Yankees Enter Their "Bridge Year,"

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    Man, I would never put down the Yankees before the season, they still have a ton of talent over there, and can make deals at any time if needed via trade.   This is the Yankees we are talking about.  Last time I looked they still have one of the best hitting lineups, the best reliever, and the best pitcher in the AL.   Not too shabby for a team in a "bridge" year.

     
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    Fans are lining up on the George Washington Bridge...
     
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    [QUOTE]Burrito - when did you become so annoying and why? Your attempts to be like Smiley are sad. At least he is somewhat original in his insanity. This crowning of the Sox which is taking place now better actually happen come Nov., 2011. If not, I fear that the Tobin Bridge will not be able to handle the weight of all the would-be jumpers.
    Posted by jesseyeric[/QUOTE]

    I guess he took Smiley's suggestion to heart. 
     
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    Here we have it folks, the money train has come to a grinding halt.  Not that management is unwilling to spend but that an entirely unexpected new development has occurred - players don't want any part of the Apple.
     
    That's pretty misleading.  Based on credible reports only one major free agent (Cliff Lee) spurned the Yankees for another team.  His signing had less to do with NY, than his desire to pitching in Philly--a city he apparently learned to love over a few short months.
    Andy Petite is doing his best Rocket impersonation and could likely retire. Even if he does not, he is a year older and damaged goods.  Cashman even has gone public that Petite is likely gone.

    Pettitte has been mulling retirement for a couple of years now.  While the Yankees were hopeful he would return, they haven't relied on it.  I'm sure they're much more hopeful now that so many of their potential targets have come off of the board in recent days.
    Cliff Lee?  Well we know what happened here.

    See above.  While it's surprising he didn't go to NYY, it's not as scandalous as the media and most Red Sox fans think it is.
    Kerry Wood?  AKA "Lights Out" walked without hesitation.  I am not even sure the Yankees were bright enough to try and keep him around.

    Kerry Wood?  He never wanted to leave the Cubs.  He took less money to go back to the organization he came up with.  The Yankees weren't the only ones who got turned down.  The White Sox offered him $3.5M.  He took $1.5M from the Cubs instead.
    Carl Crawford?  We can assume here the Yankees never expected the Red Sox to anti up for a second helping of top dollar additions for the 2011 season. Quite certain here the Yankees figured in the end they would just sign a big check (besting Art Moreno) to ink Carl, and were in no rush to do so. Complete blind side here.  it is a Yankee tactic to never make the first offer, they find it more sporting to top offers - letting the other teams do all the work.

    There isn't any credible source showing that the Yankees had anything more than a passing interest in Crawford.  In fact, they may've met with the Crawford and his agent only to drive up the price on the Sox and Angels.  The Yankees had their guns pointed at Lee.  If Crawford was still on the board when Lee signed with the Phillies, they might've tried to make a move.  That didn't happen, so we'll never know.  All you're doing is speculating.
    Rivera was an obvious choice to bring back - and the perfect gentleman not to get into the mud pit over the last dollar.  Otherwise the Yankees would have messed this up too.

    But they didn't mess this one up.  I'm not understanding your complaint.
    Derek Jeter will forever have a bruised ego, and I have seen more than enough Yankee fans hold it against him for his stance in the negotiations.

    The Yankees had every right to stand pat with him.  He's not worth the money he and Casey Close believed him to be worth--at least not in terms of on the field value.  Did the Yankees make mistakes?  Absolutely.  The way both sides played the negotiatons out in public was incredibly sad and childish.  Jeter got caught in the middle of a war of words, and got bruised.  That said, if Jeter had been more realistic about his future performance, the negotiations would've gone much smoother. 

    Still, no one should hold Jeter's stance against him either.  He has every right to request the numbers he requested.  Plus, he kept his mouth shut the entire time.  He was the bystander caught in the midst of the crossfire.  If Yankee fans hold it against him, then they're the ones with the issue--not Jeter.
    In all the Yankees can make all the trade deadline moves their hearts desire as they will already be 18.5 games out of the race.

    That's so far from the truth, it's not even funny.  A lot can happen between now and Opening Day.  Lester could tear his UCL.  Adrian Gonzalez could shatter his ankle. The Yankees could make a big unexpected trade.  We don't know.  On paper the Red Sox look like a great team, but the Yankees still look like a lock for 90 wins as well. 

    A bridge to nowhere?  I doubt it.  Albert Pujols will be their target for the winter of 2011-12.

    Where will the Yankee play Pujols?  First base?  Nope.  Mark Teixeira owns that spot for the next five years.  DH?  One, why would you waste your DH slot on a Fielding Bible Award quality defensive first baseman?  Second, that's where A-Rod will start playing in a couple of years--if not 2012.  So where does that leave?  The outfield?  Well, ok, but he hasn't played there since 2003, so that doesn't seem like a good fit at all.  Also, I'd be apprehensive about moving a first baseman who's on the wrong side of 30 to a more challenging defensive position, but that's just me.  Forgive me, but I don't see a place for him on the Yankees unless some huge trade occurs.

    You know I like you Burrito, but this post was way off.  It comes off as being anti-Yankee propaganda.  While I expect this out of SPC1988, I expect more out of you--even if it is posts about how awesome you think you are.  Cool
     
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      BRIDGE YEAR ??  HEL*,  THE YANK$ ARE ABOUT TO JUMP OFF THAT BRIDGE !!!!!  SO MUCH $$$$$$, BUT YET SO OLD !!!!
     
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    [QUOTE]Here we have it folks, the money train has come to a grinding halt.  Not that management is unwilling to spend but that an entirely unexpected new development has occurred - players don't want any part of the Apple. Andy Petite is doing his best Rocket impersonation and could likely retire. Even if he does not, he is a year older and damaged goods.  Cashman even has gone public that Petite is likely gone. Cliff Lee?  Well we know what happened here. Kerry Wood?  AKA "Lights Out" walked without hesitation.  I am not even sure the Yankees were bright enough to try and keep him around. Carl Crawford?  We can assume here the Yankees never expected the Red Sox to anti up for a second helping of top dollar additions for the 2011 season. Quite certain here the Yankees figured in the end they would just sign a big check (besting Art Moreno) to ink Carl, and were in no rush to do so. Complete blind side here.  it is a Yankee tactic to never make the first offer, they find it more sporting to top offers - letting the other teams do all the work. Rivera was an obvious choice to bring back - and the perfect gentleman not to get into the mud pit over the last dollar.  Otherwise the Yankees would have messed this up too. Derek Jeter will forever have a bruised ego, and I have seen more than enough Yankee fans hold it against him for his stance in the negotiations. In all the Yankees can make all the trade deadline moves their hearts desire as they will already be 18.5 games out of the race. A bridge to nowhere?  I doubt it.  Albert Pujols will be their target for the winter of 2011-12.
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]




    Pujols?
    Is he gonna pitch for them?


     
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    I don't think it's a great idea to set up the Yankees as underdogs.
     
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    "I think Crawford WAS the Yank's Plan B."

    No he wasn't, that's speculation from sports writers at best.  The Yankees had one priority this off season. Lee.  He decided the Phillies were a better fit for him.  Basically, the Yankees were/are looking for a starter and getting Crawford doesn't address that at all.   

    "Gardner is no way close to the player CC is."

    Defensively they are nearly identical. Look at their respective offensive numbers. Crawford hits for more power sure but he wasn't signed as a power hitter. Crawford is a play maker who will have to adjust because the RS aren't a small ball make things happen team.  The Yankees are even less so.   

    "Theo's move was in part a strategic one to block the Yankees."

    Then it was a wasted move.  Unless the Yankees got Crawford at a bargain, for a lot less than he eventually signed, for I've seen nothing to indicate that he was an option for the Yankees.

     
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    [QUOTE]if they could get Pujols...why wouldn't they just find a way to move Tex??....seems like that is what they could do.

    Posted by sday4x4[/QUOTE]

    And that would solve their starting rotation issues how?

     
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    The Yankees made a big move. They paid Derek Jeter 10 times more than anyone else in baseball would have offered him.
     
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    "Check out my new baseball blog:

    http://billybeaneismyhero.blogspot.com"

    Think I'll pass on your suggestion and if you would be so kind as to cease advertising here it would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    [QUOTE]if they could get Pujols...why wouldn't they just find a way to move Tex??....seems like that is what they could do.
    Posted by sday4x4[/QUOTE]

    Could be, but it might also cost the NYY some big $$$ to offload him.
     
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    Wow, your analysis of the Yankees is astoundingly inaccurate. And, on every point, so you have that going for you too.

    "... players don't want any part of the Apple."

    Really?  One guy turns the Yankees down in 20 years, (Maddux in 92), and now the Yankees are not a good place to be.  That logic is irrefutable inasmuch as your notion is completely devoid of logic.  And, Lee might have left more guaranteed money with the Yankees but his salary per year is greater with the Phillies.

    "Kerry Wood?  AKA "Lights Out" walked without hesitation.  I am not even sure the Yankees were bright enough to try and keep him around."

    Wood turned down more money from the Yankees and other teams to return to his home in Chicago.  

    "Carl Crawford? We can assume..."

    And you'd be wrong.  The Yankees never had more than a passing interest in Crawford.  Their only need going into the off season was starting pitching.  They passed on him like they passed on Beltran when he went to the Mets. There is no point in paying Crawford tens of millions a year when you have the Gardner who with the exception of about 10-15 HRs a year is the same player with a better OBP and younger and will likely make less than a million next year.

    The RS made good moves this off season but keep in mind they had to.  The offensive production that left was just about replaced, .. of course at about twice the money.  And, neither of the big acquisitions can pitch so the RS still have their work cut out for them.

    " In all the Yankees can make all the trade deadline moves their hearts desire as they will already be 18.5 games out of the race."

    Not with the RS starting rotation.  That's just wishful thinking of the part of the Nation.  


     
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    [QUOTE] "Carl Crawford? We can assume..." And you'd be wrong.  The Yankees never had more than a passing interest in Crawford.  Their only need going into the off season was starting pitching.  They passed on him like they passed on Beltran when he went to the Mets. There is no point in paying Crawford tens of millions a year when you have the Gardner who with the exception of about 10-15 HRs a year is the same player with a better OBP and younger and will likely make less than a million next year. Posted by heobrien[/QUOTE]

    I disagree, I think Crawford WAS the Yank's Plan B. Gardner is no way close to the player CC is. Theo's move was in part a strategic one to block the Yankees.
     
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    [QUOTE].  Last time I looked they still have one ... the best pitcher in the AL.   Posted by soxmeister[/QUOTE]

    I didn't see any news articles talking about Felix Hernandez being traded to the Yankees.  Source please.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Yankees Enter Their "Bridge Year," : I didn't see any news articles talking about Felix Hernandez being traded to the Yankees.  Source please.
    Posted by SleeStack1[/QUOTE]


    Sorry, the source of your passive aggressive behavior is beyond me.   Maybe you should enroll in charm school?  
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Yankees Enter Their "Bridge Year," : Sorry, the source of your passive aggressive behavior is beyond me.   Maybe you should enroll in charm school?  
    Posted by soxmeister[/QUOTE]

    You would do yourself service if you defined 'best pitcher'.

    I choose to go with the reigning AL Cy Young Award winner as the 'best pitcher in the AL'.  If you explained your rationale behind claiming CC 'best', perhaps I could see your logic.

    Are you genuine in your concern regarding 'charm' school?  Or is your hippocritical backlash ill-willed? If you provide a link to this type of institution, maybe I can reserve you a seat.
     
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    Re: Yankees Enter Their "Bridge Year,"

    You have to admit RSF791's post is mostly about refuting the opinion (and wishful thinking) that the Yankees are a hapless bunch of hacks who bolloxed the whole offseason.  They missed on their primary target, but they have the resources to trade or acquire other pitchers who will round out the back end of their rotation. 

    Can we dispense with the Yankees are dead wishful thinking?  They'll be right there when the season starts.  CC-Hughes-Burnett-?-? may look good to Sox fans in December, but they'll find a serviceable 4 and 5 for their rotation.

    I hate the Yanks as much as anyone, but I'm not stupid enough (debatable to some of you I'm sure) to assume losing out on Lee is gonna make them cry themselves to sleep while in the foetal position.     
     
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    great post mikenagy-eatsworms
     
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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzdQer1gvsU
     
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    Burrito - when did you become so annoying and why? Your attempts to be like Smiley are sad. At least he is somewhat original in his insanity.

    This crowning of the Sox which is taking place now better actually happen come Nov., 2011. If not, I fear that the Tobin Bridge will not be able to handle the weight of all the would-be jumpers.
     
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    [QUOTE]Here we have it folks, the money train has come to a grinding halt.  Not that management is unwilling to spend but that an entirely unexpected new development has occurred - players don't want any part of the Apple. Andy Petite is doing his best Rocket impersonation and could likely retire. Even if he does not, he is a year older and damaged goods.  Cashman even has gone public that Petite is likely gone. Cliff Lee?  Well we know what happened here. Kerry Wood?  AKA "Lights Out" walked without hesitation.  I am not even sure the Yankees were bright enough to try and keep him around. Carl Crawford?  We can assume here the Yankees never expected the Red Sox to anti up for a second helping of top dollar additions for the 2011 season. Quite certain here the Yankees figured in the end they would just sign a big check (besting Art Moreno) to ink Carl, and were in no rush to do so. Complete blind side here.  it is a Yankee tactic to never make the first offer, they find it more sporting to top offers - letting the other teams do all the work. Rivera was an obvious choice to bring back - and the perfect gentleman not to get into the mud pit over the last dollar.  Otherwise the Yankees would have messed this up too. Derek Jeter will forever have a bruised ego, and I have seen more than enough Yankee fans hold it against him for his stance in the negotiations. In all the Yankees can make all the trade deadline moves their hearts desire as they will already be 18.5 games out of the race. A bridge to nowhere?  I doubt it.  Albert Pujols will be their target for the winter of 2011-12.
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]

    Wow, so much stupidity in one post.  Smiley-Beni must be proud.
     
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    Besides the obvious trolls who like to ruin anything and everything that is good about a Red Sox forum, I hope everybody has a great holiday season ... even you, lizard breath.  
     
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    Re: Yankees Enter Their "Bridge Year,"

    Recognizing that by the time I get this posted the Yankees will probably have found a way to resurrect Babe Ruth and attach Cy Young's arm to him - the Y's DO seem to pull off the impossible! - I think the title of this thread may be close to true, and there's nothing wrong with that.  Given what's available and the price that it's commanding, the Y's may have decided to plan to become the Sox of the past couple of years and be content to win the WC, getting themselves into the playoffs and then hoping for the best.

    I think that may be a good short-term strategy for them.  I've always wondered if possibly that was one reason why the Sox always finished second, that rather than have a long-term plan that would make them champions in a couple of years the Sox would put the best team they could together NOW and worry about next year - next year. 

    IF this is their plan I'm sure the Y's will be back stronger than ever in 2012.  This is, after all, a team with a solid long-term strategy, and things won't fall apart in Yankee Stadium overnight. 
     

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