We agree more than it appears Moon.
I know, but it seems like human nature to only discuss the fine points of disagreement.
I think we need another top of the rotation starter and a middle of the order bat as well. These signings are going to keep the team competitive until a player who is more of a "sure thing" becomes a FA or one of our "kids" (Bogy?) fill the MOTO bat and one (Barnes/RDLR/Webster?) fills the TOTR spot.
$53+M is a lot to spend on carry-over or bridge players.
I believe BC checked in on every available FA and a lot of trade proposals as well. We all heard the Sox name involved with just about every FA this year. Also read where BC fielded a lot of calls wanting Bogy in a trade, which he refused. Of course we cant be positive exactly what they did, but with what we do know I think its safe to assume he checked in on all the names you mentioned and then some.
Yes, I agree that he checked on Sanchez and Hamilton, thought the price was too high, and moved on. I'm not sure he offered anything to those two, which I would have rather him done than spend on bridge players. I did not hear much on McCarthy or Marcum. I never heard of any interest shown in B Anderson, but we'll never know if he kicked the tires or not. This is one reason, I am trying not to judge Ben yet. I know we don't know everything that happened, and Ben deserves a chance to see how his moves pan out.
Oh, and I never mentioned the beer drinking being something that rubbed off on Lester and Doubie. I could care less about that, as drinking beer goes on in just about every clubhouse. That whole thing was way overblown by the media IMO.
I was referring to Lester slowing things down a lot on the mound and challenging the umps amongst other things. Lester usually worked at a much quicker pace and never challenged the umpires. Doubie started challenging them too. Lester was picking up all Becketts bad habits. Lesters attitude was even resembling Beckett last year.
Could be, but we don't know if it was Beckett who caused the changes. Besides, I don't see Beckett complaining about pitches as much as Lester has recently.
Buch and lester are very capable of 18 wins each. at 28 and 29 they are in their early prime and hardly in decline like some think. Farrell is going to have a very positive impact on this pitching staff. This year is going to be a big one for Lester in deciding whether they pick up the option, extend him, or allow him to hit FA.
There certainly is potential in this staff. The upside is that both Lester and Buch can both pitch like aces or top 2nd slot starters. However, there are many teams that can say that. Dempster could do fine, and Doubront could improve on his 1.40+ WHIP. Lackey could surprise as well.
My point has been that for several years now, most of us have seen this potential and wished and hoped it would all come together at the same time, or at least enough of it to bring us another ring. To me, we were wishing against the odds all these years, and I am tired of trying to convince myself that the next year will be any different, when no serious move has been made to address the starting rotation since the Lackey signing. I think that failed signing, along with CC's, has caused a bit of over-cautiousness.
As I have said, I thought this was a weak FA class, and my top plan was not to sign Greinke, Sanchez or Hamilton, but I did expect us to try and make some signings that would really help us in 2014, 2015 and maybe beyond. I'd have even preferred not signing some of these guys or anyone else in order to save the money for a bigger push next year, when the market looks to be a little better, and some of our prospects may be stepping up by then. I also think we have a deep farm, which is a nice thing, but we could use a few more top prospects.
I know you disagree with the philosophy to trade off some of our chances for 2013 to improve 2014, but to me that would have been the best strategy. Getting one big named player who is under team control for 3 or more years would have kept the fans happy, and getting some prospects via trades would have added excitement as well.
We could have gotten some nice prospects for Ellsbury, Salty, Breslow, and maybe even Myers for Lester, and more prospects for Miller, Bailey and other who will be gone by 2015. I know that seems radical, but I really think the fans would have understood. Afterall, I think most liked the Dodger trade and that was more radical than my plan. We didn't need to do all of what I suggested, but we really didn't do anything resembling any of this. Not one. Had we made moves to get more prospects and then signed teh bridge players we did and maybe aqa couple more, then I'd see some positive direction, but instead we have played it down the middle: not improving enough to win it all this year, and not improving at all for the future. We stayed the same, unless we want to count losing Sands and Pimental as a slight decline in prospects.
Not trading prospects does not improve our future: it just kept it the same. With all the money spent, and players that will be walking next year garnering us nothing but maybe one draft pick (for Ells), IMO, we missed the boats this winter.