RESPONSE: So...you're admitting that the following statement that you made to fellow poster CC was a lie: "CC - its just that I don't ascribe wins and losses entirely to one person in the most team of games as you do."...because you obviously do ascribe wins and losses entirely to one person...Peyton Manning.  
Dear boy - my statements about Manning being the difference between the colts success and failure and that I don't ascribe wins and losses to one person are not in contradiction with one another unless you wish ANGLE it that way.  You see the rest of the colts went ahead and played those 2012 games without Manning and in many of them came close to winning those games.  I absolutely believe that Manning would have been the difference maker in those games, but that is not to diminish entirely the efforts made by the rest of the team.  It is simply that Manning is more of a difference maker for his team than any other player is on any other team - although I believe Brady is very close to that now and has been for the past few years.  As I have noted before circumstances matter.  As I have also noted, you wish to find a lie.  you wish to assign a lie.  your bias makes your thoughts reckless and not incredibly cogent.  There is no lie TP.  


    RESPONSE: Oh really? You've just admitted in the first line of your post that it was a lie, when you said, "Well, you are actually right TP - my fault". So now, you're trying to cover up your lie by misdirecting the conversation. You're feeble points about Brady have nothing to do with your lie about not ascribing wins or losses to one person.  
Dear boy - I didn't admit that I lied.  I admitted that the crash of the colts was due to the loss of Manning, that's not admitting a lie.  It also doesn't ascribe, entirely, wins and losses to Manning.  Manning is the difference maker.  I will say this, however, Manning's presence is important to his team than any other player is to their team.  As much as you wish it, there is no lie. 

RESPONSE: Liar...spin all you like. If Manning's absence was the cause for the Colts' collapse, then he's directly responsible for all those playoff chokes over the years, that you and he have tried to pawn off on such things as bad weather, the Colts' defense, a bad kicking game, the Patriots roughing up his receivers, and OL malfunctions.            
There's no spin.  The point is Manning's absence demonstrated that he covered up many of the shortcomings of the team.  He can't be expected to cover them up every time, even when he has a good game.  He didn't call the timeout at the end of last year's playoff game vs. the Jets giving the Jets the time they needed to call one additional play and put themselves in good FG position.  Finally, nice effort at redirection - this wasn't a discussion of Manning's entire career.  Your redirections are about as subtle as jackhammer to the side of your head.