A Realistic Look At 2013: Part I

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    In response to softlaw's comment:
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    Bump

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    Glad to see you're back after promising to avoid this thread.

    BTW, there's has been a terrible impersonator here for months going by the name Trottersomethingorother...

     
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    Re: A Realistic Look At 2013: Part I

    softy can we keep the political banter on one thread please?

     
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    Any word on your acquisition of Anderson?

    ...any minute now, Jake will be traded, right?

     
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    It would make my day if Ells and Torii Hunter were starting for the Sox next year. Wouldnt that be great softy?

     
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    Re: A Realistic Look At 2013: Part I

    Hey Moon,

    My wish came true! They just signed David Ross.

    Now we'll have to see what happens next in regards to Lavarnway.

     
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    I mentioned this past summer that if Papi was extended, we'd probably trade Salty or Lava. It looks more likely now, but since Ross hits RHP'ers better than LHPs, it could be Salty who is to be traded.

     
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    or salty could be moving to first base. but that would be less than ideal.

     
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    Salty's offense is only a benefit at the catching position.

    Also, Papi will be playing 1B at NL parks this year.

    I think we will see Lava or Salty traded. Here's why:

    1) The catching position is so weak in MLB right now, that Salty or Lava's value is higher to other teams than to our own.

    2) We have so many high need areas right now, and catching is not one of them. Trading from strength is the usual way to improve high need areas.

    3) Although Salty becomes a FA after 2013, and that seems like about the time Lava might be ML ready, losing Salty to free agency with nothing to show for it is not going to help us in 2014 or beyond.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    Salty's offense is only a benefit at the catching position.

    Also, Papi will be playing 1B at NL parks this year.

    I think we will see Lava or Salty traded. Here's why:

    1) The catching position is so weak in MLB right now, that Salty or Lava's value is higher to other teams than to our own.

    2) We have so many high need areas right now, and catching is not one of them. Trading from strength is the usual way to improve high need areas.

    3) Although Salty becomes a FA after 2013, and that seems like about the time Lava might be ML ready, losing Salty to free agency with nothing to show for it is not going to help us in 2014 or beyond.

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    This was certainly a surprise move to me, and probably most Sox fans as well.

    Ben has a plan and its probably a good one, regardless of what some think of him here.

     
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    I'm feeling more and more like I'd like to see this happen & us to seriously compete in 2013 and beyond... (some rehash & some adjustments)

    Trade: Morales, Doubront/Aceves, & Bradley

    For: Justin Upton

     

    Trade: Tazawa, Lava, Cecchini, & Vinicio

    For: Brett Anderson

     

    Trade: Ellsbury & Butler

    For: Sergio Romo & Hector Sanchez (C)

     

    Trade: Salty

    For: Kendry Morales & a prospect

     

    Sign: Michael Bourn, Brandon McCarthy & Saun Marcum

     

    2013 Sox

    C  Sanchez/Ross  (Swihart)

    1B Morales/Papi (DH)  (Gomez/Shaw)

    2B Pedroia/deJesus

    3B Middlebrooks/Valencia

    SS Iglesias/Ciriaco (Bogaerts/Marrero/Lin)

    LF Sands(1B?)/Nava  (Linares/Hassan)

    CF Bourn/Sweeney(LF?) (Kalish)

    RF Upton/Brentz(LF?) (Jacobs/de la Cruz)

    SP Buch/Lester/Anderson/McCarthy/Marcum/Lackey

          (Webster/de la Rosa/Barnes/Owens)

    RP Bailey/Romo/Miller/Breslow/Mortensen/Bard/Melancon/Atchison/Hill/Carpenter

          (Beato/Rosario/Fields)

     
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    Re: A Realistic Look At 2013: Part I

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    I'm feeling more and more like I'd like to see this happen & us to seriously compete in 2013 and beyond... (some rehash & some adjustments)

    Trade: Morales, Doubront/Aceves, & Bradley

    For: Justin Upton

     

    Trade: Tazawa, Lava, Cecchini, & Vinicio

    For: Brett Anderson

     

    Trade: Ellsbury & Butler

    For: Sergio Romo & Hector Sanchez (C)

     

    Trade: Salty

    For: Kendry Morales & a prospect

     

    Sign: Michael Bourn, Brandon McCarthy & Saun Marcum

     

    2013 Sox

    C  Sanchez/Ross  (Swihart)

    1B Morales/Papi (DH)  (Gomez/Shaw)

    2B Pedroia/deJesus

    3B Middlebrooks/Valencia

    SS Iglesias/Ciriaco (Bogaerts/Marrero/Lin)

    LF Sands(1B?)/Nava  (Linares/Hassan)

    CF Bourn/Sweeney(LF?) (Kalish)

    RF Upton/Brentz(LF?) (Jacobs/de la Cruz)

    SP Buch/Lester/Anderson/McCarthy/Marcum/Lackey

          (Webster/de la Rosa/Barnes/Owens)

    RP Bailey/Romo/Miller/Breslow/Mortensen/Bard/Melancon/Atchison/Hill/Carpenter

          (Beato/Rosario/Fields)

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    I think JBJ is a better leadoff hitter and should be retained if possible...

    Not sure if SF would even consider 1 year of Ells and a BU catcher for those guys. I wouldnt if I were GM.

    Towers has said he needs a 3b, SS and pitching. Arizona doesnt need more OF'ers. If they did, I would say Brentz first or offer a Brandon jacobs. Names like Middlebrooks and Bogaerts have been mentioned. If thats the case then I dont make the move.

    I Dont think Bourn will be worth what hes asking for. Another 30yr old looking for a long term big $$$ deal.

     
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    http://www.athleticsnation.com/2012/10/30/3579066/josh-reddick-wins-the-gold-glove

    I did not realize Reddick won a Gold Glove to. Gee wiz.

     
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    Re: A Realistic Look At 2013: Part I

     

    Good morning moonslav59  :)

    Oakland needs a SS.  So instead of Tazawa, why not Iglesias and other prospects in a trade for Brett Anderson?

    If Boston can get both McCarthy and Anderson, then that will really strenghten the Red Sox rotation. 

     

     

     

     
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    Good morning moonslav59  :)

    Oakland needs a SS.  So instead of Tazawa, why not Iglesias and other prospects in a trade for Brett Anderson?

    If Boston can get both McCarthy and Anderson, then that will really strenghten the Red Sox rotation. 

     

     

     

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    apples to apples, i would take tazawa over iggy. he has great stuff, and could go into the rotation, become the closer and any role inbetween. with iggy you know your getting amazing defense but an offense that is less than ideal and COULD be  a detriment to your team. tazawa is probably more enticing

     
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    Oakland needs a SS.  So instead of Tazawa, why not Iglesias and other prospects in a trade for Brett Anderson?

    I'm not sure the A's view Iggy as an option. I think only a few GM really look for defense first.

     
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    http://www.athleticsnation.com/2012/10/30/3579066/josh-reddick-wins-the-gold-glove

    I did not realize Reddick won a Gold Glove to. Gee wiz.

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    Yup, kid got himself a GG. Always liked him and happy to see him get his chance and do well.

     
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    Maybe Iggy can win a GG for the A's next year.

     
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    Maybe Iggy can win a GG for the A's next year.

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    And maybe Anderson can win a CY for us next year.

     
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    Re: A Realistic Look At 2013: Part I

    Maybe 2014.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    Salty's offense is only a benefit at the catching position.

    Also, Papi will be playing 1B at NL parks this year.

    I think we will see Lava or Salty traded. Here's why:

    1) The catching position is so weak in MLB right now, that Salty or Lava's value is higher to other teams than to our own.

    2) We have so many high need areas right now, and catching is not one of them. Trading from strength is the usual way to improve high need areas.

    3) Although Salty becomes a FA after 2013, and that seems like about the time Lava might be ML ready, losing Salty to free agency with nothing to show for it is not going to help us in 2014 or beyond.

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    Re: A Realistic Look At 2013: Part I

    My bet on a catcher trade:

    Salty to the Cubs for Garza, plus a farmhand or two.

    Two reasons, first is that both players are free agents after 2013 (I think) so the reduced value is cancelled out. Second is Theo's man-crush on Salty. He really went out of his way to bring him to Boston, and like Rizzo who he managed to get to the Cubs, wants to keep players he has faith in.

     

    Javaukti

     

     
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    My bet on a catcher trade:

    Salty to the Cubs for Garza, plus a farmhand or two.

    Two reasons, first is that both players are free agents after 2013 (I think) so the reduced value is cancelled out. Second is Theo's man-crush on Salty. He really went out of his way to bring him to Boston, and like Rizzo who he managed to get to the Cubs, wants to keep players he has faith in.

     

    Javaukti

     

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    I wouldn't call Chris McGuiness & Roman Mendez going "out of his way", but you may be right about Theo wanting Salty in Chi-town.

    I think we'd have to give the farmhand or two with Salty to get Garza, not the other way around. It may take Salty & Aceves to get Garza.

    I'm not high on Garza or any one year starter for that matter.

     
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    In response to javaukti1's comment:
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    My bet on a catcher trade:

    Salty to the Cubs for Garza, plus a farmhand or two.

    Two reasons, first is that both players are free agents after 2013 (I think) so the reduced value is cancelled out. Second is Theo's man-crush on Salty. He really went out of his way to bring him to Boston, and like Rizzo who he managed to get to the Cubs, wants to keep players he has faith in.

     

    Javaukti

     

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    I wouldn't call Chris McGuiness & Roman Mendez going "out of his way", but you may be right about Theo wanting Salty in Chi-town.

    I think we'd have to give the farmhand or two with Salty to get Garza, not the other way around. It may take Salty & Aceves to get Garza.

    I'm not high on Garza or any one year starter for that matter.

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    Playing for a contract is always a positive thing. The work ethic increases and thedrive is greater for those interested in securing the future one final time.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    In response to javaukti1's comment:
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    My bet on a catcher trade:

    Salty to the Cubs for Garza, plus a farmhand or two.

    Two reasons, first is that both players are free agents after 2013 (I think) so the reduced value is cancelled out. Second is Theo's man-crush on Salty. He really went out of his way to bring him to Boston, and like Rizzo who he managed to get to the Cubs, wants to keep players he has faith in.

     

    Javaukti

     

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    I wouldn't call Chris McGuiness & Roman Mendez going "out of his way", but you may be right about Theo wanting Salty in Chi-town.

    I think we'd have to give the farmhand or two with Salty to get Garza, not the other way around. It may take Salty & Aceves to get Garza.

    I'm not high on Garza or any one year starter for that matter.

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    Playing for a contract is always a positive thing. The work ethic increases and thedrive is greater for those interested in securing the future one final time.

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    Not everyone has great "contract years", but assuming Garza does, when he walks after 2013, where will we be?

    I'd prefer making trades that help us in 2013 and beyond- not just one year and outs.

     

     

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