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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    dumbazz thread
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    • Arod has been sharing the popcorn
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    Not only Martin apparently, but also Granderson, who is on pace to break Roger Maris AL home run record.
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    So lets look at every plausible scenario that could lead to a possible Yankee allegation over PED usage, and ignore any other possible players that could possibly be using PED's by prorating their entire season based off of the first few weeks.........because if someone like Lowrie or Beckett is performing well, it can only mean they have recovered from injuries and are playing at their potential but if other people are playing well they MUST be using PED's????

    this makes the most sense out of anything I have heard in here in a long time. 
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin:
    Martin has dealt with some injuries for a while hasn't he?
    Posted by Boomerangsdotcom


    Yes, just like how Mark McGwire dealt with some injuries in Oakland and then found the fountain of youth in St. Louis.
     
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    Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    Russell Martin hit only 5 home runs for the Dodgers last year and looked washed up.  No he comes to the Yankees and has 6 homers in 3 weeks.  Are we supposed to believe that he found the fountain of youth in the Bronx?  Or is it more likely that A-Rod introduced him to his friend, Dr. Galea?
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    Even the inmates at Guantanamo Bay wonder why Smiley has to use all these screen names.
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    The Yanks were so confident that Martin would pan out that they offered him a 1 year contract.

    With pitchers, PEDs add mph to the fastball and help with recovery (for relievers).  They don't help with pitch location and they don't cause a hanging curve ball to start curving.

    Lowry's performance is suspect, but less so because of his age.  He isn't an aging veteran who is putting up career numbers.  And he isn't huge.

    AGON is suspect because of his size - the dude is huge.  Pujols and Texeira are also on the list for the same reasons.  Pujols is also on the list because he's Dominican and so many of the really good players from the Dominican have been on the juice.

    Pedroia isn't on the list because he's played like this since he was in high school.

     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    I think we Redsox fans are not in the strongest position to complain about Yankee PED users right now. There is no reason to think that Martin or Granderson are PED users. We should give them their due. Granderson has been a class act since he came in the league and Russell Martin has shown the ability to hit for a long time now.
     
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    Martin has dealt with some injuries for a while hasn't he?
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin



    Russell Martin will not continue to hit .333 and Jed Lowrie will not be hitting .435 either.  


     
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    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin:
    I think we Redsox fans are not in the strongest position to complain about Yankee PED users right now. There is no reason to think that Martin or Granderson are PED users. We should give them their due. Granderson has been a class act since he came in the league and Russell Martin has shown the ability to hit for a long time now.
    Posted by Boomerangsdotcom


    You make a rational point. This whole post by Silly Betty  (oops, I mean his alias Dumb Obsession) is typical of his Yankee obsession. I don't think that either Martin or Granderson are on PED's anymore than Ellsbury who has hit a few home runs for us this month. Both Martin & Granderson will cool off soon.  
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    The Federal Investigation and trial of Bonds cost more than the 9/11 Commission. Really!

    If they want to juice, who really cares. It is their testicles, not mine.

    As to the OP - the conversation is so off base, it is not even funny.

    Oh wait - Beckett and Dice -K have pitched excellent games back-back. They are definitely on the juice. Tongue out
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    So basically, this thread is about finding another name to add to the ignore list.
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin:
    The Yankees have a history of guys finding the fountain of youth and putting up career numbers in the last year of their contracts.  In 2007, AROD put up numbers comparable to what he did when he was in Texas (admitted he was on the juice in Texas).  And Posada puts up his best power numbers in the final year of his contract and hasn't done anything since. This is why PEDS became a problem in the MLB to begin with - people put their head in the sand.  Mysteriously discovering (or rediscovering) power is a sign of PEDs.  And since this isn't a court of law and because of the league's history with PEDS, suspicion is warranted. I don't blame anyone for taking PEDs.  I's take them for a 4 year $70 million contract.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    I agree that PED's are a definite problem in MLB.  The Yankees certainly have players that have been aided by PED's but so have just about every other team including the Sox. It has been mentioned in previous posts that a person would have difficulty finding a world series winning team in the last 20 years that did not have a juicer on it in. Certain posters on this forum can't stop bringing up the Yankees, but make no mistake that this is a league wide problem. I could care less about the Yanks, my main concern is the Sox.
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    The Yankees have a history of guys finding the fountain of youth and putting up career numbers in the last year of their contracts.  In 2007, AROD put up numbers comparable to what he did when he was in Texas (admitted he was on the juice in Texas).  And Posada puts up his best power numbers in the final year of his contract and hasn't done anything since.

    This is why PEDS became a problem in the MLB to begin with - people put their head in the sand.  Mysteriously discovering (or rediscovering) power is a sign of PEDs.  And since this isn't a court of law and because of the league's history with PEDS, suspicion is warranted.

    I don't blame anyone for taking PEDs.  I's take them for a 4 year $70 million contract.
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    Sounds more like sour grapes to me since we have 2 catchers, neither of which can hit or play defense, and Theo passed on Martin. Even though I told him it was a huge mistake.
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin:
    Why can't people make accusations about PEDs?  Players admittedly took them.  Why wouldn't they still be taking PEDs that can't be tested?  The players are the ones that dirtied the game The entire reason Sosa, McGwire, Bonds were allowed to set Home Records was because no one made accusations about PEDs.  People should be questioning how clean players are. It's no different that speculating on which college players were given money to go to a school or were given grades to keep them eligible. But if you want to bury your head in the sand, then feel free to do so. 
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    If there was even the slightest hint of some kind of connection, then absolutely.  But you need some kind of smoking gun somewhere before you start pointing fingers. Accusation and speculation are two different things.

    So to point at Martin or Beckett now just because they seem to be leaning towards past numbers as opposed to what they did last year is completely hypocritical. Players work hard to come back from injuries or bad years. So let's try and give them the benefit of the doubt here.

    If everyone is now under the suspicion of PED use, then just legalize it. Don't get me wrong, I don't think fans owe players anything. The Players Union has earned our distrust. But if we are going to continue to love the sport, then we have to hope that MLB is doing the right thing when it comes to testing.
     
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    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin : On this day in 1961, Roger Maris hit his 1st of 61 home runs. Grandyson is way ahead of his pace.
    Posted by chain-reaction


    Rogers Maris did it clean, although with the yankees, you never know.
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin:
    Whatever it is that they are feeding Martin, I think they need to give some to Gardner and Posada.
    Posted by jesseyeric

    The Yankee pharmacy masters can only give the stuff out to so much of the team at one time, to avoid suspicion. It's all part of the big conspiracy. Tongue out
     
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    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin : The Yankee pharmacy masters can only give the stuff out to so much of the team at one time, to avoid suspicion. It's all part of the big conspiracy. 
    Posted by Flapjack07


    Don't forget the umpires who are paid to tip calls in the Yankees'  favor.
     
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    Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin

    In Response to Re: Welcome to the Yankee pharmacy Russell Martin:
    I don't think Martin is on PEDs or if he is, that it's a recent thing.  He's been great in the past but some questioned his head. No one is forcing anyone to participate in a thread discussing who is and who isn't on the juice.  It's a legitimate topic.  Again, the players brought it on themselves. Posters speculate all the time on BDC about the motivation of a player or a coach without having anything resembling insight on the issue.  There's nothing wrong with speculating about how a player prepares for a game. Just because some great Yankees in the recent past have admitted being on PEDs doesn't mean anything.  I think that the Yanks having more players that admitted to being on PEDS is natural simply because of the money involved.  the more money at stake, the larger the incentive to bend the rules. If someone were to give you 2 choices - either take PEDS and get a 5 year contract for $60 or be out of a job next year, which would you do? I don't have a problem with professional taking PEDs except for the influence it has on kids.  If a professional wants to take PEDS, then be my guest.  But what do you do with a 16 year old who wants to be a professional or a 17 year old in Single A ball who has high hopes.  That to me is where the morals of PEDs takes a beating.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    Cannot argue with you there.
     
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