In response to moonslav59's comment:
I think explaining picking up Ellsbury to their fan base would be the last of their worries, in fact, no explanation would be needed once they see we are paying half his deal. Also, KC would love the draft pick.
So you really think that KC would deal Myers for a pitcher which even the RS are worried might be washed up, a yr of Ellsbury before leaving for FA to get a draft pick that could be late 1st round [don't see Ellsbury signing w/ terrible team] that might be mlb ready in 3-4 yrs and probably no where near as highly rated as Myers. If KC is willing to listen to such a deal I have some water front property they might be interested in.
BTW, Shields is only under team control for 2 years, and that is the main reason this deal was rated as one of the worst for KC.
They were looking for starting pitchers how many teams could offer 2 proven mlb starters? Not the RS. They were obviously tired of waiting for their young arms to develope following so many setbacks. Trust me I would like to have Myers on my team the upside is huge. But they did get 2 mlb proven starters in return, not easy to find. If Shields is gone in 2 yrs and Davis doesn't become a solid starter this is the type of trade that GM's lose their jobs over. Hey even the RS were able to trade Jeff Bagwell for a reliever, so we know it happens. But like I said as RS fan how can we get so worked up over the fact we didn't get Myers when we couldn't give them what the Royals wanted? We didn't match up - it happens.
Wishful thinking is not always "smart play". If he does not regain his form, his trade value goes way down. Of course the opposite is true as well, but it's a gamble either way. My biggest concern is lester's loss of velocity. There was a great article on fangraphs about how it is virtually unheard of for a pitcher to regain his lost velocity, unless it was a result of an injury.
So you don't think other teams including the Royals don't know this as well. So "smart play" would to deal Lester when his value is as low as it has ever been? If Lester had a great season last year then maybe you have a chance for a prospect like Myers. But with his current value probably had no chance, so I don't see the need to complain on not getting Myers because we never really had a shot. The Rays had what it took RS did not, like I said earlier in another yr story might be different depending on what the young guns do this year.
I meant build around them by gaining more prospects or younger players with more years of team control, along with maybe one FA that will be in his prime for 2014 & 2015 & perhaps beyond. Surely, this was not impossible to make happen.
Its unfortunate that the year the RS had to spend $, there really wasn't much worth spending it on. Tough to be trading guys like Lester and others for young talent when they're all coming off miserable yrs. If Lester had pitched well last yr and Shields had pitched terribly then maybe Myers could be wearing a RS uniform, but guess how many RS fans would be screaming that RS traded their best pitcher?
We did not "have to spend money", or at least that much money and in that way.
Not sure I get your point RS did spend 50+ mil this offseason. Could it have been better spent than Naps/Victorino/Dempster/Gomes/Ross/Drew of course would have loved to see Tulowitzki and M.Cain would have been real nice or even Hammels and McCutchen and still would have had some change left for a Ross or others.Those would be signings I would be escatic over.
Maybe not tip top prospect talent (although we'll have to agree to disagree on Myers), but maybe go all out for Brett Anderson, or come up with a better offer to pry Trevor Bauer from AZ. (AJ Cole? I'm sure there are others I can't think of right now.)
I'm a little weary on Bauer he wore out his welcome in AZ awfully quickly. As for Brett Anderson would love to see him in RS uniform, but w/ A's coming off winning the AL West they are no longer looking to unload & rebuild, if anything they've been adding to a team they think has a chance to be a factor this year. Personally I think they take a step back, if they do then RS might be able to get Anderson next offseason. A's are always one yr away from rebuilding again.
I agree that Anderson was highly unlikely or would have taken a huge overpay, but the cost to get a guy like Bauer was not much at all.
Bauer put up some nice numbers in...
AA 8-2 3.18 11.9k/9
AAA 5-1 2.85 10.6K/9
(plus 17Ks in 9 innings of A+ ball)
Yes, the sample size is small, but this kid has huge upside.
I could be wrong but see Bauer as an arm injury waiting to happen. Every pitching coach in baseball must cringe every time he takes those 2 crow steps and fires ball as hard as he can at catcher from a couple of steps in front of the mound, sure the catchers love him too, just ask Miguel Montero. Leaving for Florida tomorrow will get to see RS next week, hope I like what I see from team, hopefully no fat cats. Will continue after I get back. Have a good week, keep up the solid RS talk! Like the good banter about baseball and RS in particular.