Not counting today's romp...
We have 7 Sox players with an OPS over .900 the last 28 days!
We have 10 over .800!
Here they are...
OPS (PAs)
Papi 1.208 (101)
VTek 1.012 (45)
AGon .978 (110)
Salty .956 (54)
Craw .914 (100)
Ellsb .913 (115)
Scut .900 (20)
Redd .862 (15)
Pedey .813 (105)
Youk .801 (99)
Sutt .700 (31)
Drew .634 (57)
Lowr .605 (85)
Cam .505 (81)
7 Sox Players with...
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7 Sox Players with...
posted at 6/12/2011 6:46 PM EDT
- moonslav59
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posted at 6/12/2011 6:50 PM EDT
- harness
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Must be a mistake. Tek 2nd?
Drew/Cam near the bottom?
I fear this will incur the wrath of the ever-banned... -
Re: 7 Sox Players with...
posted at 6/12/2011 7:00 PM EDT
- tcal2-
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This team is unbeatable when firing on all cylinder's. Right now they look like the 07 Patriots, pure offensive dominance (pitching has been pretty good also).
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posted at 6/12/2011 8:20 PM EDT
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VTek's sample size is smaller over the same timeframe used here, but he's nearly even with Salty in PAs over the last 28 days. -
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posted at 6/12/2011 8:37 PM EDT
- harness
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In Response to Re: 7 Sox Players with...:VTek's sample size is smaller over the same timeframe used here, but he's nearly even with Salty in PAs over the last 28 days.
Posted by moonslav59
I'm confused. I thought Tek was the "back-up". -
Re: 7 Sox Players with...
posted at 6/12/2011 8:44 PM EDT
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Remember Saltalamacchia missed a couple of games with the flu. So instead of 60/40 they were 55/45. -
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posted at 6/12/2011 8:54 PM EDT
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So, 60/40 constitutes a FT catcher/back-up? -
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posted at 6/12/2011 9:00 PM EDT
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I don't care what they call it: it's working fine right now. -
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posted at 6/12/2011 9:31 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7 Sox Players with...:So, 60/40 constitutes a FT catcher/back-up?
Posted by harness
Give us your opinion instead of dancing around with stupid questions. -
Re: 7 Sox Players with...
posted at 6/13/2011 12:00 AM EDT
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harness, I would say 60/40 is starter, backup, especially at the cather position. Some teams will go with a 4/1 personal catcher split, and then have the backup play on day games following a night game. The Sox are fortunate enough to have a veteran catcher who can handle the staff, so he can be the personal catcher for 2 pitchers. I see nothing wrong with that.
Also, you did not say "full-time/back-up", you asked that Tek was the backup. Playing fewer games than the starter is the definition of a back-up, at least my definition. -
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posted at 6/13/2011 12:08 AM EDT
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I think it's all semantics. Players that platoon vs RHPs/LHPs are called "platoon players" not FT, and yet they may play about 70% of the time.
I'd say Salty is the starter and VTek is the back-up, but playing 60% to me, if not FT. -
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posted at 6/13/2011 1:00 AM EDT
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Back to the OP, this team is an offensive machine. If they all hit to their career norms, they could be nigh well unstoppable. -
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posted at 6/13/2011 1:16 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7 Sox Players with...:harness, I would say 60/40 is starter, backup, especially at the cather position. Some teams will go with a 4/1 personal catcher split, and then have the backup play on day games following a night game. The Sox are fortunate enough to have a veteran catcher who can handle the staff, so he can be the personal catcher for 2 pitchers. I see nothing wrong with that. Also, you did not say "full-time/back-up", you asked that Tek was the backup. Playing fewer games than the starter is the definition of a back-up, at least my definition.
Posted by fizsh
Yes I did, Fizsh. I said "So, 60/40 constitutes a FT catcher/back-up?".
If Tek plays 80 games to Salty's 82, is he a "back-up"?
After all, he played fewer games...
Tek has played in 31 games this year.
Salty in 42.
You are right when you say it's a matter of definition. By definition, a "back-up" spells the FT catcher. A FT catcher generally plays 110-135 games, by baseball standards.
Salty/Tek looks more like an uneven tandem to me.
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posted at 6/13/2011 1:20 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7 Sox Players with...:In Response to Re: 7 Sox Players with... : Give us your opinion instead of dancing around with stupid questions.
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Re: 7 Sox Players with...
posted at 6/13/2011 10:21 AM EDT
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Salty has caught just under 8% of th innings this year. It would probably hve been about 60% without the injury. -
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posted at 6/13/2011 10:25 AM EDT
- fizsh
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In your original post, harness, you said "I'm confused. I thought Tek was the "back-up". You did not say Salty was full-time. Full-time means the player plays almost all the games, to me. Very few catchers are full-time catchers. It is the demands of the job and the way teams protect them now.
But you know, it is not worth arguing about. I feel like have have intruded into some private joke that your original comment was intended to be. I apologize. -
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posted at 6/13/2011 10:25 AM EDT
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Updated after the 14-1 game:
Salty has passed AGon into 3rd place at 1.021.
Amazing how our 2 catchers are 2-3!
Scutaro has moved into 5th at .982 (smaller sample size).
Sutton ha moved closer to .800 (.772).
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Re: 7 Sox Players with...
posted at 6/13/2011 11:08 AM EDT
- moonslav59
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A look at our pitching the last 28 days:
Opponents have a .655 OPS agains us.
Here is a breakdown (warning: small sample sizes):
R.Hill .332 (13 PAs)
Hotto .333 (9)
Bowd .494 (17)
Whee .501 (29)
Bard .525 (40)
Beck .580 (131)
Buch .605 (131)
Atch .612 (31)
Acev .670 (105)
Wake .675 (104)
Lest .698 (139)
Alb .753 (37)
Lack .755 (49)
Papel .844 (48)
Jenks .866 (16)
Mora .971 (15)
ERA: team was 3.65
(0ver 10 IP-warning: small sample sizes)
Bard 2.38
Beck 2.58
Buch 3.09
Acev 3.80
Wake 4.32
Lest 4.55
Lack 5.40
Pap 6.97
WHIP: team was 1.203
(over 7 IP-small sampole size warning)
Bard 0.618
Atch 0.875
Wheel 0.913
Buch 1.031
Wake 1.080
Lack 1.114
Beck 1.200
Lest 1.326
Acev 1.394
Pap 1.548
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posted at 6/13/2011 11:18 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7 Sox Players with...:This team is unbeatable when firing on all cylinder's. Right now they look like the 07 Patriots, pure offensive dominance (pitching has been pretty good also).Posted by tcal2-
I remember '07 very well. 18 wins and 1 GIANT loss!!
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posted at 6/13/2011 1:07 PM EDT
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yeah, I remember 07 pretty well too. winning the 2nd world series in the same decade kinda took the sting outta losing the superbowl to the gints. -
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posted at 6/13/2011 1:32 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7 Sox Players with...:yeah, I remember 07 pretty well too. winning the 2nd world series in the same decade kinda took the sting outta losing the superbowl to the gints.Posted by Hammah29r2
Nonsense, you and I both know that GIANT loss was a heartbreaker for you.
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posted at 6/13/2011 1:42 PM EDT
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Nonsense, you and I both know that GIANT loss was a heartbreaker for you.
good point Baborino! however which was really the biggest heartbreaker of all heartbreakers? us losing to the gints, or what happened back in 04.
the defense rests!