Ugly but the Sox need to let Bradley finish the year as the everyday centerfielder

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    Ugly but the Sox need to let Bradley finish the year as the everyday centerfielder

    How else can they evaluate before seasons end?

     
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    Re: Ugly but the Sox need to let Bradley finish the year as the everyday centerfielder

    Because the whole season and some of last season wasn't enough??

     
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    seriously he is what he is...even if he got hot the last few months, would you really think he turned the corner? he's a great defender, thats about it

    As always - 100% correct!

     
     
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    It is getting painful to watch. He is just lost at the plate. Obviously pressing at this point. I am sure that he is a better hitter than he has shown. The question is: How long can you go with him?    When we let Ellsbury go , we committed to Jackie as our centerfielder . I think we have to wait a little longer. Give him every chance to turn it around.  

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    Re: Ugly but the Sox need to let Bradley finish the year as the everyday centerfielder

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    How else can they evaluate before seasons end?

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    Good field, no hit; an evaluation as old as the game of baseball. An automatic out (mostly strike outs) every time through the ordr. That's not evaluation. That's quitting. As Ortiz said the other day, "we're not pkaying for numbers and paychecks; we're playing to win."

     
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    It is getting painful to watch. He is just lost at the plate. Obviously pressing at this point. I am sure that he is a better hitter than he has shown. The question is: How long can you go with him?    When we let Ellsbury go , we committed to Jackie as our centerfielder . I think we have to wait a little longer. Give him every chance to turn it around.  

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    At the expense of the rest of the players, and the fans who pay to see good baseball? I don't think so.

     
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    It is getting painful to watch. He is just lost at the plate. Obviously pressing at this point. I am sure that he is a better hitter than he has shown. The question is: How long can you go with him?    When we let Ellsbury go , we committed to Jackie as our centerfielder . I think we have to wait a little longer. Give him every chance to turn it around.  

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    At the expense of the rest of the players, and the fans who pay to see good baseball? I don't think so.

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    [object HTMLDivElement].   Well , we are not seeing very good baseball anyway. It is a lost season. Why not give Bradley more time? What is there to lose?  Is there a better alternative at this point? 

     
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    Let him play. This team is so putrid that I would rather see a young guy suck and have hope for improvement than watch a veteran tread water.

     
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    A good hitting coach needs to work with him.  He has the talent and skills to hit.  He will end up with a 0.250 career average, enough to keep him as a key contributor in the team with his gloves more than making up.

     
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    0-for-34 and counting.

     
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    you pretty much have to let him play and see if he can turn things around as this season is a write-off. The thing I have been wondering lately is, how much blame falls on the sox hitting coach for the teams offensive struggles? I mean I think there has to be a significant amount of accountability on him for the fact that so many guys are struggling. In fairness, its not like he can magically turn guys around, but should he not be telling bradley to get the leg kick out of his swing? Should he not be telling middlebrooks to drive the ball when he gets his pitch? Should he not be telling napoli to stop taking pitches with 2 strikes for strike 3 looking? I get the whole work the count strategy, but when your taking pitches that you should be swinging at and hopefully hitting hard, then I think it starts to get excessive. I have never seen a team that takes so many strikes when they are up in the count 2-0, 2-1 or 3-1. 

     
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    I remember when everyone was talking about his new open stance and how great it was... What happen?

     
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    I remember when everyone was talking about his new open stance and how great it was... What happen?

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    0-for-4, 4 Ks...let him play!!! oy vay

     
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    0-for-4, 4 Ks...let him play!!! oy vay

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    [object HTMLDivElement]   The infamous golden sombrero. No doubt that he is absolutely lost at the moment. The question is :  Is he really this bad ?  I have to think that he is not this bad. I think you have to stay with him a while longer. How much longer ?  I don't know. Certainly the rest of this season. What is there to lose ?  Maybe there is something to gain. Why not give it a shot?

     
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    He's putting too much pressure on himself . he's probably up there saying oh no not 2 strikes again. It's got to be tearing him up inside. He is a better hitter...he proved it during the short time he was hitting. He's got to get his confidence back and he needs to work with a GOOD hitting coach. We are seeing some good ball when he plays by the way. Those acrobatic catches don't happen every game you know. Well, except when JBJ is playing...

     
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    He's putting too much pressure on himself . he's probably up there saying oh no not 2 strikes again. It's got to be tearing him up inside. He is a better hitter...he proved it during the short time he was hitting. He's got to get his confidence back and he needs to work with a GOOD hitting coach. We are seeing some good ball when he plays by the way. Those acrobatic catches don't happen every game you know. Well, except when JBJ is playing...

    [/QUOTE]    The thing is, those catches do happen every day. As good as Jackie is, there are a lot of other excellent defensive players out there. The circus catch, web gems are pretty commonplace. Even if Jackie is the best, he is not that much better than the others to justify not hitting . He has got to improve at the plate. That has to happen if he is going to stay around.  And I do think that it will. But it is up to him to do it.


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    Ultimately, he needs to get back to what he was doing while he was in the minors. I think he has tinkered too much to the point where he is just lost. When he opened up his stance a bit it seemed to help, but then went through a rough patch and started to tinker and added in the toe tap/leg kick. Ever since then, he has just been way off and has lost his confidence at the plate. I would say what needs to happen is the hitting coach should sit him down and go over video of him hitting during the time when he was hitting well earlier in the season and also in the minors. Really focus on the things that made him successful and work on getting back to doing those things. From what I can see, it would do him some good to shorten up his swing (think ellsbury) and just focus on making good contact. Stress to him that he doesn’t need to swing for the fences every time, just get hits. Also, pitchers have really been pitching him away a lot lately, bring that to his attention (if he hasn’t already noticed) and give him some strategies to become a better opposite field hitter and continually work on that. I think that its worth really putting time into getting him back on the tracks because defensively he’s is insanely good. It just seems like they are letting him go up there and make the same mistakes over and over again and continue to fail. I get that they are hoping he makes the adjustments himself and figures things out, but maybe the kid just needs some help. 

     
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    Ultimately, he needs to get back to what he was doing while he was in the minors. I think he has tinkered too much to the point where he is just lost. When he opened up his stance a bit it seemed to help, but then went through a rough patch and started to tinker and added in the toe tap/leg kick. Ever since then, he has just been way off and has lost his confidence at the plate. I would say what needs to happen is the hitting coach should sit him down and go over video of him hitting during the time when he was hitting well earlier in the season and also in the minors. Really focus on the things that made him successful and work on getting back to doing those things. From what I can see, it would do him some good to shorten up his swing (think ellsbury) and just focus on making good contact. Stress to him that he doesn’t need to swing for the fences every time, just get hits. Also, pitchers have really been pitching him away a lot lately, bring that to his attention (if he hasn’t already noticed) and give him some strategies to become a better opposite field hitter and continually work on that. I think that its worth really putting time into getting him back on the tracks because defensively he’s is insanely good. It just seems like they are letting him go up there and make the same mistakes over and over again and continue to fail. I get that they are hoping he makes the adjustments himself and figures things out, but maybe the kid just needs some help. 

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    [object HTMLDivElement]   I agree. The ability is there. He just has to put it all together. But he has to do it before too long. In addition to the coaches, I would hope that some of the veteran players would help him. I think he would listen to them. No doubt there is a mental aspect to hitting. It is not all just physical. Confidence breeds success and success breeds more confidence. That applies to most things, hitting a baseball included.

     
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    Because the whole season and some of last season wasn't enough??




    I agree; let him finish the season. I think he has the potential for 5 strikeouts in a game. Btw, that's sometimes referred to as the OLYMPIC RINGS.

     
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    Re: Ugly but the Sox need to let Bradley finish the year as the everyday centerfielder

    the answer is to have him hit against worse pitching. ie. to send him down. fast. immediately. should have already happened. AA if that's what it takes. he needs to get back to having some comfort and confidence at the plate. right now he is simply digging a bigger and bigger hole.

     
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    How else can they evaluate before seasons end?

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    Evaluate ? ha ha ha ha.......Evaluate his hitting over a year already. Needs at least two more years at Pawtucket or he should be moved . Sticking with JBJ was one of the problems this year.Maybe a trade to HOUSTON or a team like that would take pressure of JBJ  just go play and see what happens

     

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