A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    we were 26 out last year!  I just looked up the standings and seeing that and the Yanks in 1st made it seem like it was today's news! Unbelievable.

     
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    Lava does need to be at first..... no reason to sign broken down has beens like Napoli instead of giving Lava  shot out there.

     
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    was lava invited to camp? i'm assuming so but i have literally heard NOTHING about him.




    Yeah, but he hasnt done anything news worthy..Been pretty quiet.

     
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    6 ABs is a pretty tiny sample size to generate much excitement.

     
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    The media (e.g. ESPN, CNN, FOX) is not picking the Red Sox to do well this year which is fine with me.  So I hope the team can relax, have fun out there, and play hard.  

    There was too much drama in the Red Sox clubhouse in 2012 (similar to the LA Lakers this year).  

    This is why I like a team like the Oakland A's--a group of guys who support each other, have fun, and go out and win.  I heard on the MLB chanel that Josh Reddick and his teammates met up for dinner and watched WWE, Monday Night RAW.  

    Do the Red Sox players meet up and socialize too?  I hope they do because I believe it is important to help build team unity.

     
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    The media (e.g. ESPN, CNN, FOX) is not picking the Red Sox to do well this year which is fine with me.  So I hope the team can relax, have fun out there, and play hard.  

    There was too much drama in the Red Sox clubhouse in 2012 (similar to the LA Lakers this year).  

    This is why I like a team like the Oakland A's--a group of guys who support each other, have fun, and go out and win.  I heard on the MLB chanel that Josh Reddick and his teammates met up for dinner and watched WWE, Monday Night RAW.  

    Do the Red Sox players meet up and socialize too?  I hope they do because I believe it is important to help build team unity.



    Maybe they can meet up and watch reruns of "Little House on the Prairie".

    I don't want them to start piledriving each other in the clubhouse!

     

    LOL

     
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    Lava does need to be at first..... no reason to sign broken down has beens like Napoli instead of giving Lava  shot out there.



    Napoli's best season was 2011...yeah, that was eons ago...I guess Ellsbury is a broken down has been too.

    Try and be reasonable and wait till Napoli plays some actual games for us.

     
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    6 ABs is a pretty tiny sample size to generate much excitement.




    Tell that to JBJ ;)

     
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    Lava does need to be at first..... no reason to sign broken down has beens like Napoli instead of giving Lava  shot out there.

     



    Napoli's best season was 2011...yeah, that was eons ago...I guess Ellsbury is a broken down has been too.

     

    Try and be reasonable and wait till Napoli plays some actual games for us.




    don't forget Shanes 2011 season.... what a bum!

     
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    don't forget Shanes 2011 season.... what a bum!

    Got me thinking about career (300+ PA season) bests of of new players...

                        BA  HR  RBI  OBP  SLG  (Misc)

    Victorino:  .293  18  69  .358/.491  (16 3Bs/ 39 SBs)

    Napoli:      .320 30  75   .414/.631

    Drew:      .291  21  67   .352/.502  (45 2B+3B)

    Gomes:   .282  20  86  .377/.541

    Ross:      .255  21  52  .353/.579  (in 296 PAs in 2009)

     

     
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    don't forget Shanes 2011 season.... what a bum!

    Got me thinking about career (300+ PA season) bests of of new players...

                        BA  HR  RBI  OBP  SLG  (Misc)

    Victorino:  .293  18  69  .358/.491  (16 3Bs/ 39 SBs)

    Napoli:      .320 30  75   .414/.631

    Drew:      .291  21  67   .352/.502  (45 2B+3B)

    Gomes:   .282  20  86  .377/.541

    Ross:      .255  21  52  .353/.579  (in 296 PAs in 2009)

     




    not bad. now, i'm not expecting them to match or surpass their career best this year but for most of these guys, their best seasons were not too long ago..  And i know they are older now but lots of players have pretty darn good years at older ages.. (although i don't think 30-32 is old)

     
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    don't forget Shanes 2011 season.... what a bum!

    Got me thinking about career (300+ PA season) bests of of new players...

                        BA  HR  RBI  OBP  SLG  (Misc)

    Victorino:  .293  18  69  .358/.491  (16 3Bs/ 39 SBs)

    Napoli:      .320 30  75   .414/.631

    Drew:      .291  21  67   .352/.502  (45 2B+3B)

    Gomes:   .282  20  86  .377/.541

    Ross:      .255  21  52  .353/.579  (in 296 PAs in 2009)

     

     




    not bad. now, i'm not expecting them to match or surpass their career best this year but for most of these guys, their best seasons were not too long ago..  And i know they are older now but lots of players have pretty darn good years at older ages.. (although i don't think 30-32 is old)

     



    If I posted their worst numbers, we might faint.

     
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    don't forget Shanes 2011 season.... what a bum!

    Got me thinking about career (300+ PA season) bests of of new players...

                        BA  HR  RBI  OBP  SLG  (Misc)

    Victorino:  .293  18  69  .358/.491  (16 3Bs/ 39 SBs)

    Napoli:      .320 30  75   .414/.631

    Drew:      .291  21  67   .352/.502  (45 2B+3B)

    Gomes:   .282  20  86  .377/.541

    Ross:      .255  21  52  .353/.579  (in 296 PAs in 2009)

     

     




    not bad. now, i'm not expecting them to match or surpass their career best this year but for most of these guys, their best seasons were not too long ago..  And i know they are older now but lots of players have pretty darn good years at older ages.. (although i don't think 30-32 is old)

     

     



    If I posted their worst numbers, we might faint.

     




    hahahahaha

     
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    Their career averages are less scary.

     
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    Their career averages are less scary.

     



    What about their "median averages"?

     

     
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    Their 162 game averages based on career numbers...

    (About $81M for 9 combined years of service)

    .275  14  62

    .259  33  85

    .265  15  70

    .244  25  76

    .238  21  61

     

     

     

     
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    Not bad numbers, but also not the types of numbers that will lead a 69 win team, that was actually worse after the big trade, to a title in 1 year.

     
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    Not bad numbers, but also not the types of numbers that will lead a 69 win team, that was actually worse after the big trade, to a title in 1 year.



    Partially agree.  Partially because I think this everyday lineup, if it stays reasonably healthy, is 'good enough' to go deep in the playoffs.  But only if the starting pitching is vastly improved, and that's where things get very shaky.

     
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    Not bad numbers, but also not the types of numbers that will lead a 69 win team, that was actually worse after the big trade, to a title in 1 year.

     



    Partially agree.  Partially because I think this everyday lineup, if it stays reasonably healthy, is 'good enough' to go deep in the playoffs.  But only if the starting pitching is vastly improved, and that's where things get very shaky.

     



    I agree. I think our offense should be better, and except for maybe papi, naps and drew I don't see health being something that should be expected.

    Our SPs have the potential to be playoff caliber, but to me, that involves too many things all going right at the same time. I'm hoping for the best.

    Other teams improving also scares me, and except for the Yanks, Rangers and O's, I think many teams that were ahead of us last year got even better, but even some of those teams were so much better than us last year that they might still end up better this year as well.

    In the AL, I see only the Twins as being clearly worse than us. The Indians and KC both got better, but can easily be worse than us. The Mariners CWS, and O's should be close. That's 6 teams that look as good or worse than us. That leaves 8 teams that I rate better than us, and there are only 5 slots to make the playoffs. That's a tough hill to climb.

     
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    Not bad numbers, but also not the types of numbers that will lead a 69 win team, that was actually worse after the big trade, to a title in 1 year.

     



    Partially agree.  Partially because I think this everyday lineup, if it stays reasonably healthy, is 'good enough' to go deep in the playoffs.  But only if the starting pitching is vastly improved, and that's where things get very shaky.

     

     



    I agree. I think our offense should be better, and except for maybe papi, naps and drew I don't see health being something that should be expected.

     

    Our SPs have the potential to be playoff caliber, but to me, that involves too many things all going right at the same time. I'm hoping for the best.

    Other teams improving also scares me, and except for the Yanks, Rangers and O's, I think many teams that were ahead of us last year got even better, but even some of those teams were so much better than us last year that they might still end up better this year as well.

    In the AL, I see only the Twins as being clearly worse than us. The Indians and KC both got better, but can easily be worse than us. The Mariners CWS, and O's should be close. That's 6 teams that look as good or worse than us. That leaves 8 teams that I rate better than us, and there are only 5 slots to make the playoffs. That's a tough hill to climb.



    its why we play the games moony

     
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    Not bad numbers, but also not the types of numbers that will lead a 69 win team, that was actually worse after the big trade, to a title in 1 year.

     



    Partially agree.  Partially because I think this everyday lineup, if it stays reasonably healthy, is 'good enough' to go deep in the playoffs.  But only if the starting pitching is vastly improved, and that's where things get very shaky.

     

     



    I agree. I think our offense should be better, and except for maybe papi, naps and drew I don't see health being something that should be expected.

     

    Our SPs have the potential to be playoff caliber, but to me, that involves too many things all going right at the same time. I'm hoping for the best.

    Other teams improving also scares me, and except for the Yanks, Rangers and O's, I think many teams that were ahead of us last year got even better, but even some of those teams were so much better than us last year that they might still end up better this year as well.

    In the AL, I see only the Twins as being clearly worse than us. The Indians and KC both got better, but can easily be worse than us. The Mariners CWS, and O's should be close. That's 6 teams that look as good or worse than us. That leaves 8 teams that I rate better than us, and there are only 5 slots to make the playoffs. That's a tough hill to climb.

     



    its why we play the games moony

     



    ...and that's why I love to watch every pitch of evry game, every year.  

    Sometimes twice.

     
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    Not bad numbers, but also not the types of numbers that will lead a 69 win team, that was actually worse after the big trade, to a title in 1 year.

     



    Partially agree.  Partially because I think this everyday lineup, if it stays reasonably healthy, is 'good enough' to go deep in the playoffs.  But only if the starting pitching is vastly improved, and that's where things get very shaky.

     

     



    I agree. I think our offense should be better, and except for maybe papi, naps and drew I don't see health being something that should be expected.

     

    Our SPs have the potential to be playoff caliber, but to me, that involves too many things all going right at the same time. I'm hoping for the best.

    Other teams improving also scares me, and except for the Yanks, Rangers and O's, I think many teams that were ahead of us last year got even better, but even some of those teams were so much better than us last year that they might still end up better this year as well.

    In the AL, I see only the Twins as being clearly worse than us. The Indians and KC both got better, but can easily be worse than us. The Mariners CWS, and O's should be close. That's 6 teams that look as good or worse than us. That leaves 8 teams that I rate better than us, and there are only 5 slots to make the playoffs. That's a tough hill to climb.

     



    its why we play the games moony

     

     



    ...and that's why I love to watch every pitch of evry game, every year.  

     

    Sometimes twice.



    well good. we can play the SS game again :)

    just like we did last year with Aviles we can judge every ball that gets past Drew and speculate whether Iggy could have gotten to it or not.

     
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    ...and that's why I love to watch every pitch of evry game, every year.  

     

    Sometimes twice.

     



    well good. we can play the SS game again :)

     

    just like we did last year with Aviles we can judge every ball that gets past Drew and speculate whether Iggy could have gotten to it or not.

     

    I hope I am proven as wrong about Drew as I was about Aviles and range.

    (BTW, I was wrong about Scutaro too. I thought he was better than he turned out to be here in Boston.)

     
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    ...and that's why I love to watch every pitch of evry game, every year.  

     

    Sometimes twice.

     



    well good. we can play the SS game again :)

     

    just like we did last year with Aviles we can judge every ball that gets past Drew and speculate whether Iggy could have gotten to it or not.

     

    I hope I am proven as wrong about Drew as I was about Aviles and range.

    (BTW, I was wrong about Scutaro too. I thought he was better than he turned out to be here in Boston.)



    Drew has been up and down as a fielder, there was a season or 2 where he was above average and a season or 2 where he was below average.. The ankle injury isn;t going to help him BUT he seems to be fully healed from it so i think it should be a non-issue at this point. We will find out soon enough though.

     
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    ...and that's why I love to watch every pitch of evry game, every year.  

     

    Sometimes twice.

     



    well good. we can play the SS game again :)

     

    just like we did last year with Aviles we can judge every ball that gets past Drew and speculate whether Iggy could have gotten to it or not.

     

    I hope I am proven as wrong about Drew as I was about Aviles and range.

    (BTW, I was wrong about Scutaro too. I thought he was better than he turned out to be here in Boston.)

     



    Drew has been up and down as a fielder, there was a season or 2 where he was above average and a season or 2 where he was below average.. The ankle injury isn;t going to help him BUT he seems to be fully healed from it so i think it should be a non-issue at this point. We will find out soon enough though.

     



    His overall career numbers show a really bad range. I doubt he gets any better with a pin in his ankle in that area of defense, which happens to be a big chunk of what SS D is all about.

     
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