A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III

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    I would go all out for Reyes, but only if we can keep Ortiz. The numbers he is still putting up wont be replaced by Reyes; acquiring Reyes adds dynamics, not power numbers. That is the only blockbuster deal I would like to see done. I'm comfortable giving Reddick a chance as the starting RF'er.

    I think the sox could make a legitimate case for putting Miller into the Pen (he could get that velocity back up to 96/97), but I would rather go after a lefty releiver. The question is who, and I dont relly have a great answer. Everyone seems to either be too costly or not enough of an upgrade. Starting pitching with Lester and Buch on the horizon doesn't seem like enough of an issue to make drastic moves; we're maintaining first with this ridiculous rotation by the power of our offense, and when good pitching counts the most in the postseason, we will have enough weaponry to compliment it.

     

     
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    harness, earlier this year when Lowrie was hitting well and our catchers stunk, everyone was crying for us to get a catcher. You still don't seem convinced that Salty is "the man" who can handle the staff. I know Theo is not going to trade for a wiley old veteran catcher, but do you thi k he should... just in case VTek gets hurt and/or Salty does not improve on our W-L record when he catches?
     
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    [QUOTE]Moon and Harness...we can agree to disagree and it's ok right! To me, I wouldn't touch Franceour with a 10 foot poll. He's not our kind of guy! At this point, I'm running with Reddick the rest of this year unless he really tanks in over 100 AB. So far he has been saving this team over the last 20 games, keeping us in first just like Drew did a couple years ago. Do I think he puts up the numbers Drew did 3 years ago? No, but at least he will swing once in a while when men are on base and that's what I want from a #6 or 7 hitter. He's going to contribute good OPS and he can definitely field RF for us. His overall contributions should be acceptable for a guy making mlb minimum. I can't believe I'm saying this, as Reyes is so injury prone lately, but why the Mets would save him is beyond me. I don't believe their comment that he will stay a Met. If I were Theo I'd have to consider Reyes for SS. That looks like our weakness now and I think it will be next year as well. There is not that much available for SS in FA next winter so he might be target A anyway next winter. Reyes is a gamble but if he can say on the field....WoW! It changes a lot of things for the better on this team. Maybe the Mets just want too much for him though. I don't think they are in that great a position though in that regard.  Do the Mets have the money to retain him next year? He's a near definite type A I would think but the Mets are broke. Would they make a statement and make him a foundational player going forward? We are probably talking Carl Crawford type money to retain him next winter. Is he worth that much too us? Especially given our situation near the luxury tax limit? Would it maybe make sense to let Papi, Drew, Papelbon and maybe a few others like Scutaro go and spend some of our cash for Jose Reyes? Have Lavarnway step in for Papi, Bard for Papelbon, Reddick for Drew. I think we could make a strong case in that regard. Is he worth a Ranaudo, Kalish, Doubront type deal if we can extend him? I would think so, but we might be able to get him for less if the Mets think they have no ability to retain him financially next year. Or we could just wait and bid for him next Winter with the Yanks basically out of it. But then again, the Mets know that also. It shouldn't take a huge haul to move him off the Mets roster. He is probably gone next winter anyway. They might be bluffing. We should find out. I don't think a SP is going to be available at a good value. Maybe a LH reliever makes sense ( can't we trade Okajima to some NL team for God's sake! ). 
    Posted by Boomerangsdotcom[/QUOTE]The RS already have a long term huge $$$ contract with a mid 700's OPS player who was coming off of a statistical career year. That is perhaps a less than nice way to say that Mr. Reyes anticipates a Carl Crawford type of contract when he hits FA this year.

    The Mets expect a haul greater than the value of two picks. The RS in fairness have very few ready for MLB prospects that one could call a haul. Doubront in the industry is seen as a guy who could pitch in MLB but far from a top of the rotation guy. Only the really optimistic RS fans think what we have seen the last few weeks is Josh Reddick and Kalish's value is in the toilet because of his injuries and he projects to likely be an average ballplayer. I don't think the RS have the chips and will be hard pressed to package what would be attractive, which would be their high valued A class prospects in a bundle like the A-Gon deal was.

    That said SS is an issue. Iggy's faltering offensively at AAA level should not be a shock, the RS knew they were rushing him, he is after all only 21. There were always questions if the kid could hit at the MLB level and while this season doesn't answer those, we do know at 21 he can't hit at the MiLB level yet.

    I think the RS have to some extent painted themselves into a corner with just how aggressive they can be with long term deals for at least another 1 to 2 seasons. And honestly aside from being the best SS available, Reyes has a con to offset every pro. 

    And that is why what Carl Crawford does for his huge contract matters. The RS went all in this winter. Their flexibility will be more limited and FWIW I think Crawford's contract unless he has a radically hot final third of the season, this experience will give them pause when they look at the next $100M+, 6 year+ deal. And it won't be IMO stretching the norms of what player profile they go all in for that would get the RS to do the next one IMO, not this close to the CBT threshold and not by having to give up multiple prospects, let a highly productive DH and closer walk.

    Who knows but that is just my take.
     
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    Moon and Harness...we can agree to disagree and it's ok right!

    To me, I wouldn't touch Franceour with a 10 foot poll. He's not our kind of guy!

    I'm not thrilled about him, but he would be cheap and does well vs LHPs. He'd be just a role player here.

    At this point, I'm running with Reddick the rest of this year unless he really tanks in over 100 AB. So far he has been saving this team over the last 20 games, keeping us in first just like Drew did a couple years ago. Do I think he puts up the numbers Drew did 3 years ago? No, but at least he will swing once in a while when men are on base and that's what I want from a #6 or 7 hitter. He's going to contribute good OPS and he can definitely field RF for us. His overall contributions should be acceptable for a guy making mlb minimum.

    I am loving what Josh is doing, but you have to wonder if this is not just a hot streak. This kid has never hit like this at any level of baseball. He was at about .225 in BAbip before this year. Now, he's at an usustainable .409! I do not trust DMac as our right-handed alternative, and also think we need 2 bats ve LHPs in the OF: one for RF and one for LF (CC stinks vs lefties).

    I can't believe I'm saying this, as Reyes is so injury prone lately, but why the Mets would save him is beyond me. I don't believe their comment that he will stay a Met. If I were Theo I'd have to consider Reyes for SS. That looks like our weakness now and I think it will be next year as well. There is not that much available for SS in FA next winter so he might be target A anyway next winter. Reyes is a gamble but if he can say on the field....WoW! It changes a lot of things for the better on this team. Maybe the Mets just want too much for him though. I don't think they are in that great a position though in that regard. 

    I can see your point. This guy can just plain hit, but what I like is that he is a decent fielder too. The injury thing is too scary for a longtime deal.

    Do the Mets have the money to retain him next year? He's a near definite type A I would think but the Mets are broke. Would they make a statement and make him a foundational player going forward? We are probably talking Carl Crawford type money to retain him next winter. Is he worth that much too us? Especially given our situation near the luxury tax limit?


    Not sure about the Met's finances going forward.

    Would it maybe make sense to let Papi, Drew, Papelbon and maybe a few others like Scutaro go and spend some of our cash for Jose Reyes? Have Lavarnway step in for Papi, Bard for Papelbon, Reddick for Drew. I think we could make a strong case in that regard. Is he worth a Ranaudo, Kalish, Doubront type deal if we can extend him? I would think so, but we might be able to get him for less if the Mets think they have no ability to retain him financially next year. Or we could just wait and bid for him next Winter with the Yanks basically out of it.

    I can't see sacrificing all the youth and then sacrificing Papi and Paps just so we can afford a guy that could be hurt for 3 out of the 5 years he is signed for.

    But then again, the Mets know that also. It shouldn't take a huge haul to move him off the Mets roster. He is probably gone next winter anyway. They might be bluffing. We should find out.

    Theo loves hitting SSs, so...

    I don't think a SP is going to be available at a good value. Maybe a LH reliever makes sense ( can't we trade Okajima to some NL team for God's sake! ). 

    I'm not convinced we need a lefty specialist. Guys like Bard and others do very well ve lefties. Some righties we have even done better vs lefties.


    katz, well said. Am I sensing a slight change in your stance on CC's deal crippling us in the future? I know we had this argument earlier, and I do not want to use his poor performance thus far this year to make any definitive judgements, but $142M is what it is. It will prevent Theo from taking a gamble on future deals like Reyes or a great RF'er or another top flight starter or even keeping both Papi & Papelbon and having enough to fill other needs as they arise. 
     
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    I'm not convinced we need a lefty specialist. Guys like Bard and others do very well ve lefties. Some righties we have even done better vs lefties.

    I agree with this take. Unless there is a really solid LH out there that can be had at an acceptable trade value, I don't see the RS going crazy over this issue. Better to have a BP full of good RH pitchers with an acceptable level of effectiveness facing LH than over paying and clogging a roster spot with a guy who would be about the same from the LH side and can't do much against RH.

    Call me nuts but I like the RS BP. It iis good enough to get through the regular season and when it shortens in the post season, I think it is good enough to carry the day in championship play.

    The starting pitching situation is scary but I don't think the RS can do anything about it. I do think that they will try to pick-up a replacement for Darnell McDonald if they can and would be in heaven if that player could also play the corners in the IF.

    But that aside, John Henry probably set the right expectation last night. Don't look for the RS to do much. They have a really good team. Most of their re-enforcement is on the DL and they will hope that they return. And the prospects it takes to do anything in the way of a splash are highly coveted in the face of the A-Gon trade. Thatt's how I read what he said and it does make sense IMO.
     
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    katz, well said. Am I sensing a slight change in your stance on CC's deal crippling us in the future? I know we had this argument earlier, and I do not want to use his poor performance thus far this year to make any definitive judgements, but $142M is what it is. It will prevent Theo from taking a gamble on future deals like Reyes or a great RF'er or another top flight starter or even keeping both Papi & Papelbon and having enough to fill other needs as they arise.

    I am not sure my take has changed all that much yet. Crippling would assume the team has bad flaws that prevent it from being a serious contender and can't fix them because of the signing.

    I never thought that Crawford was going to be signed by the RS. I used to scoff last summer at those that said the RS had to go all in for him and called him fools gold. Thought that he was Ellsbury with 9 more HRs and limited to LF defensively.

    But I have expressed that understand the reasons why the RS went after an OFer with such aggression last winter. And Drew, Cameron and Mac certainly have shown that if the RS were as I believe they were, worried about the OF, they were right.

    But what I do think is that the RS are rightfully leary of having too many contracts in the $20M a year range age at the same time. I do think there is a limit to how many they can take on when they hope to always contend and will draft accordingly, meaning there will be limitations to how many homegrown, cost contained players they can add at once.

    So while I don't think it cripples them at this point, I do think it limits them. I think they are going to want to create at least two if not three years of space between A-Gon and CC before they do the next $120M plus contract, if for no other reason than to avoid becoming very old at the same time and at that point being crippled.

    I get why they did CC, once Werth was over valued and off the board, their OF was badly stocked and at the time nobody could project Ellsbury having the SLG numbers he does. Did they pay too much? IMO yes and by a ton. Limiting yes, crippling remains to be seen but some bad luck in the way of injury and or more prospects fading as Iggy has, crippling is possible.
     
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    Good reply, katz. I didn't mean to sound like you were on CC's bandwagon. I know you agreed he was overpaid, and with Drew's demise, Cam & DMac's slumps, and Kalish's injury trouble, it did turn out you were right on our higher 2011 OF needs than what I felt at the time. 
     
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    To me, I wouldn't touch Franceour with a 10 foot poll. He's not our kind of guy!

    I'm not thrilled about him, but he would be cheap and does well vs LHPs. He'd be just a role player here.

    He is the perfect fit for RF platoon.  He is well above average defensively, and he has been very good against LHP for 2 and a half years.   The cost is minimal.  It is a no brainer
     
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    Yes, tom, Francouer offers much better RF fielding than DMac and hits LHPs very well:

    Vs LHPs
    Career: .299/.344/.493/.838
    2011:    .304/.353/.620/.973
    2010:    .300/.363/.442/.805
    2009:    .344/.356/.521/.878
     
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    I didn't realize the LHP pitcher split. Maybe I'm wrong on that one! I had remembered that his career average ( .267 overall ) and OBP ( .310 ) were very low overall, especially for a corner OF. He would be a platoon guy for sure.
     
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    It would be hard to believe that Theo would fork out another $20 mil per year contract, especially for a SS. To me though, that is where we are weakest right  now and for 2012. Unless Iglesias starts raking in the 2nd half of this year we are going to need a SS next year.
     
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    Unlike harness, you don't have faith in Navarro, boom?
     
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    [QUOTE]Unlike harness, you don't have faith in Navarro, boom?
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]
     Has harness ever posted so strongly about Navarro as to imply "faith" in him? Harness, like me, comments on Navarro's talent and thinks that he will be a contender for a position next year -- if he's not traded.  "Faith" goes further than that to mean someone you can definitely count on.  As far as I know, no one has made that claim for Navarro, nor would it make any sense at this point.  

     
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    it's funny, when Salty was acquired, I cringed. When he appeared to have some defensive deficiencies, I too was disbelieving. When it was time for ST, I felt like well let's see what this kid can do.

    I'm not going to say he's brilliant, or Fisk-like, or any where close to a Varitek in his prime. But I do think he is better than adequate as a hitter and seems to be getting better defensively. He hasn't been that poor with Wakefield, which tells me he can handle different assignments. I liked when he went out and challenged Aceves, then Aceves went on a pretty outstanding streak of strong outings (I jinxed the Oriole game with my MVP thread).

    I like Salty as a hitter. He takes some big swings and can even draw a walk when the situation is needed. I don't feel like he hurts the pitching staff as a catcher. Again, I look at it like I did with VMART. There seems to be some evidence out there supporting improvement as a catcher thanks to having what amounts to a catcher coach on the bench in Varitek. I think this is the long-term, cheap project that Theo may have envisioned. Guy with talent history, but someone who was going to need tutelage to become a better backstop guy. He also seems durable, something that you need with your catchers.

    Would I rather have a Russell Martin? Maybe. But I can't say I'm upset with the kid. The team is playing .600 ball with him and Tek. Salty is going to need time to become a better catcher. I say give him that time before making any "judgment." Maybe with VMART there was a history that showed he wasn't that good at calling pitches or was strong defensively. But Salty is a lot younger.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III :  Has harness ever posted so strongly about Navarro as to imply "faith" in him? Harness, like me, comments on Navarro's talent and thinks that he will be a contender for a position next year -- if he's not traded.  "Faith" goes further than that to mean someone you can definitely count on.  As far as I know, no one has made that claim for Navarro, nor would it make any sense at this point.  
    Posted by expitch[/QUOTE]

    True, it was more like : give him a chance now, so we know by the deadline if we need to make a move at SS. It's more his lack of "faith" in Scutaro than any strong beliefs in Navarro.
     
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    [QUOTE]harness, earlier this year when Lowrie was hitting well and our catchers stunk, everyone was crying for us to get a catcher. You still don't seem convinced that Salty is "the man" who can handle the staff. I know Theo is not going to trade for a wiley old veteran catcher, but do you thi k he should... just in case VTek gets hurt and/or Salty does not improve on our W-L record when he catches?
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    I'll take that one step further, Moon.
    Right now, Salty will not lead this team to the promise land. No way. The current tandem? Yes, the way Tito deploys it, matching catcher to his own pitcher.
    I don't want to see Salty with Josh or Lester in the playoffs.

    They should have a credible defensive alternative readily available if one of the two goes down.

    As for the long run, I'd like to see this current tandem one more year. If Salty shows he can close the gap with the pitching staff, then he's worth keeping. Lavernway may give Tito leverage as a 3rd catcher/Dh type. But that would likely mean Papi's/Tek's departure, as I doubt they'd carry a 3rd receiver otherwise.

    This is where Reyes comes into the picture. I agree with Boom that passing on Paps/Scut/Papi makes sense in this regard, so long as they got the DH covered
    (Lavernway) and Reyes at SS. And it could very well come down to this.
     
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    I think we could sign Reyes and keep one of Papi or Paps, but not both. Can we get a mulligan on CC yet?
     
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    [QUOTE]I would go all out for Reyes, but only if we can keep Ortiz. The numbers he is still putting up wont be replaced by Reyes; acquiring Reyes adds dynamics, not power numbers. That is the only blockbuster deal I would like to see done. I'm comfortable giving Reddick a chance as the starting RF'er. I think the sox could make a legitimate case for putting Miller into the Pen (he could get that velocity back up to 96/97), but I would rather go after a lefty releiver. The question is who, and I dont relly have a great answer. Everyone seems to either be too costly or not enough of an upgrade. Starting pitching with Lester and Buch on the horizon doesn't seem like enough of an issue to make drastic moves; we're maintaining first with this ridiculous rotation by the power of our offense, and when good pitching counts the most in the postseason, we will have enough weaponry to compliment it.  
    Posted by thewags[/QUOTE]

    Good to see you again, Wags.
    You make an interesting point with Miller ramping it up in short stints. He is tough on LH hitters, no doubt. I can clearly see him in this capacity, with Morales backing him up, in Sept, depending on Buch's health.

    On Reyes, I think the team needs to find out what Navarro can do at SS first.
    He may be enough - to the point where the team tries to ink Papi for two more years (assuming they let Scut walk).That means Lavernway is either shuffled back and forth next year on the AAA bus or is trade bait. He makes no sense as a back-up catcher unless it's a convenient 3rd option. The guy needs to play if he's with the parent club.

    Looks like Theo is apparently content with Scut/Lowrie. Otherwise, he'd have Tito playing Navarro at SS right now.
     
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    When you guys post LHP vs RHP information etc., are these statistics from players who have been full-time players during their careers?  If so, I'd say the information is inaccurate.

    We all saw how Cameron did platooning....terrible.  Also, Ortiz himself said his timing has been off because of the games vs. national league teams and the all-star break.  It makes a difference....

    IMHO, it's pure fantasy to expect a players numbers to be as good platooning as  compared to a players numbers when playing full-time.
     
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    I'll ask again...  Does anyonw know what's going on with Lowrie?  How long is he expected to be out with this 'nerve irritation'?  I can't find information anywhere.
     
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    [QUOTE]Unlike harness, you don't have faith in Navarro, boom?
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    I'm not passionately against Navarro! I hope he makes it. I just don't think he will end up as more than a AAAA guy, a career tweener. Best case scenario to me is probably a reserve middle infielder. At least he can play a lot of positions, ala Bill Hall.

    Maybe it will take more time, as it appears to have been the case with Reddick. Navarro never put up great numbers in the minors though, IMO, at any level. I just don't think he should even be given much of a shot beyond subbing for Scutaro right now if necessary. I think our area of biggest need right now is at SS.

    I think most people know that I am a big advocate of Iglesias. If September comes soon, I'd bring him up even though he isn't hitting. He's finally healthy again and his overall potential contributions to team success are more likely to help the team than Navarro. They want him to develop but unless we have a better solution I'd bring him up in September.
     
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    AMP: I read Lowrie is now hitting off the tee.
    They take it one step at a time.
    A rehab assignment will be the positive we've been waiting for.
    You know how delicate nerve issues can be.
     
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    The probability of us signing Reyes is like 10-15% at most. I'm just saying it's possible, even though the Mets have tried hard to say they are keeping him. Beltran looks like he is up for auction though.

    It looks like they might just go with what they have got on the team and on the farm. 

    Lavarnway hit another HR, a double with a walk again tonight. On top of almost 2 HR last night ( Brandon Moss robbed him of one ). I don't think we have had anyone on the farm hit like this, at the AAA level, for so many AB in many years now.

    The guy is hitting roughly .380 in 134 AAA at bats and on pace for over 40 HR over a 600 AB season. This guy is maybe the best hitter we have produced since Pedroia, and he might be an even a better hitter overall than Pedroia when we factor in his power numbers.

    i know people are excited about him but they sure seem to have a reason to be excited about this guy. He is a tremendous hitting prospect.

    Look at Laporta, Smoak, Montero and many others. They usually have some ups and downs but this guy has been rock solid consistent and he is clearly trending up as he advances.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III : I'm not passionately against Navarro! I hope he makes it. I just don't think he will end up as more than a AAAA guy, a career tweener. Best case scenario to me is probably a reserve middle infielder. At least he can play a lot of positions, ala Bill Hall. Maybe it will take more time, as it appears to have been the case with Reddick. Navarro never put up great numbers in the minors though, IMO, at any level. I just don't think he should even be given much of a shot beyond subbing for Scutaro right now if necessary. I think our area of biggest need right now is at SS. I think most people know that I am a big advocate of Iglesias. If September comes soon, I'd bring him up even though he isn't hitting. He's finally healthy again and his overall potential contributions to team success are more likely to help the team than Navarro. They want him to develop but unless we have a better solution I'd bring him up in September.
    Posted by Boomerangsdotcom[/QUOTE]

    In six seasons in the minors, starting when he was a very raw 18, Navarro has a BA of .280, an OBP of .349, and an OPS of .781. He was hitting well at Pawtucket this year before he was injured.
    These are not "great numbers" for a first baseman or an outfielder, but they are more than respectable for a shortstop. From all reports he learns quickly and has developed pretty much according to plan.  It's way too early to write him off as a "tweener" or career utility player.
    Iglesias, OTOH, can't hit a lick, and is not showing distinct progress. Maybe he'll pick it up now that he's healthy, but, unlike Navarro, he was an automatic out before he was injured. He has a very long way to go before Theo and Terry will once again see him as the shortstop of the future, with anything close to certainty.  
    If Lowrie comes back healthy, neither Navarro nor Iglesias will see much PT this season. But both are likely to get a long look in ST. Then it will be up to the players.
     
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    So far in mlb, Navarro has played exactly 9 innings at SS in 2 years. He has more PT at 3rd, 2nd and in LF for the Sox. Admittedly it is a very small sample size but they do not appear to think of him as a serious option at SS or he would be playing some at SS for Scutaro right now.

    Also so far, he has hit well under .200 in 2010 and 2011, with horrible defensive numbers. In AAA this year he hit .258. He's just not an exciting prospect.

    Until this year Iglesias has had a decent bat. He's still only 21 and his glove is way better than Navarro's will ever be, particularly at SS. I don't want to rely on him either but if he is a September call up he can help us as a defensive replacement and it would help him develop some to get him some mlb playing time. Navarro is not our future at SS. Iglesias might well be still.
     
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