2013 chicken and beer .......

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    Re: 2013 chicken and beer .......

    In response to rsinsider's comment:

    If this years team was to eat chicken and drink beer .... Would anybody give a damn ? 



    Come on, do we want to keep seeing Red Sox failing to make into the playoff for another year?  If that what they want to do, then I am going to pick a new team!!

    Seriously, one year is enuff for all of us.  It happened, and now it is all taken care of by Ben C.

     

     
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    Re: 2013 chicken and beer .......

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    Well, David Ortiz used the "F" word back in April and he not only got away without being reprimanded , he got good mileage out of it and it became a popular moment.

    Pretty sad how eatimg something as innocent as chicken and drinking America's most popular beverage = bad , while using filthy language = good.

    It's all about results as was stated previously.

    You win , everthing is excusable....lose and someone will find the scapegoat and make an example of him, her , it or them. In the 2011 case Terry Francona was the scapegoat. This season's team with John Farrel is not being managed much differently than a Francona-led team. After all, Francona was Farrell's mentor...wasn't he?

    "Advertising is legalized lying."- H.G.Wells

     



    Context is everything Zill.  

     

    The chicken and beer were convenient symbols of a team gone awry.  They came to represent a perceived lack of caring and focus as the club folded up at crunch time.  Was chciken and beer the problem?  Of course not.  But it was a symbol of a problem that, to this day, only people on the inside fully undestand.

    Conversely, Ortiz gets a pass for his vulgarity because it was let loose in a passionate moment where he was genuinely trying to galvanize the community after the horrible events of Marathon day.  Was his utterance acceptable or appropriate?  No, of course not.  The kids dont need to hear that from their icons.  But, his faux pas came out in a nice moment in deep connection between David and the coomunity at large.

     




    YES, agreed on all points.

    "Manny being Manny" was funny when the team was winning but became old and not so funny when the team started tanking in 2008 thru the end of Manny's Red Sox tenure.

    No one who understands baseball can disregard the huge presence of Manny Ramirez in the Sox lineup , but the media was quick to jump on him and make him a scapegoat, fool and criminal when the team was on the way down....and alot of the fans and posters here, bought the media's bull, hook, line and sinker!

     
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    Re: 2013 chicken and beer .......

    In response to ZILLAGOD's comment:

    In response to SpacemanEephus's comment:

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    In response to ZILLAGOD's comment:

     

    Well, David Ortiz used the "F" word back in April and he not only got away without being reprimanded , he got good mileage out of it and it became a popular moment.

    Pretty sad how eatimg something as innocent as chicken and drinking America's most popular beverage = bad , while using filthy language = good.

    It's all about results as was stated previously.

    You win , everthing is excusable....lose and someone will find the scapegoat and make an example of him, her , it or them. In the 2011 case Terry Francona was the scapegoat. This season's team with John Farrel is not being managed much differently than a Francona-led team. After all, Francona was Farrell's mentor...wasn't he?

    "Advertising is legalized lying."- H.G.Wells

     



    Context is everything Zill.  

     

    The chicken and beer were convenient symbols of a team gone awry.  They came to represent a perceived lack of caring and focus as the club folded up at crunch time.  Was chciken and beer the problem?  Of course not.  But it was a symbol of a problem that, to this day, only people on the inside fully undestand.

    Conversely, Ortiz gets a pass for his vulgarity because it was let loose in a passionate moment where he was genuinely trying to galvanize the community after the horrible events of Marathon day.  Was his utterance acceptable or appropriate?  No, of course not.  The kids dont need to hear that from their icons.  But, his faux pas came out in a nice moment in deep connection between David and the coomunity at large.

     

     




    YES, agreed on all points.

     

    "Manny being Manny" was funny when the team was winning but became old and not so funny when the team started tanking in 2008 thru the end of Manny's Red Sox tenure.

    No one who understands baseball can disregard the huge presence of Manny Ramirez in the Sox lineup , but the media was quick to jump on him and make him a scapegoat, fool and criminal when the team was on the way down....and alot of the fans and posters here, bought the media's bull, hook, line and sinker!

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    No doubt Zill.  

     

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