A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III

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    In Softlaw's defense, I don't believe he ever quit on the team. And he has well over 20,000 cumulative posts.

    Pumpsie wuss, OTOH, is an habitual quitter.
    It's no wonder he has rarely shown his face around here over the last few years.
    Ask him about 2007...
     
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    1) Beckett - Out hurt.
    2) Lester- struggled today.
    3) Buch- out for most of the year.
    4) Dice-K- out for almost teh whole year.
    5) Lackey- "out of it" for most of the season.
    6) Bedard- Out hurt now.
    7) Wake- Healthy, but struggling.
    8) Miller- Healthy, but following his career norms.
    9) Weiland- forced into action before "his time".

    We basically are going with our number 2, 5, 7, 8, and 9 starters.
    Good pitching wins games. As the season heads into August and September, pitching makes an even bigger difference. Unless Beckett and/or Bedard come back soon, we are in trouble. I'm glad we opened up such a big lead on TB a few weeks ago. I still have complete faith we will win the WC slot.

    Bos        TB
    2 Tor     3@Bal
    4 TB      4@Bos
    4 Bal     4@NYY
    3 @NY   3 Tor
    3 @Bal  3 NYY

    Sox have 10 at Home/6 Away
    TB has 11 Away/6 Home (but have played better away so far this year)

    Summary:
    We have 4 vs each other.
    We have 7 vs Bal/ TB has 3 
    We have 3 vs NYY/ TB has 7
    We have 2 vs Tor/ TB has 3

    The variance is basically we have 4 more vs Bal, TB has 4 more vs NYY and 1 more vs Tor.

    I still like our odds, and once we get in the playoffs, IMO we will spring back to life.
     
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    [QUOTE]1) Beckett - Out hurt. 2) Lester- struggled today. 3) Buch - out for most of the year. 4) Dice-K - out for almost teh whole year. 5) Lackey- "out of it" for most of the season. 6) Bedard - Out hurt now. 7) Wake- Healthy, but struggling. 8) Miller- Healthy, but following his career norms. 9) Weiland- forced into action before "his time". We basically are going with our number 2, 5, 7, 8, and 9 starters. Good pitching wins games. As the season heads into August and September, pitching makes an even bigger difference. Unless Beckett and/or Bedard come back soon, we are in trouble. I'm glad we opened up such a big lead on TB a few weeks ago. I still have complete faith we will win the WC slot. Bos        TB 2 Tor     3@Bal 4 TB      4@Bos 4 Bal     4@NYY 3 @NY   3 Tor 3 @Bal  3 NYY Sox have 10 at Home/6 Away TB has 11 Away/6 Home (but have played better away so far this year) Summary: We have 4 vs each other. We have 7 vs Bal/ TB has 3  We have 3 vs NYY/ TB has 7 We have 2 vs Tor/ TB has 3 The variance is basically we have 4 more vs Bal, TB has 4 more vs NYY and 1 more vs Tor. I still like our odds, and once we get in the playoffs, IMO we will spring back to life.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    Nice post.
    The Rays can play tough teams tough.
    They are a dangerous underdog.

    But their schedule may be more difficult  than any other contender.
    They have played the easy part of their schedule, and still trail by 3 & 1/2.

    The unfortunate thing about all the pitching drawbacks is that the team has little to no window to use Miller in the pen as a lefty specialist. He likely won't be on the PO roster otherwise.

    When Theo acquired Bedard and Aviles at the trade deadline, I was hoping he'd address the BP depth, as I felt losing Hill was being masked.
    What we are seeing with the pen now is what I expected. Hill healthy would have been what OKI was in '07.

    Think where that team would have ended up that year without Oki...
     
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    [QUOTE]In Softlaw's defense, I don't believe he ever quit on the team. And he has well over 20,000 cumulative posts. Pumpsie wuss , OTOH, is an habitual quitter . It's no wonder he has rarely shown his face around here over the last few years. Ask him about 2007...
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    I guess I will take the high road here and simply say that we will have to agree to disagree about this.
    I still think you are a jerk for your abrasive communication skills. I realize that there are some idiots like you around and that there is no reasoning with them...just like a two year old.
     
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    Harness being abrasive against Pumpsie is refreshing.
    Harness being an apologist for troll Softlaw is bad.
    The whole forum is aware that Softlaw is a troll, devious contrarian.
    Are the Softlaw vs. Harness cat fights a charade, a staged event to promote traffic to the forum? I wouldn't be at all surprised.
     
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    [QUOTE]Harness being abrasive against Pumpsie is refreshing. Harness being an apologist for troll Softlaw is bad. The whole forum is aware that Softlaw is a troll, devious contrarian. Are the Softlaw vs. Harness cat fights a charade, a staged event to promote traffic to the forum? I wouldn't be at all surprised.
    Posted by BeaconHill19[/QUOTE]

    More drivel from the Post Police...
     
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    Just an honest opinion. Others can take it or leave it. My guess is that Breidy commands tons of respect here. Start a thread polling respect for Breidy vs. others if you wish to.
     
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    Posted by summerof67[/QUOTE]
    Good advice.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : I guess I will take the high road here and simply say that we will have to agree to disagree about this. I still think you are a jerk for your abrasive communication skills. I realize that there are some idiots like you around and that there is no reasoning with them...just like a two year old.
    Posted by pumpsie-green[/QUOTE]

    Note: This is how this worm takes the "high road".
    This moron dropped his pants in 2007 and, according to Joe Breidy, he said this year the team would be lucky to win 84 games.

    Now he posts "The baseball season ended today".
    You will join the land of the LAW once you are shown up yet again.

    Parasite.
     
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    [QUOTE]Harness being abrasive against Pumpsie is refreshing. Harness being an apologist for troll Softlaw is bad. The whole forum is aware that Softlaw is a troll, devious contrarian. Are the Softlaw vs. Harness cat fights a charade, a staged event to promote traffic to the forum? I wouldn't be at all surprised.
    Posted by BeaconHill19[/QUOTE]

    Yet another ludicrous PIKE identity.
    I'm not apologizing for Softlaw. But the fact is, he doesn't quit.
    He's not yellow.

    Why did the mods snag you recently? Or needn't I even ask.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : Nice post. The Rays can play tough teams tough. They are a dangerous underdog. But their schedule may be more difficult  than any other contender. They have played the easy part of their schedule, and still trail by 3 & 1/2. The unfortunate thing about all the pitching drawbacks is that the team has little to no window to use Miller in the pen as a lefty specialist. He likely won't be on the PO roster otherwise. When Theo acquired Bedard and Aviles at the trade deadline, I was hoping he'd address the BP depth, as I felt losing Hill was being masked. What we are seeing with the pen now is what I expected. Hill healthy would have been what OKI was in '07. Think where that team would have ended up that year without Oki...
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    I think their thought process was that by getting Bedard, someone else would go from the rotatio to the pen and strengthen it from within. The injuries have blown that idea up.

    We shouldn't have counted on Albers to be superman all year long.

     
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    Yeah, I believe UR right, Moon.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : Note: This is how this worm takes the " high road ". This moron dropped his pants in 2007 and, according to Joe Breidy , he said this year the team would be lucky to win 84 games. Now he posts "The baseball season ended today". You will join the land of the LAW once you are shown up yet again. Parasite.
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    Awe gee...I can't tell you how much being called names by a SAP like you hurts....you are a joke.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
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     Dice tanked. Buch went down

    Buch tanked, DiceK went down to surgery.
     
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    Luv the artificial laughter.
    The queen of doom who ran away when exposed years ago.


    How'd the '07 team fare?
    Has the current squad won 84 games yet?
    Is your plane ready for another fast exit?
     
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    I am worried about the pitching too, but I don't think TB can catch us.  The law of averages would say the hitters will come back and one of these guys will come up with a win.  I think we've got to hope the pitchers can get healthy and right themselves before the playoffs.  Moon, I don't want to sound silly about this but it seems we have a bunch of challenged pitchers who have trouble getting beyond five innings.  For this two week bridge would you be in favor of trying the "dual pitcher" thing?  Maybe try two guys going four apiece or three going three apiece?  I know there would be naysayers, but they do this in spring training, often with good results.  Furthermore, maybe with less innings pitched, they could do this more often, not waiting (5) days???  How about taking relievers who aren't doing well and have them start the first inning?  So maybe Albers 1, Wake 2-4, Miller 5-7, Bard 8, Pap 9.  Looks a little strange, but to my way of thinking could it go any worse than what we've seen lately.  Of course I know this will never occur.
     
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    Crit: The worst thing to do is to further compromise the existing BP.
    It would have to be guys like Atchison/Bowden/Weiland if you want to go in segments.

    The Sox have 10 at home now and hit .295 at Fenway (.262 on the road).
    As for pitchers going 5 frames, it has to do with pitch effectiveness.

    Areas like predicating pitch efficiency, velocity, repetition of mechanics, training discipline, etc. are as much the responsibility of the pitching coach as it is of the pitchers themselves.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : Any team making the playoffs have a chance, and Boston's is as good as most, for most are battling for a PO birth.
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    Nobody denies this, nobody wants the Sox to lose... but from afar you would have to give the nod to others.  The order of likelihood which team wins the WS in 2011:

    Philly
    Milwaukee
    Texas
    New York
    Boston
    Detroit
    Atlanta
    Arizona

    If it comes down to a slugging match I think Detroit lacks the punch, I am being bold with Milwaukee, and I want to throw up even putting New York ahead of Boston. However I think if the New Yorks starters turn it around they are technically better than the Sox starters at this point.  

    The Red Sox pitching is what it is, and with Youk struggling and AGon not mashing consistently enough our great offense is not gonan get it done.

    Still see even in Tampa Crawford can't get it going and continues to be burried in the line-up.

     
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    [QUOTE]Luv the artificial laughter. The queen of doom who ran away when exposed years ago. How'd the '07 team fare? Has the current squad won 84 games yet? Is your plane ready for another fast exit?
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    But you are a jerk!
    You are confusing me with  someone who takes you seriously; hence I laugh at you.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : But you are a jerk! You are confusing me with  someone who takes you seriously; hence I laugh at you.
    Posted by pumpsie-green[/QUOTE]

    Oh yeah. This doesn't bother you. Which is why you posted it at 2:01 AM.

    I'm not confusing you with anybody beyond the wuss who left here after you
    showed your were exposed in 2007.

    You do nothing but quit and denounce a very successful management.

    You don't have the guts to support a team to which you claim to be a fan.
    You show up, on 9/11 ironically, after a pivotal loss - to boast.
    You can't handle UR own yellow spine, so you come here to attract more of the same.
    Parasites feed off fear.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : Nobody denies this, nobody wants the Sox to lose... but from afar you would have to give the nod to others.  If I were to list in order of likelihood which team wins the WS in 2011: Philly Milwaukee Texas New York Boston Detroit Atlanta Arizona If it comes down to a slugging match I think Detroit lacks the punch, I am being bold with Milwaukee, and I want to throw up even putting New York ahead of Boston. However I think if the New Yorks starters turn it around they are technically better than the Sox starters at this point.   The Red Sox pitching is what it is, and with Youk struggling and AGon not mashing consistently enough our great offense is not gonan get it done. Still see even in Tampa Crawford can't get it going and continues to be burried in the line-up.
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]

    You said the RedSox have a small chance (of playing in WS).
    Depending on UR definition of small, each team entering the PO's
    has the same statistical chance of getting to the series. Whether they do or not depends on many factors.

    If the pitching gets healthy Boston's chances increase.
    Judging from personal, I'd say the Phillies have the best chance in the N.L.
    to reach the WS. Boston has a 25% chance right off the bat.
    If they play the Tigers (something you obviously can't grasp, as winning the division may forgo that opportunity), their chances are better because they match up well with the Tigers. Beating them favors Boston if they get access to Beckett/Lester/Bedard healthy and in good enough form.
    I noticed on UR list, you put Boson ahead of the Detroit. WHY?

    The team pulled Josh/Bedard out of the rotation to get them as physically ready as possible. Their return might now be hastened. This could affect their future availability. The team is walking a fine line in that regard.

    If Boston goes into the first round with pitching intact and they face the Tigers, they could be seen as a 50% choice to reach the WS. Hardly a small chance.
    Try looking beyond the present and weighing it out with a little faith.
     
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    Maybe try two guys going four apiece or three going three apiece?  

    I have brought up this isea a number of times, but now is not a good time. We don't have 6 guys who can go 4 IP, unless you count Aceves. I wouldn't want to use Aceves that way. Maybe next year...
     
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    Burrito, I think you rated Texas too high. They may not even make it to the P.O.'s
     
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    [QUOTE]Burrito, I think you rated Texas too high. They may not even make it to the P.O.'s
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    Texas has one less game lead than the RedSox have over Tampa.
    Odds favor them, and Boston matches up better against the Tigers.
     
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