A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III

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    [QUOTE]So, what if we don't "protect him"? Will someone grab him? Would it matter if they did?
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]
     I wonder if his contract is insured and the Sox are saving actual cash even though he counts toward salaries?
     
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    [QUOTE]So, what if we don't "protect him"? Will someone grab him? Would it matter if they did?
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    Darn I just read this again, they do in fact count to the 40 man roster starting in November. So yes it could make a difference.
     
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    They could just cut him if they do not think he can recover and pitch again for us in 2012.
     
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    [QUOTE]So, what if we don't "protect him"? Will someone grab him? Would it matter if they did?
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]Well the RS would end up paying his 2012 salary. And if they find themselves in need of pitcher and him pitching for somebody else while they are paying all but the MLB minimum that might just tend to drive them a little nuts.

    There are a few guys on the 40 man roster that won't be there come the off season. Right off the top at least one of the two LH relievers currently on the 25 man roster, Drew Sutton, Darnell McDonald and at some point it will be time to cut bait with Lars (the next Texeira) Anderson. Then of course Drew's spot will open as well. Lot's of ways to juggle around Dice K I think if he must be reactivated and then put back on the 60 day procedurally.

    But honestly if the RS could pick up a guy like Dice K for $25K and MLB minimum, park him temporarily of the 40 man, then put him on 60 day DL as possible second half 2012 insurance, don't you think they'd consider it strongly?
     
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    Good points katz.

    There could also be open 40 man slots from Scutaro, Vtek, and/or Wake.
     
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    The Sox will find a way to keep Dice on their 40 man as they have way too much invested to settle for the return they've reaped to date. Theo has shown a willingness in the past to wait on pitchers coming back from injury; why would we not do the same with someone we'd be paying anyway?
     
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    Depends on the timetable for his return (if ever), I guess.
     
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    [QUOTE]He may well become a 25-30 HR, 45-55 type double guy in the next couple years This is the first year since T-Ball that Bellsbury has reached double digit homers. He will never become a 25 to 30 HR dugy in the next couple of years. He'll be lucky if he reached 20 HR one time in his entire career.
    Posted by billbyboy[/QUOTE]

    Wanna get a record of this post...before it disappears.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : Hey Boomer, interesting thoughts on Lavarnay, but the supposed best catching prospect in baseball resides in the Yanks farm system. They say he is less than adequate defensively, same as Lavarnay. Right now Lavarnay if outperforming him offensively. So what does this tell us?
    Posted by promise4you[/QUOTE]

    I said last year on soxprospects that Lavarnway was older than Montero but he may end having a better career than Montero if we factor in that his numbers to date were very similar to Montero's plus Lavarnway may end up with better intangibles. Montero's age advantage was and still is a huge advantage. Very few people would still rate Lavarnway over Montero but I for one am giving Lavarnway the edge at this point. I have a feeling you feel the same way Promise.

    You are a true fan Promise. I love your enthusiasm and commitment! 
     
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    Nice 2nd outing by Weiland.
    Something to draw from.

     
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    William Jerez just signed for slot. Great news!

    http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2011/07/12/red-sox-sign-second-round-williams-jerez/
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : Wanna get a record of this post...before it disappears.
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    Remember softy said Jake should get more HRs by moving to LF last year?
    Maybe he'd have had 22 HRs by now had he been in left. LOL

     
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    As a DH, he could break the pre-steroid mark by Maris...
     
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    Even with the "reverse pivot"?
     
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    what are your thoughts on any of these players being back next year?wake-tek-paps-scutaro-drew-or papi.anybody else you think might be gone?
     
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    Yes. Even with that handi-cap.

    Rays beat NY.
    Should have beat them yesterday.
     
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    [QUOTE]what are your thoughts on any of these players being back next year?wake-tek-paps-scutaro-drew-or papi.anybody else you think might be gone?
    Posted by canetime[/QUOTE]

    Maybe thats better left for "A Realistic Look at 2012: Part I", but I'll bite:

    Drew ($14M): 100% bye bye

    Papi ($12.5M): 75% chance he is back. I'd say he gets $25M/2 from Theo.

    Papelbon ($10.333M): 40% chance he is back. Theo offers him $39M/3, but someone else offers more and he walks.

    Scutaro ($5M with 2012 $6M team option/$3M player option with $1.5M buyout.) 25% chance he walks. Lowrie/Navarro/Iglesias will take over.

    Wheeler ($3M with $3M option for 2012): 90% chance option not offered.

    Varitek ($2M): 50% chance VTek is back/50% chance Lavarnway. 

    Wakefield ($2M): 75% chance Wake is back, probably as the 6th starter.

    Miller ($1.3M with club option for ?): 100% chance he is back. 




     
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    I say Tek returns: 80-85%.
    If Scut comes back, I won't be.
     
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    You may be right, but I think Lavarnway is pressing Theo hard.
     
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    Well, is Lavarnway a better hitter than VMART?
    Theo let VMART walk. Different cost, obviously.
    And VMART is more advanced in all other areas, which isn't saying much.
    It may be more of a DH situation whereas he can double as a 3rd catcher.
    Or he could tank to the expectations.

    As we both know, he can hit .400, but if he can't handle a pitching staff, it more than negates the bat.
     
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    Theo still offered VMart big money. Lavarnway is nearly free.
     
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    [QUOTE]The Sox will find a way to keep Dice on their 40 man as they have way too much invested to settle for the return they've reaped to date. Theo has shown a willingness in the past to wait on pitchers coming back from injury; why would we not do the same with someone we'd be paying anyway?
    Posted by jidgef[/QUOTE]

    I think Dice-K will choose(some way) to remain in Japan as a national icon as opposed to coming back to MLB and be mediocre.
     
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    [QUOTE]Theo still offered VMart big money. Lavarnway is nearly free.
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    What was the exact offer to VMART? I was off the board at that time.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : I said last year on soxprospects that Lavarnway was older than Montero but he may end having a better career than Montero if we factor in that his numbers to date were very similar to Montero's plus Lavarnway may end up with better intangibles. Montero's age advantage was and still is a huge advantage. Very few people would still rate Lavarnway over Montero but I for one am giving Lavarnway the edge at this point. I have a feeling you feel the same way Promise. You are a true fan Promise. I love your enthusiasm and commitment! 
    Posted by Boomerangsdotcom[/QUOTE]

    I don't care what you contribute....I LOVE your new avatar!!
     

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