1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?

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    1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?

    http://espn.go.com/boston/conversations/_/id/8282296/report-kelly-shoppach-text-message-boston-red-sox-brass

    KELLY SHOPPACH is the guy who caused the most chaos. thats on management and BC. this guy has done this his entire career everywhere he's been. he becomes toxic. one of those guys who thinks he's better than he is and is perceived. thought he was entitled to be playing everyday or at least in a platoon. as v went more and more towards salty, he led the revolt and i'm sure is the one calling reporters and spilling the beans in terms of what was discussed. there's  no way a jambroni of this ilk should ever felt that empowered even with the other players in that clubhouse. says a lot.

    anyone who watched that lester video from april and the seeds being thrown at the first base coach (ochoa) can see that shop was the major instigator in that incident and could be of this level of insubordination (no respect for the coaches). the first i heard of the mets trade made it clear this was management firing back and siding with bv. sends a clear message that he could be back.. he should be! just neeed to empower the man a bit. wouldnt surprise me that shop's "demotion" was also from a previous incident. this guy constantly agitates and instigates, wears on his teammates esp on authority wherever he goes.
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

    In Response to Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?:
    [QUOTE]The throwing of the seeds at first base was an inside joke between Lester and the firstbase coach. Why is Shoppach's behavior " on management"?  Please elaborate? The BDC moderator has a Gold Star waiting for you for predicting who the snitch was. Ceremony is tomorrow A.M. at 11 . Dress appropriately.
    Posted by Clamshack1[/QUOTE]on management, because it was an opeen secret that he's an AZZH--- and a clubhouse cancer. those are things to investigate like carl craw's injury situation from his tampa days (they knew the tommy john and wrist thing were coming) before signing a guy esp with a team that just had chemistry and leadership issue. shop constantly badmouthed, backstabbed and snitched about bv. it wasnt just one incident, thats why he's gone.. nothing new for shop, did it before in cleveland and even in tampa (when his playing time got cut, same pattern)... nothing new!
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

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    [QUOTE]Can you document Shoppach's previous history that you are alluding to?  Gve us a link or  source.. Thanks.
    Posted by Clamshack1[/QUOTE]is there a link about craw needing tommy john or lackey for that matter? some things are just known o the down low. as they were talking about signing them, reporters openly talked about tommy john about both guys being reasons hey werent signed, no bidding wars, y the yanks and tampa werent interested and so forth. the guys who cover baseball have always said that about shop off-the -cuff and off the record.. kinda like bobby v. was there a documented link? no.. but noone who covered him in ny is exactly shocked about his nerdy foot in mouth issues and how he rubbed some people in the clubhouse.. just bobby being bobby.. just shop being shop! take that for what its worth... he'll soon being moving on from ny regardless of what he hits.. he easily wears out his welcome despite his catching talents and good bat as of late.
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

    The report was printed by a NY paper. They wont release their source, most likely made up, so take it as a load of BS. When are you going to get it through your thick skull that this is what the media does, make sh*t up, it gets shot down, then they make more sh*t up, & so on. It's seems like a requirement to be hired as a "reporter" is to be a pathological liar or they wont hire you. This is the way it's going to be until it's a requirement that their sources be named if they print a story, & not hidden in cowardice.
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

    It does not matter who called the owners asking for a meeting.

    For many and various reasons, the fact is that Valentine has not done the job as the manager of the Red Sox.

    The manager has a lot to do with what a team does over the course of the season, and Valentine has been just about terrible all season in dealing with his players.
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

    In Response to Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?:
    [QUOTE]what a convenient way to end all the snitch talk....by heaping the blame on Shoppach now that he's out of town.....it's a load of crap.  It's like in political/govermental scandals......blaming the wrongdoing on a guy whose since dead.  Looks like the gullible are buying it hook, line and .....................................................sinker. _________________________________ Curt Schilling Deadbeat Fraud Clown
    Posted by bellhorn_[/QUOTE]
    The obvious difference being that Shoppach isn't dead.
     
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    Shoppach is the quintessential ham and egger. Lavarnway should have been given the job long ago.  Same thing with Iglesias. Sox have floundered all year with these mediocrities. That is why we are where we are.
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

    Yes, catcher and SS is why we are where we are...Nothing to do with our supposed 1 & 2 pitchers winning all of 12 games this year...
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

    Commie, can't recall that prediction, I try to read most of your stuff, can you post a link? If so, I'm impressed. 

    Having said that Agon if the reports are true has a lot of accountability as well, letting Shoppach use his phone speaks volumes...
     
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    [QUOTE]Yes, catcher and SS is why we are where we are...Nothing to do with our supposed 1 & 2 pitchers winning all of 12 games this year...
    Posted by southpaw777[/QUOTE]
    Yeah , and that too.  The one thing does not excuse the other.
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

    WEEI reports that Kelly Shoppach says he did not author the texts:

    http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21221741/shoppach-denies-authoring-texts-owners

     
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    Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?

    like how bc said it was "performance-based" when everyone knew as contrarian had said on a few occasions.. that bob was the shop of coaches. always backstabbing and selling bv out. not his guy, as the ship sinks no one to rallyu around bv. finally, bv has some guys in th eplayers and coaches who he can more comfortable with. this is a major message. unfortunately, if this team doesnt get on a major streak, they could use it to justify booting bv as well... i just think the man had no shot from day one. but i really do think that bc and the trio like him and thus he is likely to be back with any signs of life from the team. now with mac and shop gone, there should be more clubhouse stability.
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

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    [QUOTE]Yes, catcher and SS is why we are where we are...Nothing to do with our supposed 1 & 2 pitchers winning all of 12 games this year...
    Posted by southpaw777[/QUOTE]

    Relative to his position and his pay check, Shoppach has been the best player on the team this year.
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

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    [QUOTE]Shoppach is the quintessential ham and egger. Lavarnway should have been given the job long ago.  Same thing with Iglesias. Sox have floundered all year with these mediocrities. That is why we are where we are.
    Posted by dgalehouse[/QUOTE]

    Newsflash.  Iggy and Lava aren't good either.

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back? : Relative to his position and his pay check, Shoppach has been the best player on the team this year.
    Posted by Joebreidey[/QUOTE]great on field, bad in clubhouse... that was more overrriding for this team. that should have been given more weight. backroom is more important
     
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    Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?

    In response to "Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?": [QUOTE]Put the wine jug down troll and go to bed. Posted by Calzone65[/QUOTE] Broken Record
     
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    Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back?

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: as CONTRARIAN predicted, SHOPPACH was the SNITCH.. shipping him out could mean BV will be back? : great on field, bad in clubhouse... that was more overrriding for this team. that should have been given more weight. backroom is more important
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]

    Yup, can't have anyone telling the truth.  Bad for attendance.  Everyone together-'All hail Larry'.
     
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    Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?

    In response to "Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?": [QUOTE]Go  discuss Phish on the Music forum. You are considered a troll here by everyone, even the Yankee posters agree on that. Posted by Calzone65[/QUOTE] You are the most hated poster on this forum, noone wants you here.
     
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    Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?

    In response to "Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?": [QUOTE]NOONE is not a word. Posted by Calzone65[/QUOTE] I know that I could have written nobody but chose not to, still you're the most hated poster here, the only posters who want you here are your own aliases.
     
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    Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?

    In response to "Re: 1ST SHOPPACH then MCCLURE, could all this mean BV will be back?": [QUOTE]You sound very much like Burrito / Enchilada. Posted by Calzone65[/QUOTE] You sound like kimsaysthis and every other miserable alias you have.
     

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