Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

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    Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    Great News thoughts?

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    Drew was solid with the glove, and his bat was all but non-existant. He was part of a world champion team. I am happy to make a change at this position though.

    Good news for me, but I thank him for helping this team win.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    No problem. Drew isn't coming back so that is good news, time to move on man - we won the World Series. No need to trash him anymore. Geez. Foot in Mouth

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    I'm happy with the draft choice.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    Another Scott Boras production.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to EnchiladaT's comment:
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    Drew was solid with the glove, and his bat was all but non-existant. He was part of a world champion team. I am happy to make a change at this position though.

    Good news for me, but I thank him for helping this team win.

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    Actually, he had a great bat.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    I don't think it is guaranteed, but I'd be pleased if he declined.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    Well this is true isn't it? They would not have kept Jeter more than a few years! I don't care much for Drew but like Cabrerra he helped us win. 3 years of more Drew would not be the worse thing to happen... especially if we upgrade our offense in the OF or at 1B.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to tvfrank's comment:
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    No team has a worse record of keeping good SS's than Boston.

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    No team has had more busts there as well.

    Players who did well before coming here, but not here.

    Players that did well once they left here.

    Players that did both.

     

    Was Lugo good when we dumped him?

    Did anyone really want Renteria to stick around?

    Scutaro was no longer a SS when we dumped him.

    You want to give Farrell back to Toronto for Aviles?

    Lowrie is better at 2B or 3B.

    Iggy is one I wish we'd have kept, but the jury is still out on that one.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    I suspect the Red Sox will still try to sign Stephen Drew because the Sox, unhindered by a lost draft pick, may likely make the best offer. If Drew departs, the Red Sox probably would need to look for a replacement because it would be too risky to go into 2014 with Will Middlebrooks and Xander Bogaerts on the left side of the infield.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    In response to tvfrank's comment:
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    No team has a worse record of keeping good SS's than Boston.

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    No team has had more busts there as well.

    Players who did well before coming here, but not here.

    Players that did well once they left here.

    Players that did both.

     

    Was Lugo good when we dumped him?

    Did anyone really want Renteria to stick around?

    Scutaro was no longer a SS when we dumped him.

    You want to give Farrell back to Toronto for Aviles?

    Lowrie is better at 2B or 3B.

    Iggy is one I wish we'd have kept, but the jury is still out on that one.

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    The jury has just rendered a verdict. A bad trade. A deadline panic move. We gave up a sensational young shortstop for a past his prime pitcher. The spin is that Peavy helped us win a championship. The truth is that he had little to do with it. Whatever he contributed, Workman or Doubront could have done as well or better. 

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to dgalehouse's comment:
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    In response to tvfrank's comment:
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    No team has a worse record of keeping good SS's than Boston.

    [/QUOTE]

    No team has had more busts there as well.

    Players who did well before coming here, but not here.

    Players that did well once they left here.

    Players that did both.

     

    Was Lugo good when we dumped him?

    Did anyone really want Renteria to stick around?

    Scutaro was no longer a SS when we dumped him.

    You want to give Farrell back to Toronto for Aviles?

    Lowrie is better at 2B or 3B.

    Iggy is one I wish we'd have kept, but the jury is still out on that one.

    [/QUOTE]

    The jury has just rendered a verdict. A bad trade. A deadline panic move. We gave up a sensational young shortstop for a past his prime pitcher. The spin is that Peavy helped us win a championship. The truth is that he had little to do with it. Whatever he contributed, Workman or Doubront could have done as well or better. 

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    The jury just hung itself.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to dgalehouse's comment:

    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    In response to tvfrank's comment:
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    No team has a worse record of keeping good SS's than Boston.



    No team has had more busts there as well.

    Players who did well before coming here, but not here.

    Players that did well once they left here.

    Players that did both.

     

    Was Lugo good when we dumped him?

    Did anyone really want Renteria to stick around?

    Scutaro was no longer a SS when we dumped him.

    You want to give Farrell back to Toronto for Aviles?

    Lowrie is better at 2B or 3B.

    Iggy is one I wish we'd have kept, but the jury is still out on that one.

    [/QUOTE]

    The jury has just rendered a verdict. A bad trade. A deadline panic move. We gave up a sensational young shortstop for a past his prime pitcher. The spin is that Peavy helped us win a championship. The truth is that he had little to do with it. Whatever he contributed, Workman or Doubront could have done as well or better. 

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    You dont know that. I love when fans say "x" WOULD have happened or "could have done better" like it was going to happen.  Even if likely, you dont know that. No one knows what WOULD have happened.  Middlebrooks "could have done better" than Papi as DH the whole playoffs, too, right?

    However what DID happen was, Iggy didnt help Detroit get past Boston, something a lot of people thought "would" happen.  And, the final conglomeration of players, including Peavey, WON THE WORLD SERIES.

    That's all you "know."  I don't care what Peavey/Iglacias do for the rest of their careers. It was about winning, this year. Mission accomplished.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to EnchiladaT's comment:

    Well this is true isn't it? They would not have kept Jeter more than a few years!




    Really? The Red Sox had a Jeter-level SS that they got rid of after a few years? I was under the impression they just dumped deadwood like Lugo and Renteria.  When was this Jeter-level SS playing that makes you know this?

    And I thought I was actually watching the games.

     

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to tvfrank's comment:
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    No team has a worse record of keeping good SS's than Boston.

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    And no team has a better record at winning World Series within the last 10 years than Boston.  So, I guess that keeping good SS's is not essential to team success.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to dgalehouse's comment:
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to tvfrank's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    No team has a worse record of keeping good SS's than Boston.

    [/QUOTE]

    No team has had more busts there as well.

    Players who did well before coming here, but not here.

    Players that did well once they left here.

    Players that did both.

     

    Was Lugo good when we dumped him?

    Did anyone really want Renteria to stick around?

    Scutaro was no longer a SS when we dumped him.

    You want to give Farrell back to Toronto for Aviles?

    Lowrie is better at 2B or 3B.

    Iggy is one I wish we'd have kept, but the jury is still out on that one.

    [/QUOTE]

    The jury has just rendered a verdict. A bad trade. A deadline panic move. We gave up a sensational young shortstop for a past his prime pitcher. The spin is that Peavy helped us win a championship. The truth is that he had little to do with it. Whatever he contributed, Workman or Doubront could have done as well or better. 

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    Everything you just wrote here is spin too.  The result was the Red Sox won a World Series without Iggy.  Maybe the Red Sox still would have won without Peavy, but to imply that Workman and Doubront would have filled the role as starters is a big stretch.  You also fail to take into account that if either Workman and Doubront started, they wouldn't be available for the key roles they played in extra relief support.  Any way you cut it, Dempster would have had a bigger role to play if Peavy wasn't there.  I was glad that Dempster was pitching mopup, which is where he belonged.

     

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    In response to SoxFanInIL's comment:
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    In response to dgalehouse's comment:
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to tvfrank's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    No team has a worse record of keeping good SS's than Boston.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    No team has had more busts there as well.

     

    Players who did well before coming here, but not here.

    Players that did well once they left here.

    Players that did both.

     

    Was Lugo good when we dumped him?

    Did anyone really want Renteria to stick around?

    Scutaro was no longer a SS when we dumped him.

    You want to give Farrell back to Toronto for Aviles?

    Lowrie is better at 2B or 3B.

    Iggy is one I wish we'd have kept, but the jury is still out on that one.

    [/QUOTE]

    The jury has just rendered a verdict. A bad trade. A deadline panic move. We gave up a sensational young shortstop for a past his prime pitcher. The spin is that Peavy helped us win a championship. The truth is that he had little to do with it. Whatever he contributed, Workman or Doubront could have done as well or better. 

    [/QUOTE]


    You dont know that. I love when fans say "x" WOULD have happened or "could have done better" like it was going to happen.  Even if likely, you dont know that. No one knows what WOULD have happened.  Middlebrooks "could have done better" than Papi as DH the whole playoffs, too, right?

    However what DID happen was, Iggy didnt help Detroit get past Boston, something a lot of people thought "would" happen.  And, the final conglomeration of players, including Peavey, WON THE WORLD SERIES.

    That's all you "know."  I don't care what Peavey/Iglacias do for the rest of their careers. It was about winning, this year. Mission accomplished.

    [/QUOTE]


    Absolutely! Great post.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    Stephen Drew and Pedroia play so well together, and are so in sync with each other that we had more double plays than I ever remember happening -- especially in the postseason. I think removing Drew changes Pedey's game as he relies on the SS for some of the plays. I would bet that Pedey doesn't want Drew gone. And I don't want Drew gone.

    The last thing I want is some bumbling prospect, with no real experience at a ML level, to be our starting SS. Inglesias was awful in the postseason, and no amount of admiration for him can change that. He bumbled balls, one that should have been a double play that wound up loading the bases for Victorino's grand slam. He missed a ball hit directly at him to end a game. He struck out to end a game. He wasn't better than Drew who saved alot of runs in games with his exceptional plays. Those are the facts.

    If we had Inglesias instead of Drew, I think that changes everything. They had the players they needed at the positions they needed them in. 'nuff said.

     
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    Re: Stephen Drew will not accept the qualifying offer that Boston made him!

    Predictable and predicted.  I suspect that was Ben's plan all along i.e. get a performance on the cheap then get a draft pick.  

     
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