer!! Brady isn't the best thrower but his passes are thrown with the intent of keeping his guys upright for a whole season!

     
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    Didn't Stokley have a bunch of concussions too?

     

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