Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/12/2013 11:42 PM EST
In response to hill55's comment:
In response to Joebreidey's comment:
FWIW, it's interesting to note that the trolls that come into this site every day to pour their hatred on the RS, never come into threads like this.
I assume you're not referring to the Seattle Mariner fan who started this thread. ;-)
Hill, you are a valued and sustaining resource of top quality posts! No Prob!
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/12/2013 11:48 PM EST
I have no problem with JBJ in LF if they chose to keep Ellsbury. That would be one heck of a solid defensive OF and it does maybe enable the team to slide Ellsbury to the #3 slot and JBJ to lead off which is probably his best slot long term. JBJ may be the guy who advances the quickest next year. He is much more advanced defensively than guys like Bogaerts and Brentz. And is a potential game changer in terms of his impact on the team if he pans out as well as projected. A top lead off guy who can play defense also is a valueable commodity. It could be that he just got tired late last year. It must have been an adjustment for him to play so many games in one year for the first time in his life. This guy put up great numbers in defense and offense and I love the idea of being able to slot Ellsbury in the 3 slot if he can replicate his 2011 numbers.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/12/2013 11:53 PM EST

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Since Beltre is no longer here, maybe it's safe to move Ells back to LF...
:)
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 12:17 AM EST

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although Seattle tallied the most "Prospect Points
Hill, propaganda would be putting it mildly for your chosen "ratings". The Mariners stink, from top to bottom. How long has it been since they have been relevant to anyone but you and a few other delusional spinster.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 12:38 AM EST

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In response to softlaw2's comment:
although Seattle tallied the most "Prospect Points
Hill, propaganda would be putting it mildly for your chosen "ratings". The Mariners stink, from top to bottom. How long has it been since they have been relevant to anyone but you and a few other delusional spinster.
I know! I know this one!
About as long as it's been since you had a relevent post?
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 3:41 AM EST

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In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to softlaw2's comment:
although Seattle tallied the most "Prospect Points
Hill, propaganda would be putting it mildly for your chosen "ratings". The Mariners stink, from top to bottom. How long has it been since they have been relevant to anyone but you and a few other delusional spinster.
I know! I know this one!
About as long as it's been since you had a relevent post?
+1
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 3:42 AM EST

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In response to moonslav59's comment:
Since Beltre is no longer here, maybe it's safe to move Ells back to LF...
:)
Actually, if somehow Ells resigns I would put him in LF too and tell him to swing for the fences, and slot him in the 3rd spot...JBJ can leadoff.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 8:59 AM EST
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 9:02 AM EST

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In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
I really think our lower minor league prospects are very promising. I'm counting on a few to rise up high this summer and put us near the top in team prospect ratings next spring.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 9:05 AM EST

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In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
I'm hearing rumblings that Bogaerts will either DH or play 3B in the WBC. Probably just a WBC thing but interestilessons the less
That's because Team Netherlands has Jurrickson Profar and Andrelton Simmons in addition to the X-Man.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 10:00 AM EST
In response to carnie's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
I'm hearing rumblings that Bogaerts will either DH or play 3B in the WBC. Probably just a WBC thing but interestilessons the less
That's because Team Netherlands has Jurrickson Profar and Andrelton Simmons in addition to the X-Man.
That makes sense. I knew it was up in the air if profar would play. I know the Sox don't want him to play the outfield but are ok with him at third. It just goes to show that while confidence is building in his defense at ss the sox are ok with him handling third.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 10:05 AM EST
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
I really think our lower minor league prospects are very promising. I'm counting on a few to rise up high this summer and put us near the top in team prospect ratings next spring.
Me too. Another blue chip prospect coming into the fold is at the top of my wish list. There is a higher probability of that happening with the depth of talent that is across all levels.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 10:39 AM EST

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In response to softlaw2's comment:
Hill, propaganda would be putting it mildly for your chosen "ratings". The Mariners stink, from top to bottom. How long has it been since they have been relevant to anyone but you and a few other delusional spinster.
May our favorite teams bring us great joy in 2013. ;-)
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/32910/mariners-will-be-this-years-surprise-team
http://www.billjamesonline.com/which_team_will_surprise_in_2013_/
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/13/2013 11:14 PM EST

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In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
I really think our lower minor league prospects are very promising. I'm counting on a few to rise up high this summer and put us near the top in team prospect ratings next spring.
Me too. Another blue chip prospect coming into the fold is at the top of my wish list. There is a higher probability of that happening with the depth of talent that is across all levels.
We may even have 2-3 more players rise into the top 100 list by next spring. We may not lose any of our current ones, since none rate to "graduate" from prospect status, except maybe Iggy if there is an injury.
8-9 in the top 100 next year would be sweet!
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/14/2013 7:57 AM EST

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In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
Kids like callahan, Buttrey, and Owens will hopefully be in daily discussions come 2015.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/14/2013 7:59 AM EST

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In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
I really think our lower minor league prospects are very promising. I'm counting on a few to rise up high this summer and put us near the top in team prospect ratings next spring.
Me too. Another blue chip prospect coming into the fold is at the top of my wish list. There is a higher probability of that happening with the depth of talent that is across all levels.
I think Kris Bryant should be our #7 pick if hes still available. Our 1b problems would be solved. Hes a great ballplayer and has a BIG bat!!!
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/14/2013 8:41 AM EST

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In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
Kids like callahan, Buttrey, and Owens will hopefully be in daily discussions come 2015.
There are more besides these guys who also have a chance to get into the discussion. I think we are deeper than many believe, but we are so conditioned to being dissappointed that we are hesitant to get too excited about our farm.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/14/2013 8:47 AM EST

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In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
Kids like callahan, Buttrey, and Owens will hopefully be in daily discussions come 2015.
There are more besides these guys who also have a chance to get into the discussion. I think we are deeper than many believe, but we are so conditioned to being dissappointed that we are hesitant to get too excited about our farm.
Frank Montas and Manuel Margot might be a couple of guys to keep your eye on. I haven't given up on Williams Jerez yet either.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/14/2013 9:04 AM EST

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In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
These two aren't in the top 100 but here are two more sox prospects who could start getting some attention this year.
http://news.soxprospects.com/2013/02/2013-prospect-previews-jamie-callahan.html
Kids like callahan, Buttrey, and Owens will hopefully be in daily discussions come 2015.
There are more besides these guys who also have a chance to get into the discussion. I think we are deeper than many believe, but we are so conditioned to being dissappointed that we are hesitant to get too excited about our farm.
Oh yeah, I know we have a lot more than that. I just listed a few.
Like always with me though, I never get too excited about any prospect until he can prove he can be successful at AA...But I like what Im seeing so far from our young lower level kids.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/14/2013 9:23 AM EST

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There are more besides these guys who also have a chance to get into the discussion. I think we are deeper than many believe, but we are so conditioned to being dissappointed that we are hesitant to get too excited about our farm.
Oh yeah, I know we have a lot more than that. I just listed a few.
Like always with me though, I never get too excited about any prospect until he can prove he can be successful at AA...But I like what Im seeing so far from our young lower level kids.
I understand, but it is nice to have so much "volume" below the AA level. It improves the odds that a few will rise into your graces.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/14/2013 11:29 AM EST
"volume" is the key word. Reality is some of these guys will amount to nothing, and some of them will become role players. It's very hard for a prospect to become an impact MLB player. But by the shear volume of talent, whether it be high ceiling guys or toolsy guys there should be much excitement about the prospect of building a team around our farm system.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/14/2013 12:35 PM EST

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In response to moonslav59's comment:
There are more besides these guys who also have a chance to get into the discussion. I think we are deeper than many believe, but we are so conditioned to being dissappointed that we are hesitant to get too excited about our farm.
Oh yeah, I know we have a lot more than that. I just listed a few.
Like always with me though, I never get too excited about any prospect until he can prove he can be successful at AA...But I like what Im seeing so far from our young lower level kids.
I understand, but it is nice to have so much "volume" below the AA level. It improves the odds that a few will rise into your graces.
Thats exactly what Im saying Moon. I like what I see in our lower levels and like the fact that there are so many "kids" that are showing improvement. I expect a couple of them to shine as well, but will resist a certain level of excitement until they can succeed at the higher levels.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/16/2013 12:29 PM EST

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Alex Speier has an excellent article up about Jackie Bradley Jr and the art of defense. While I was reading it I was almost salivating over how good a defense would be that had David Ross, Iglesias, Pedey and JBJ up the middle. :-)
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/16/2013 5:12 PM EST

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In response to carnie's comment:
Alex Speier has an excellent article up about Jackie Bradley Jr and the art of defense. While I was reading it I was alomst salivating over how good a defense would be that had David Ross, Iglesias, Pedey and JBJ up the middle. :-)
That would be a pretty solid middle carnie.
Re: 6 Sox prospects among Top100 ...
posted at 2/16/2013 6:44 PM EST

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That may be true...but I don't think there is an exact plan. Sure, Victorino may be able to slide over to center, but I'm skeptical that was a main reason they signed him rather than a secondary reason or an after thought. Regardless, if we lose Ellsbury after this season and JBJ and Brentz aren't ready we have ZERO outfielders. Now I'd guess one of those guys starts in 2013 but either way the outfield is thin.
I've always wondered if Bogaerts would move to LF, especially if Iglesias picks it up with the bat. But the odds of Xander staying at SS (even if Iggy starts to hit well) are growing. In the absence of another prospect emerging as a serious option as a starter (first team division starting potential) I can see the Sox making a run at a serious outfielder over the next year. Via the trade market e.g. Stanton, or possibly even consideration towards signing Ellsbury depending on his season.
Don't give up on Kalish yet - we haven't seen him healthy since 2010. With a little luck, we'll see him have 2-3 months at 100% this year. I wouldn't be surprised if he looks ready to fill the void in 2014. If not, we can address the OF in the off-season. I don't see Ellsbury as the answer - he just hasn't proven he can stay healthy and effective, and a terrific 2013 wouldn't do anything to change that fact.