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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    Granderson does not hit for average not to mention he strikes out a ton and his stealing % is quite poor So, you value BA and CS% more than OPS and RBIs. You are a delusional homey.
    Posted by softylaw


    You forgot Runs Scored; I still think (so far, despite the recent power outage) it's AGon, with CG close behind, followed by Verlander, Bautista, Ells, Mig Cabrera, Pedroia, Young, and Ads Cabrera
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    No he isn't a team player ... that's why the Yanks lost all those games to the Sox.  Your boys swing for the fences, the Sox just have to pitch to prevent home runs.  And your guys, after losing 10 games, still haven't caught on.  Because that is all Granderson does.  Gonzo will hit a single or whatever just to get a run in.  granderson can't do that, he is just not that good a hitter.   His BA is 70 points lower than Gonzos, and Gonzo is in a slump.  Granderson is just not that good. 

    And babe, I said 40+ years ... thanks for proving my point.  And Granderson can come in second like Howard did, again, thanks for proving my point.  
     
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    Re: ESPN's ratings:

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    In Response to ESPN's ratings: : Oh well that settles it than, you showed us.
    Posted by Mikeyinthebronx2


    I didn't show anything, ESPN did .. I am sure in all your infinite wisdom you fancy yourself smarter than an entire sports network.  Because after all, you are a Yankee fan. 
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    Granderson does not hit for average not to mention he strikes out a ton and his stealing % is quite poor

    So, you value BA and CS% more than OPS and RBIs. You are a delusional homey.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    Granderson is not the AL MVP right now, but he's in the mix. Defensive metrics, along with of course the insightful critique of ESPN and MLB Network analysts, put Granderson as the worst fielding center fielder in the game. I'm not coming up with that out of thin air; they were just talking about it on ESPN. His batting average and OBP are far too low to be considered the MVP right now. He is surrounded by Teixeira, Cano, ARod (when he's healthy), and others, and that hurts his cause, just as it hurts the cause for Ellsbury or Gonzalez, but Ellsbury might have an edge as he's the table setter as the leadoff man rather than hitting in a power position and flanked by two other power hitters. If the Blue Jays end up with a winning record or especially if they have a quite decent record, and Bautista puts up huge numbers, then I think he's the favorite as he's the ONLY guy really in that lineup. Lind has been hurt for huge stretches of the season. Cabrera is right there too as the Tigers are the leaders in that division and doesn't have the hitting help that the Yankees and Red Sox have. If the Tigers make the playoffs, then I think Cabrera is right there with Bautista as the two favorites. Ellsbury is third and Granderson is fourth if he finishes with more HRs and RBIs than Gonzalez. There are your top five, and Granderson is most definitely NOT the shoe-in winner, far from it.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    BA is too low, sorry ... nobody with a BA that low has won in the last 40+ years.   Again, if it was just HRs then Dunn would have won a bunch.  Granderson is like Dunn.  A minus UZR player who just swings for the fences all the time. 
    Posted by soxmeister



    Agreed.  If you hit under .295 your odds for an MVP are 0.  Curtis needs to stop swinging for the fences every at bat and play some team ball.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    Granderson wins AL MVP, Red Sox win AL pennant, I'll take the latter any day as I am sure the sox players would as well.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    In Response to Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP : LOL...then how come agon hasn't been hitting a "single or whatever to get a run in"? He's in more than a slump, he has not been getting it done since the break, maybe the pressure has made him wilt. And it's the MVP award, not the highest batting average award. The MVP is the guy who makes the biggest contribution to his team, and right now it's Granderson.
    Posted by />.TheBabe.<


    Like I said, nobody wins it with that low a BA or with that low a WAR.   Granderson has had a fine year, but as ESPN and most other sites agree, he just isn't as valuable as you Yankee dreamers wish.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    In Response to Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP : Agreed.  If you hit under .295 your odds for an MVP are 0.  Curtis needs to stop swinging for the fences every at bat and play some team ball.

    Posted by saintJ

    LOL...I guess leading the majors in both RBI's and Runs Scored is not "team ball"?

    And ryan howard finished second to pujols in the voting a few years back with a .251 BA.

    Roger Maris won the MVP with a .267 BA

     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    In Response to Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP : Agreed.  If you hit under .295 your odds for an MVP are 0.  Curtis needs to stop swinging for the fences every at bat and play some team ball.
    Posted by saintJ


    Yeah he's not playing "team ball" by leading the league in runs, rbi's, triples and total bases.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    In Response to Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP : LOL...I guess leading the majors in both RBI's and Runs Scored is not "team ball"? And ryan howard finished second to pujols in the voting a few years back with a .251 BA. Roger Maris won the MVP with a .267 BA
    Posted by />.TheBabe.<


    If Pedroia can win the MVP, anyone can win it.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    He deserves it.... 
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    No doubt about it. Great all-around player.
    Posted by Mr.YankeeBabe


    a270 batting average mvp not likely
     
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    Re: ESPN's ratings:

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    1 Matt Kemp LAD CF 81.7 2 Ryan Braun MIL LF 80.6 3 Prince Fielder MIL 1B 79.0 4 Jose Bautista TOR RF 78.1 5 Adrian Gonzalez BOS 1B 77.5 6 Jacoby Ellsbury BOS CF 76.2   Miguel Cabrera DET 1B 76.2 8 Joey Votto CIN 1B 75.2 9 Curtis Granderson NYY CF 74.5 10 Justin Verlander DET SP 70.5
    Posted by soxmeister


    Oh well that settles it than, you showed us.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    BA is too low, sorry ... nobody with a BA that low has won in the last 40+ years.   Again, if it was just HRs then Dunn would have won a bunch.  Granderson is like Dunn.  A minus UZR player who just swings for the fences all the time. 

    Posted by soxmeister

    So you think a number 3 hitter who is hitting .314 since the break but has only managed to drive in 16 RBI's and score 17 runs since the break should win?

     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    What a joke topic!!  All he do is hit homeruns and strikeouts!!! 

    Elsbury will win the MVP easily!!

    14Jacoby EllsburyBOS50589158313227933114178.313.370.517.887

     

    2Curtis GrandersonNYY45911312920103497231065130.281.375.590.965
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    BA is too low, sorry ... nobody with a BA that low has won in the last 40+ years.   Again, if it was just HRs then Dunn would have won a bunch.  Granderson is like Dunn.  A minus UZR player who just swings for the fences all the time. 
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    "You forgot Runs Scored; I still think (so far, despite the recent power outage)"

    He never need to run to score runs.  Mark Texeria/Cano have been smacking alot of homeruns too where Granderson just jog around the base!!
     
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    ESPN's ratings:

    1Matt KempLADCF81.7
    2Ryan BraunMILLF80.6
    3Prince FielderMIL1B79.0
    4Jose BautistaTORRF78.1
    5Adrian GonzalezBOS1B77.5
    6Jacoby EllsburyBOSCF76.2
     Miguel CabreraDET1B76.2
    8Joey VottoCIN1B75.2
    9Curtis GrandersonNYYCF74.5
    10Justin VerlanderDETSP70.5
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    I don’t think any Sox player will win the award, dspite the seasons from Ellsbury, Pedroia and Gonzalez.  There is an old adage in football  - “If you have 2 quarterbacks, then you don’t have a quarterback.”  The same logic applies to MVP candidates.  These 3 will split votes among Boston players.  Two of them probably are among the top ten vote getters; none of them get the award.

    The top AL candidates who could take the award are Granderson and Bautista.  However, a very deserving name no one is mentioning who should also be a serious candidate is Ben Zobrist.  I think Justin Verlander is a dark horse, and an unlikely winner, but is certainly worthy of a mention.

     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

    Let him win it.  Just let the Yanks get knocked out early.
     
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    In Response to Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP : I promise I won't mention it the next time she calls.......
    Posted by />.TheBabe.<


    She's charitable thay way; calling those who need someone to talk to. It just disproves the myth that you never talked to a female.
     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    In Response to Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP : If Pedroia can win the MVP, anyone can win it.
    Posted by Mikeyinthebronx2


    You are implying that Pedroia didn't deserve it?  
     
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    No he isn't a team player ... that's why the Yanks lost all those games to the Sox.  Your boys swing for the fences, the Sox just have to pitch to prevent home runs.  And your guys, after losing 10 games, still haven't caught on.  Because that is all Granderson does.  Gonzo will hit a single or whatever just to get a run in.  granderson can't do that, he is just not that good a hitter.   His BA is 70 points lower than Gonzos, and Gonzo is in a slump.  Granderson is just not that good.  And babe, I said 40+ years ... thanks for proving my point.  And Granderson can come in second like Howard did, again, thanks for proving my point.  
    Posted by soxmeister

    Really? When you're 2nd in HRs (34), lead the league in RBIs (97), and Runs Scored (113, the guy who's 2nd has 90!). That's not what Gammons thinks.

    Here's guessing the uniform has something to do with it.

     
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    Re: Curtis Granderson will be the AL MVP

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    Granderson has a very good shot at MVP becauase no one on the Yanks team has played anywhere near as well as him, the rest have not stepped up. On the Sox, Ellsbury will split votes with Gonzalez and maybe Pedroia, thus giving the vote to Granderson. I care more about how wins in the postseason so Granderson can have the MVP and may the Yankees trolls hearts beat with misplaced pride.
    Posted by BostonTrollSpanker


    You mean like Teixeira & Cano? I'm not a stickler for awards either, and still think the MVP is AGon, FWIW, but are you telling me many RS fans don't care about this, when convenient? Give me a break. This stereotype falls flat.
     
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