2011 Youk Stats
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2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 10:07 AM EDT
While Crawford struggles, has anyone noticed Youk hasn't had an OPS this low since 07, or lower OBP since 08. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 10:10 AM EDT
I was going to post something about his struggles. He's hitting just .205 over his last 18 games, and he seems to be beating the ball into the ground a lot.
This definitely out of character for him to not be hitting around .300. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 10:20 AM EDT
Yeah people are looking at his RBI's though and saying, he's still productive, second in RBIs on the team, but when it comes down to it, he is havnig an off year compared to the past few season. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 10:23 AM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:Yeah people are looking at his RBI's though and saying, he's still productive, second in RBIs on the team, but when it comes down to it, he is havnig an off year compared to the past few season.
Posted by thewagsHe is indeed having an off year ... but, HE IS STILL PRODUCTIVE
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Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 10:30 AM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : He is indeed having an off year ... but, HE IS STILL PRODUCTIVE
Posted by SpacemanEephus
I wonder if playing 3B has taken more out of him. Either way he is still more productive then most 3B. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 10:46 AM EDT
In Response to 2011 Youk Stats:While Crawford struggles, has anyone noticed Youk hasn't had an OPS this low since 07, or lower OBP since 08.
Posted by craze4sox
It just seems to me that he is battling a lot of small injuries, dinks and bruises, that have kept him from going out there each day feeling healthy. Whether it's the number of balls fouled off at the plate that catch his ankle, or the muscle pulls from diving for balls at 3B, he just appears to be beat up.
Granted, it's a long season and most players get nicked up at some point, but being the warrior that he is, he just doesn't want to sit. As I indicated before the All-Star break, I think Youk needs some time off to get 100% healthy for the stretch run. Just my opinion, only time will tell. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 11:03 AM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : I wonder if playing 3B has taken more out of him. Either way he is still more productive then most 3B.
Posted by craze4soxYeah Craze. Of course it is just conjecture, but I think playing third has taken much more of a physical toll on Youk, as it would anyone. Also, I think he has probably had to spend much more mental focus on defense, re-adjusting to the hot corner. Perhaps next year it will be easier in that regard, having settled in to the position. In any case, it makes you appreciate an Adrian Beltre for being able to be a total whiz at perhaps the hardest defensive position and be such a monster with the bat. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 11:06 AM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : I wonder if playing 3B has taken more out of him. Either way he is still more productive then most 3B.Posted by craze4sox
I think they need to move him to DH in the future.
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Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 11:09 AM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : I wonder if playing 3B has taken more out of him. Either way he is still more productive then most 3B.
Posted by craze4sox
Youk is currently 1st in OPS among all ML third baseman with minimum of 400 PA. So while his overall numbers comapred to his norm appear to be down. Moving accross the diamond as expected has hurt him offensively...yet dispite that he's still grinding away and playing his tail off...RK PLAYER AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG OPS 1 Youkilis 367 61 100 16 76 .272 .385 .493 .879 2 Ramirez 404 52 115 20 68 .285 .327 .498 .825 3 ABeltre 388 61 107 20 76 .276 .318 .505 .823 4 Reynolds 361 55 79 24 60 .219 .330 .474 .804 5 Headley 357 39 104 3 37 .291 .380 .401 .780 6 Bonifacio 351 56 103 2 18 .293 .365 .385 .750 7 Valencia 405 42 99 12 57 .244 .291 .388 .679 8 McGehee 392 34 94 8 48 .240 .289 .349 .639
If you expand it to 300 PA...he's still #1...RK PLAYER AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG OPS 1 Youkilis 367 61 100 16 76 .272 .385 .493 .879 2 Rodriguez 305 53 90 13 52 .295 .366 .485 .852 3 Ramirez 404 52 115 20 68 .285 .327 .498 .825 4 Beltre 388 61 107 20 76 .276 .318 .505 .823 5 Reynolds 361 55 79 24 60 .219 .330 .474 .804 6 Roberts 324 59 84 15 45 .259 .351 .451 .802 7 Wigginton 296 40 77 13 42 .26 .325 .459 .785 8 Headley 357 39 104 3 37 .291 .380 .401 .780 9 Longoria 294 41 66 15 56 .224 .333 .439 .772 10 Jones 298 36 77 9 47 .258 .338 .433 .771 -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 11:14 AM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : I think they need to move him to DH in the future.
Posted by (TheBabe)
Nah, I'd just hook him up with Arod's trainers... -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 11:17 AM EDT
Youk is not having one of his best years. Couple of things that I have noticed. Trying to pull the outside pitch is resulting in ground balls to the left side. Needs to hit the ball where it is pitched. Go the other way more often. Also, pitch recognition has been a problem. Gets fooled with the breaking ball. Takes too many called third strikes. Despite this, he has still been productive with the rbis. Among the leaders. Have to say though, that hitting behind Ells, Pedey and Adrian , he is getting many rbi opportunities. -
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Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 11:51 AM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : Nah, I'd just hook him up with Arod's trainers...Posted by Beantowne
You mean Arod the future DH of the NY Yankees?
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Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 12:24 PM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:Youk is not having one of his best years. Couple of things that I have noticed. Trying to pull the outside pitch is resulting in ground balls to the left side. Needs to hit the ball where it is pitched. Go the other way more often. Also, pitch recognition has been a problem. Gets fooled with the breaking ball. Takes too many called third strikes. Despite this, he has still been productive with the rbis. Among the leaders. Have to say though, that hitting behind Ells, Pedey and Adrian , he is getting many rbi opportunities.
Posted by dgalehouse
Not to disagree but Youk's having a pretty good season...his overall numbers have dipped, but he's also in a bit of a slump right now. If he finishes the season strong, he'll end up close to his career norms 25 hrs-100 Rbi's batting .290ish with a .400 OBP and around .500 slugging...Which should get him close to his usual plus .900 OPS. He's not that far off now @. 879.
I'd say there's no better time to bust out of his current funk than tonight! -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 2:52 PM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : Yeah Craze. Of course it is just conjecture, but I think playing third has taken much more of a physical toll on Youk, as it would anyone. Also, I think he has probably had to spend much more mental focus on defense, re-adjusting to the hot corner. Perhaps next year it will be easier in that regard, having settled in to the position. In any case, it makes you appreciate an Adrian Beltre for being able to be a total whiz at perhaps the hardest defensive position and be such a monster with the bat.
Posted by SpacemanEephus
I definately agree Spaceman, his recent divorce may or may not be playing some role in his mindset this season as well. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 2:58 PM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : Youk is currently 1st in OPS among all ML third baseman with minimum of 400 PA. So while his overall numbers comapred to his norm appear to be down. Moving accross the diamond as expected has hurt him offensively...yet dispite that he's still grinding away and playing his tail off... RK PLAYER AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG OPS 1 Youkilis 367 61 100 16 76 .272 .385 .493 .879 2 Ramirez 404 52 115 20 68 .285 .327 .498 .825 3 ABeltre 388 61 107 20 76 .276 .318 .505 .823 4 Reynolds 361 55 79 24 60 .219 .330 .474 .804 5 Headley 357 39 104 3 37 .291 .380 .401 .780 6 Bonifacio 351 56 103 2 18 .293 .365 .385 .750 7 Valencia 405 42 99 12 57 .244 .291 .388 .679 8 McGehee 392 34 94 8 48 .240 .289 .349 .639 If you expand it to 300 PA...he's still #1... RK PLAYER AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG OPS 1 Youkilis 367 61 100 16 76 .272 .385 .493 .879 2 Rodriguez 305 53 90 13 52 .295 .366 .485 .852 3 Ramirez 404 52 115 20 68 .285 .327 .498 .825 4 Beltre 388 61 107 20 76 .276 .318 .505 .823 5 Reynolds 361 55 79 24 60 .219 .330 .474 .804 6 Roberts 324 59 84 15 45 .259 .351 .451 .802 7 Wigginton 296 40 77 13 42 .26 .325 .459 .785 8 Headley 357 39 104 3 37 .291 .380 .401 .780 9 Longoria 294 41 66 15 56 .224 .333 .439 .772 10 Jones 298 36 77 9 47 .258 .338 .433 .771
Posted by Beantowne
Hey Bean, I wouldn't trade Youk for anyone including ARod. I was just suggesting his Stats haven't quite been what we have grown accustomed to. I think 3B, recent divorce and surgery have all probably had an impact and he still plays better than other 3B'n. It says a lot for the type of player Kevin is. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 3:37 PM EDT
I still like Youk and don't mean to dog him but I've seen the same thing you guys have mentioned.
Despite his high RBI total, an area where he's struggled this yr is with men on 3rd and less than 2 outs. He seems to get out of whack and chases bad pitches.
If you read guys who are into sabermetrics they will tell you that runs scored and RBI are meaningless as individual stats. I don't go quite that far but do agree to a point. He has 3 guys with great OB% ahead of him in Ellsbury, Pedroia, and A Gon. Any decent hitter should be able to put up big RBI numbers in that situation. -
Re: 2011 Youk Stats
posted at 8/5/2011 3:44 PM EDT
Another perspective though, for all you who can't help but point to how he has fallen off: If this is a down year ... man ... thats a serious ballplayer.