2011 Youk Stats

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    2011 Youk Stats

    While Crawford struggles, has anyone noticed Youk hasn't had an OPS this low since 07, or lower OBP since 08.   
     
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    I was going to post something about his struggles. He's hitting just .205 over his last 18 games, and he seems to be beating the ball into the ground a lot.
    This definitely out of character for him to not be hitting around .300.
     
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    Yeah people are looking at his RBI's though and saying, he's still productive, second in RBIs on the team, but when it comes down to it, he is havnig an off year compared to the past few season.
     
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    Yeah people are looking at his RBI's though and saying, he's still productive, second in RBIs on the team, but when it comes down to it, he is havnig an off year compared to the past few season.
    Posted by thewags


    He is indeed having an off year ... but, HE IS STILL PRODUCTIVE   Laughing
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : He is indeed having an off year ... but, HE IS STILL PRODUCTIVE   
    Posted by SpacemanEephus


    I wonder if playing 3B has taken more out of him.  Either way he is still more productive then most 3B.
     
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    While Crawford struggles, has anyone noticed Youk hasn't had an OPS this low since 07, or lower OBP since 08.   
    Posted by craze4sox


    It just seems to me that he is battling a lot of small injuries, dinks and bruises, that have kept him from going out there each day feeling healthy.  Whether it's the number of balls fouled off at the plate that catch his ankle, or the muscle pulls from diving for balls at 3B, he just appears to be beat up.

    Granted, it's a long season and most players get nicked up at some point, but being the warrior that he is, he just doesn't want to sit.  As I indicated before the All-Star break, I think Youk needs some time off to get 100% healthy for the stretch run.  Just my opinion, only time will tell. 
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : I wonder if playing 3B has taken more out of him.  Either way he is still more productive then most 3B.
    Posted by craze4sox


    Yeah Craze.  Of course it is just conjecture, but I think playing third has taken much more of a physical toll on Youk, as it would anyone.  Also, I think he has probably had to spend much more mental focus on defense, re-adjusting to the hot corner.  Perhaps next year it will be easier in that regard, having settled in to the position.  In any case, it makes you appreciate an Adrian Beltre for being able to be a total whiz at perhaps the hardest defensive position and be such a monster with the bat.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : I wonder if playing 3B has taken more out of him.  Either way he is still more productive then most 3B.

    Posted by craze4sox

    I think they need to move him to DH in the future.

     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : I wonder if playing 3B has taken more out of him.  Either way he is still more productive then most 3B.
    Posted by craze4sox


    Youk is currently 1st in OPS among all ML third baseman with minimum of 400 PA. So while his overall numbers comapred to his norm appear to be down. Moving accross the diamond as expected has hurt him offensively...yet dispite that he's still grinding away and playing his tail off...

    RKPLAYERAB R HHR RBI AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1Youkilis367 61 100 16 76.272.385.493.879
    2Ramirez404 52 115 20 68.285.327.498.825
    3ABeltre388 61 107 20 76.276.318.505.823
    4Reynolds361 55 79 24 60.219.330.474.804
    5Headley357 39 104 3 37.291.380.401.780
    6Bonifacio351  56 103  2 18.293.365.385.750
    7Valencia405 42 99 12 57.244.291.388.679
    8McGehee392 34 94 8 48.240.289.349.639

    If you expand it to 300 PA...he's still #1...

    RKPLAYERAB R HHR RBI AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1Youkilis367 61 100 16 76.272.385.493 .879
    2Rodriguez305 53 90 13 52.295.366.485 .852
    3Ramirez404 52 115 20 68.285.327.498 .825
    4Beltre388 61 107 20 76.276.318.505 .823
    5Reynolds361 55 79 24 60.219.330.474 .804
    6Roberts324 59 84 15 45.259.351.451 .802
    7Wigginton296 40 77 13 42.26.325.459 .785
    8Headley357 39 104 3 37.291.380.401 .780
    9Longoria294 41 66 15 56.224.333.439 .772
    10Jones298 36 77 9 47.258.338.433  .771
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : I think they need to move him to DH in the future.
    Posted by (TheBabe)


    Nah, I'd just hook him up with Arod's trainers...
     
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    Youk is not having one of his best years. Couple of things that I have noticed. Trying to pull the outside pitch is resulting in ground balls to the left side. Needs to hit the ball where it is pitched. Go the other way more often.  Also, pitch recognition has been a problem. Gets fooled with the breaking ball. Takes too many called third strikes.  Despite this, he has still been productive with the rbis. Among the leaders.  Have to say though, that hitting behind Ells, Pedey and Adrian , he is getting many rbi opportunities.
     
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    He has 15 HR and an .879 OPS. Ill take that. Also don't forget he is 32 years old. He isn't going to put up 08 numbers every year forever.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : Nah, I'd just hook him up with Arod's trainers...

    Posted by Beantowne

    You mean Arod the future DH of the NY Yankees?

     
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    Youk is not having one of his best years. Couple of things that I have noticed. Trying to pull the outside pitch is resulting in ground balls to the left side. Needs to hit the ball where it is pitched. Go the other way more often.  Also, pitch recognition has been a problem. Gets fooled with the breaking ball. Takes too many called third strikes.  Despite this, he has still been productive with the rbis. Among the leaders.  Have to say though, that hitting behind Ells, Pedey and Adrian , he is getting many rbi opportunities.
    Posted by dgalehouse


    Not to disagree but Youk's having a pretty good season...his overall numbers have dipped, but he's also in a bit of a slump right now. If he finishes the season strong, he'll end up close to his career norms 25 hrs-100 Rbi's batting .290ish with a .400 OBP and around .500 slugging...Which should get him close to his usual plus .900 OPS. He's not that far off now @. 879.

    I'd say there's no better time to bust out of his current funk than tonight!
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : Yeah Craze.  Of course it is just conjecture, but I think playing third has taken much more of a physical toll on Youk, as it would anyone.  Also, I think he has probably had to spend much more mental focus on defense, re-adjusting to the hot corner.  Perhaps next year it will be easier in that regard, having settled in to the position.  In any case, it makes you appreciate an Adrian Beltre for being able to be a total whiz at perhaps the hardest defensive position and be such a monster with the bat.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus


    I definately agree Spaceman, his recent divorce may or may not be playing some role in his mindset this season as well. 
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats:
    In Response to Re: 2011 Youk Stats : Youk is currently 1st in OPS among all ML third baseman with minimum of 400 PA. So while his overall numbers comapred to his norm appear to be down. Moving accross the diamond as expected has hurt him offensively...yet dispite that he's still grinding away and playing his tail off... RK PLAYER AB  R  H HR  RBI  AVG  OBP  SLG  OPS 1 Youkilis 367  61  100  16  76 .272 .385 .493 .879 2 Ramirez 404  52  115  20  68 .285 .327 .498 .825 3 ABeltre 388  61  107  20  76 .276 .318 .505 .823 4 Reynolds 361  55  79  24  60 .219 .330 .474 .804 5 Headley 357  39  104  3  37 .291 .380 .401 .780 6 Bonifacio 351  56  103  2  18 .293 .365 .385 .750 7 Valencia 405  42  99  12  57 .244 .291 .388 .679 8 McGehee 392  34  94  8  48 .240 .289 .349 .639 If you expand it to 300 PA...he's still #1... RK PLAYER AB  R  H HR  RBI  AVG  OBP  SLG  OPS 1 Youkilis 367  61  100  16  76 .272 .385 .493  .879 2 Rodriguez 305  53  90  13  52 .295 .366 .485  .852 3 Ramirez 404  52  115  20  68 .285 .327 .498  .825 4 Beltre 388  61  107  20  76 .276 .318 .505  .823 5 Reynolds 361  55  79  24  60 .219 .330 .474  .804 6 Roberts 324  59  84  15  45 .259 .351 .451  .802 7 Wigginton 296  40  77  13  42 .26 .325 .459  .785 8 Headley 357  39  104  3  37 .291 .380 .401  .780 9 Longoria 294  41  66  15  56 .224 .333 .439  .772 10 Jones 298  36  77  9  47 .258 .338 .433  .771
    Posted by Beantowne


    Hey Bean, I wouldn't trade Youk for anyone including ARod.  I was just suggesting his Stats haven't quite been what we have grown accustomed to.  I think 3B, recent divorce and surgery have all probably had an impact and he still plays better than other 3B'n.  It says a lot for the type of player Kevin is.
     
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    I still like Youk and don't mean to dog him but I've seen the same thing you guys have mentioned.

    Despite his high RBI
    total, an area where he's struggled this yr is with men on 3rd and less than 2 outs.  He seems to get out of whack and chases bad pitches.

    If you read guys who are into sabermetrics they will tell you that runs scored and RBI are meaningless as individual stats.  I don't go quite that far but do agree to a point.  He has 3 guys with great OB%
    ahead of him in Ellsbury, Pedroia, and A Gon.  Any decent hitter should be able to put up big RBI numbers in that situation.


     
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    Another perspective though, for all you who can't help but point to how he has fallen off:  If this is a down year ... man ... thats a serious ballplayer.
     
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