In response to JIMMYPROFFER's comment:
In response to royf19's comment:
By the way -- congrats all.
I really don't have any problem with the Sox honoring all four. The Red Sox Hall is a different animal than the overall Hall of Fame.
So with Clemens, I can look at what he did with the Red Sox and just that.
As for Nomar, yeah, I think he was a PED guy with the Red Sox, but he's not going into the overall Hall and w/o anything other than my suspicians, I'll cut him some slack. Besides, he'll always have to live with knowing how he screwed up 2004 and missed out on what happened.
Exactly how did he "screw up".
The Sox tried to trade for afraud and also tried to trade Nomar to the ChiSox and failed to get either completed.
Whatever we think of A-Rod now, he hardly had that reputation then, so I'm not sure why you feel the need to phrase it like that. Nomar turned down a big contract, Manny was a headache back then -- first thing he ever said to John Henry after Henry bought the team and introduced himself to Manny was to complain about Boston and wanting out -- so the Sox tried to trade for a player considered to be the best in the game.
Nomar sulked. Yes he had injuries, but if he put the business side of baseball aside and not been a dugout cancer (from all accounts now and at the time, so there's hardly revisionist history taking place), he might not have been traded and could have been apart of a great ending.
Who's to say if it would have ended the same, but Nomar did play 43 games after the trade (Cabrera 58) and had better numbers than Cabrera with the Sox and after the trade, so there still could have been a great ending that year that Nomar could have been a part of.
So yes, Nomar screwed up.
By they way, I didn't want the A-Rod trade. I never really liked him -- at least after he signed with the Rangers. I never begrudge a player from maximizing his value, but there still was something obsene about the Rangers' contract, especially considering the Mariners were an excellent team at the time and offered him a great contract too.